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The death of a home

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There is a house about a mile from mine, on my route to work. It is noticeable for two reasons. It is at a tee intersection where accidents have repeatedly happen. Across from the tee was a big highway sign with a double-ended arrow to warn drivers at night from the cross street at night, so they know the road is ending. That sign was plowed down over and over and over, usually in daytime accidents. The cause is the street not ending is a main road, even though only two lanes, with no shoulder, and drivers regularly speed along it, and apparently cars entering the road at the tee interrupt the flow without enough time to clear the near lane, or similar, and the speeding car goes careening off into the ditch, taking the sign with it.

This scenario has happened at least 10 to 20 times in just the last couple of years. The county has replaced the sign about 10 times, and everyone thought a stop light was imminent, but the solution was just to remove the sign permanently since it didn't stop accidents. Roll, TIDE!!!

A casualty of the traffic problem is the house on that corner. It had a driveway onto the main road, the one that doesn't stop, and a ditch with a culvert under the drive was flanked by modest brickwork to accent the drive. As cars coming down the hill swerved to avoid T-boning cars pulling into the right of way, they often landed on the poor man's brickwork. It was destroyed multiple times, and rebuilt. One of the reasons is that there is no shoulder on the roads here in Huntsville. No shoulders, no curbs, no sidewalks, and no bike lanes. That is true for the vast majority of the incorporated areas of Huntsville and Madison. It was all done on the cheap. Only the oldest downtown areas or the new housing developments have them.

The house was a nice house forty years ago when it was built. It was about 3,000 square feet, including a large walk-out basement. It had an in-ground swimming pool with a large brick retaining wall with a wrought iron fence atop. There was a tennis court, also fenced. It sat on a 4-acre tract. The only resident appeared to be an old man, seen on a riding mower at times. It was not hard to imagine a family spent many hours in the pool and on the court.

When it was listed for sale this winter, it seemed likely the man had died, or gotten past being able to live alone. The siting of the house is interesting because it backs up to a large estate that was obviously one of the legacy farms in the area. Behind him is the large plantation house built in the 50's probably. The couple living there likely built it, and were in their 80's when I met them by chance in a doctor's waiting room a couple of years ago. So, the house on the corner was probably originally built for one of the scions, but maybe changed occupants after they left. Dunno.

As the listing lingered, one wondered who would buy four acres on a corner with constant accidents, with it rapidly going commercial, but with it across from a large farm field and on another border, a large pasture. It was hard to imagine a family with children being comfortable near the heavy traffic and notorious accidents. The house was large, but dated, and a simply ranch design, not a modern McMansion with a pretentious facade and high ceilings and the trappings of the bourgeoisie.

Then, two weeks ago, I noticed a couple of trucks parked beside the basement and some kind of renovation going on. I figured someone had bought it and was flipping it, or fixing it up before moving in.

A few days later, I saw bricks being torn off. Wasn't sure if if they were going to side it, or were fixing foundation problems.

Last week, I could see all the way through the basement. They had torn out all interior walls there. I figured someone was making it a modern open design and were putting in steel beams so they could remove posts.

Nope.

They're moving the house. It has now been moved over and is being prepared to relocate. The main floor is probably 2,000 sq. ft.

The county is widening the main road, just from there up to the highway a mile above, due to a new Costco putting in and turning lanes. The actual need is to widen the main road for a nother two miles in the other direction, but the county being cheap, they will not. It's going to be years and years of congestion here, with the county refusing to raise taxes and the state capping tax rates via the Alabama Constitution. It's really a redneck ghetto of sorts.

But, the house is dying a premature death, if a necessary one. At least it's being moved instead of razed.

The intersection. The pic is an older Google pic. The yellow arrow sign was replaced with much larger one until they stopped replacing it at all. There is none there now.

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The approach from the south. It all looks misleadingly rural. There are housing divsions everywhere, and very large multifamily developments. The road is never empty, and it is fully suburban, despite the fields in the view.

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The house listed, and the culvert again destroyed.

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The house.

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The plantation house down the road another half mile.

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Oh, and if this is all too boring, don't read it.
 

