Steve Jobs and Bill Gates meet

[Kins123]

D5 had Bill Gates and Steve Jobs on stage together talking about Microsoft and Apple. You can see the highlights here:

http://d5.allthingsd.com/20070531/video-steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-highlight-reel/

Or you can see the whole lot by selecting the links underneath the video.

Good to see them getting on together.

 

[trawler69]

If only the respective users could all get along like that

 

[trawler69]

It is actually an interesting thought to combine the best of the 3 main OS's and the 2 technologies and come up with something great. First thoughts are:

The style of the mac
The expandability and affordability of the PC
The efficient coding of a good Linux

now comes the difficult bit cause I want the ease of use and stability of OS X the applications for the PC and the efficient coding and open source of Linux. This means I haven't said enough good PC things to survive. Hasn't political correctness gone mad.

If any one takes that seriously they have had a sense of humour bypass!

 

[mike_n_herrin]

Bill said that everything we see in scifi short of transporters he thinks will be possible in the next...i think he said decade. i wish he would have said what he thought those things might be more clearly.

 

[_AJ_]

It is actually an interesting thought to combine the best of the 3 main OS's and the 2 technologies and come up with something great. First thoughts are:

The style of the mac
The expandability and affordability of the PC
The efficient coding of a good Linux

now comes the difficult bit cause I want the ease of use and stability of OS X the applications for the PC and the efficient coding and open source of Linux. This means I haven't said enough good PC things to survive. Hasn't political correctness gone mad.

If any one takes that seriously they have had a sense of humour bypass!

Screw being PC

but from what you said you have to lose some stability when you go from a closed to open ecosystem and also alot of the many PC apps are buggy and crash i am sure there are crap programs on mac to but there are less overall programs

as i wrote crash i was thinking firefox might but there was just an update yesterday to 2.4 so hopefully it is fixed now

as for gates and jobs why dont they just get a room

 

[_AJ_]

Gates has been famously bad when it comes to predicting the future. Remember SPOT technology? In 2002, Gates told us the future of computing was refrigerator magnets. Microsoft refrigerator magnets were supposed to download information wirelessly and display sports scores and traffic information on our refrigerators, for our consumption with our morning coffee! He was quite enamored with that idea (and a lot of other hokey stuff!) for quite a long time.

Then there was that Microsoft alarm clock, which was supposed to adjust the wakeup times to your personal schedule and the traffic conditions that morning......

Then there was all that stuff about the Internet being a fad......



Actually, trawler didn't say that. Open source software has traditionally been very much more stable than closed source.

open hardware not software

and there are a few refrigerators on the market with tv and internet functions maybe just tv at the moment

i must say people seem to be getting things confused though because i am pretty sure he meant it would be a part of everything being connected and not that we would instead of going to work stand in front of the fridge and compose our work

well at least we wouldn't have to go far for a snack

 

[_AJ_]

They may be smiling, but look at the body language - these guys aren't real comfortable with each other!

Which fits with this breaking news. Steve Jobs today told the Wall Street Journal that iTunes on Windows is "Like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell."

The well-known "Fake Steve Jobs" blogger has already picked up on the Jobs statement to the WSJ, blogging that "his" analogy wasn't perfect. "You can't get out of hell," he said, "You can get out of Windows."

http://www.computerworld.com/action...Name=windows&articleId=9022178&taxonomyId=125

Stevie J does realise that alot of PC users Hate iTunes doesn't he ill show you why for me in a second


i clicked itunes when i say it and wmp when i say that to

its not as bad as when you first start it up but also sometimes itunes changes to all black and there is nothing but a black window and the mini display pic on the task bar dosent work unless the window is open

 

[_AJ_]

Here is what Jobs told the WSJ:

"We've got cards and letters from lots of people that say iTunes is their favorite app on Windows," Jobs said, then shrugged, paused and smiled. "It's like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell," he said.


{This is just an aside, but developers say getting apps to work properly under Vista is much, much harder than under any other OS. They would say that, of course - it is easier to blame Microsoft for your troubles than yourself. But it is true that iTunes on a Mac is a very different (and vastly more stable) program than it is on Vista. And it is interesting that even Microsoft seems to have trouble getting things to work on Vista. It took them five months and four tries just to get a patch for the famous animated cursor vulnerability which was stable!}

it was stable the first time on my pc and a great deal of them like i said above it is much easier to have stability on a closed hardware ecosystem there are millions of pc's out there and most of them are different there would be thousands of configurations on the market now compared to a hand full of different Mac configurations

 

[lonestar]

I really enjoyed the show. Both guys where great, just like old friends meeting.

I mean come on, Apple really needs MS. Without Office, many news switchers will keep their windows boxes. And Jobs shouldn't forget that Gates saved Apples arse 10 years ago.

Both, Apple and MS are important companies and I really would like Apple to stop bashing MS to delaying Vista and get their Leopard out. Apple should stop complaining about MS copying features from Tiger and just bring a better OS.