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Always preferable to move a house than raze it.
 
the worst thing one can do with any empty structure is to just let it sit. Without inhabitants, a structure deteriorates extremely quickly.
 
If something one can learn (that didn't already know) about American "homes" by watching the Property Brothers adventures, is that American "homes" are not made to last... they are just there to derive a profit in the [very] short term, to serve a purpose for some time (hopefully) and, with a little bit of luck, if there is no asbestos, nuclear, whatever sort of turdy waste, biodegradate.

A piece of nothing in the middle of Big Nowhere for nobodies: that's the American home for you.
 
Always preferable to move a house than raze it.
That depends on what one calls a house.

Queen Monster houses shouldn't exist even as a nightmare.

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And don't retort with the Catalan Modernist style... it is the same kind of awful, without the woody American artlessness.
 
At least there’s not a house direct on top of the T. There’s one here that has been hit buy cars 3 times. Once with a car landing on the roof of the garage. These poor people can’t even give the house away.

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If something one can learn (that didn't already know) about American "homes" by watching the Property Brothers adventures, is that American "homes" are not made to last... they are just there to derive a profit in the [very] short term, to serve a purpose for some time (hopefully) and, with a little bit of luck, if there is no asbestos, nuclear, whatever sort of turdy waste, biodegradate.

A piece of nothing in the middle of Big Nowhere for nobodies: that's the American home for you.
Aren’t the Property Brothers Canadians ?
 
There is a house about a mile from mine, on my route to work. It is noticeable for two reasons. It is at a tee intersection where accidents have repeatedly happen. Across from the tee was a big highway sign with a double-ended arrow to warn drivers at night from the cross street at night, so they know the road is ending. That sign was plowed down over and over and over, usually in daytime accidents. The cause is the street not ending is a main road, even though only two lanes, with no shoulder, and drivers regularly speed along it, and apparently cars entering the road at the tee interrupt the flow without enough time to clear the near lane, or similar, and the speeding car goes careening off into the ditch, taking the sign with it.

This scenario has happened at least 10 to 20 times in just the last couple of years. The county has replaced the sign about 10 times, and everyone thought a stop light was imminent, but the solution was just to remove the sign permanently since it didn't stop accidents. Roll, TIDE!!!

A casualty of the traffic problem is the house on that corner. It had a driveway onto the main road, the one that doesn't stop, and a ditch with a culvert under the drive was flanked by modest brickwork to accent the drive. As cars coming down the hill swerved to avoid T-boning cars pulling into the right of way, they often landed on the poor man's brickwork. It was destroyed multiple times, and rebuilt. One of the reasons is that there is no shoulder on the roads here in Huntsville. No shoulders, no curbs, no sidewalks, and no bike lanes. That is true for the vast majority of the incorporated areas of Huntsville and Madison. It was all done on the cheap. Only the oldest downtown areas or the new housing developments have them.

The house was a nice house forty years ago when it was built. It was about 3,000 square feet, including a large walk-out basement. It had an in-ground swimming pool with a large brick retaining wall with a wrought iron fence atop. There was a tennis court, also fenced. It sat on a 4-acre tract. The only resident appeared to be an old man, seen on a riding mower at times. It was not hard to imagine a family spent many hours in the pool and on the court.

When it was listed for sale this winter, it seemed likely the man had died, or gotten past being able to live alone. The siting of the house is interesting because it backs up to a large estate that was obviously one of the legacy farms in the area. Behind him is the large plantation house built in the 50's probably. The couple living there likely built it, and were in their 80's when I met them by chance in a doctor's waiting room a couple of years ago. So, the house on the corner was probably originally built for one of the scions, but maybe changed occupants after they left. Dunno.

As the listing lingered, one wondered who would buy four acres on a corner with constant accidents, with it rapidly going commercial, but with it across from a large farm field and on another border, a large pasture. It was hard to imagine a family with children being comfortable near the heavy traffic and notorious accidents. The house was large, but dated, and a simply ranch design, not a modern McMansion with a pretentious facade and high ceilings and the trappings of the bourgeoisie.

Then, two weeks ago, I noticed a couple of trucks parked beside the basement and some kind of renovation going on. I figured someone had bought it and was flipping it, or fixing it up before moving in.

A few days later, I saw bricks being torn off. Wasn't sure if if they were going to side it, or were fixing foundation problems.

Last week, I could see all the way through the basement. They had torn out all interior walls there. I figured someone was making it a modern open design and were putting in steel beams so they could remove posts.

Nope.

They're moving the house. It has now been moved over and is being prepared to relocate. The main floor is probably 2,000 sq. ft.

The county is widening the main road, just from there up to the highway a mile above, due to a new Costco putting in and turning lanes. The actual need is to widen the main road for a nother two miles in the other direction, but the county being cheap, they will not. It's going to be years and years of congestion here, with the county refusing to raise taxes and the state capping tax rates via the Alabama Constitution. It's really a redneck ghetto of sorts.

But, the house is dying a premature death, if a necessary one. At least it's being moved instead of razed.

The intersection. The pic is an older Google pic. The yellow arrow sign was replaced with much larger one until they stopped replacing it at all. There is none there now.

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The approach from the south. It all looks misleadingly rural. There are housing divsions everywhere, and very large multifamily developments. The road is never empty, and it is fully suburban, despite the fields in the view.

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The house listed, and the culvert again destroyed.

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The house.

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The plantation house down the road another half mile.

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Oh, and if this is all too boring, don't read it.
It looks like some sort of Gary Cooper Howard Roark version of The Twelve Oaks.
 
At least there’s not a house direct on top of the T. There’s one here that has been hit buy cars 3 times. Once with a car landing on the roof of the garage. These poor people can’t even give the house away.

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That's the biodegradation I meant: like detroitification, but with no CBD, downtown concrete area.

In only a couple of centuries, America could look like...

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and, obviously, still speak God's language.
 
I snapped a pic on the way to work this morning and another on the way home.

Know everyone is on pins and needles. :rotflmao:

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/\ That looks like a prefab/modular job designed to be brought in on wheels, and now leaving, or being relocated on the same property, the same way it arrived - on wheels.

Easy peasy.:)
 
And then people have the nerve of talking of those in mobile homes as "trailer trash".
 
/\ That looks like a prefab/modular job designed to be brought in on wheels, and now leaving, or being relocated on the same property, the same way it arrived - on wheels.

Easy peasy.:)
Amost any wood framed house can be stripped back and relatively easily moved when it was not built on a concrete slab in the first place, as it already has a full set of beams and joists underneath it to support it on its piers.

It looks like it, only because you are not seeing it through the process. No one bought a modular built home 40 years ago as a wealthy middle class person in a relatively metropolitan location (5-10 minutes' drive to Huntsville).

This house was sited on a fully finished concrete-block basement foundation, with a double-car garage, two driveways, an in-ground pool, a teenis court with a 20-foot fence enclosure, and a bricked garden shed/shop.

This was a formulaic looking main story ranch design, which is why you think it looks like a mobile home or modular home. It wasn't. It was fully bricked as well as the surround for the pool area.

It's only that stripping it all away to the frame, and then attaching steel girders underneath for transpor makes it look like one. It's the symmetry of design and boring windows that make it look so.

Although mobile homes and manufactured homes were common here 40 years ago, no one with money to build in this manner would have ever done that, mostly because of stigma, but also because of the lack of need. Building costs here in 1984 would not have been expensive in any way, and materials were readily available at local lumber yards, building supplies, etc.

Modular homes from factories have grown because of economies of scale, standardized quality control, but most importantly, due to geographical spikes in labor costs or availability of labor and materials.
 
And then people have the nerve of talking of those in mobile homes as "trailer trash".

Well, that epithet is an honest one in how it evolved.

The early mobile homes were full of walls with plastic seams between sections and at corners. They had cheap windows, cheap linoleum, cheap carpets. The kitchens featured particle board (pressed sawdust) cabinets clad in paper veneers and with cheap hardware. The closets and hallways were small and narrow. Sometimes walls were covered in cheap wallpapers, but just as often, plastic panels.

Design accents were garish, glitzy bronze, brass, or other shiny finished plastic or aluminum trims.

They were just the housing equivalent of a Hostess Twinkie versus a Napoleon. Where building was particularly expensive, such as in the mountains or far from metropolitan areas with supplies, they made some degree of sense. They provided cheap, affordable modern housing for people who had been living in usually rural squalor, with dilapidated old houses without modern bathrooms, etc. They were built for blue-collar people.

As such, they attracted the poorest, and quickly became slum properties.

Over time, the quality of the homes improved and were used more for lake homes, or by people who had more money than the poor, but couldn't afford as large a home if they had to custom build one.

And, they began to be used in overpriced markets in big cities as affordable retirement communities. Those like Chuck lived in were actually nice places to live at one time. I saw one in Albuquerque which was indeed a beautiful neighborhood, except for the crowding, which I'm just not comfortable with. I love people, at a distance.

So, the epithet at some point migrated from condemning the relatively low quality of the materials to the neglect and abuse and condition of a mobile home once renters or recent owners had trashed it, included leaving toys out all over the property, broken mowers, piles of junk. There are most definitely people who live as trailer trash, but there are also the same behaviors in wealthy families when an old home ages out and some scion declines and can not longer pay help and begins to hang on to a property without maintaining it. See Cold Comfort Farm. ;)
 
The early mobile homes were full of walls with plastic seams between sections and at corners. They had cheap windows, cheap linoleum, cheap carpets. The kitchens featured particle board (pressed sawdust) cabinets clad in paper veneers and with cheap hardware. The closets and hallways were small and narrow. Sometimes walls were covered in cheap wallpapers, but just as often, plastic panels.
Having lived in a couple of mobile homes (both rentals), I can attest to how cheaply they were made. Not built for the ages. I remember talking to someone in the county assessor office about the one I'm in now, and she commented how surprising it was to see it. It had survived past the expected life span.

Living in a mobile is one--although only one--reason why I figure that my dating life will likely remain lifeless. "Let's go back to my place" after that dinner and a movie isn't likely to get me laid.,,
 
Having lived in a couple of mobile homes (both rentals), I can attest to how cheaply they were made. Not built for the ages. I remember talking to someone in the county assessor office about the one I'm in now, and she commented how surprising it was to see it. It had survived past the expected life span.

Living in a mobile is one--although only one--reason why I figure that my dating life will likely remain lifeless. "Let's go back to my place" after that dinner and a movie isn't likely to get me laid.,,
My older sister lived in one when she was young and married, for maybe 10 years. I was young, so don't remember much about it.

My older brother did and his wife and kids for several years.

My younger sister and her husband do now.

My uncle and his wife did for a time.

They always felt too confined for me. I preferred to live in older homes if given a choice and not able to afford new and modern. A wooden or brick house just felt more honest to me. I didn't want new if it was new cheap.

It's funny because I love a bargain at a thrift store, but it's a bargain because it's a quality item inexpensively.

They do make better prefabbed modular homes now, but they are much, much more expensive than trailers were in their day.
 
I preferred to live in older homes if given a choice and not able to afford new and modern

I'd prefer older, period. Part of me feels like quality was better once--although maybe that's just my Inner Angry Old "Get Off My Lawn" man speaking. :LOL: Plus there is a feeling of history. And, on a practical level, an older house has wear, so unlike a brand new house, there is no worry about the first ding in the woodwork!

They do make better prefabbed modular homes now, but they are much, much more expensive than trailers were in their day.
Those are much, much, much better than mobile homes.

I've even heard arguments that they could--at least in theory--be better than a conventional home. One theory being that they are built in a factory, where conditions could be better controlled than a building site.

It's funny because I love a bargain at a thrift store, but it's a bargain because it's a quality item inexpensively.
I think (for me) even cheap crap can be a bargain in a thrift store. It may be cheap crap, but at least I'm not spending full price, so when it falls apart there is much, much less loss.

But it is undeniably even better when one can buy a quality item (maybe even quality that you really can't easily get new) in a thrift shop, while spending less than a item with similar function new.
 
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