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Tired of the engaged tone

If you look at those links Metta provided you'll see the problem. Half of the pinkuk pages have nothing on them and the ones that are filled in are hopelessly outdated.

The "groups" page on the SG&LH site does list a number of self-help groups, but most of them are for over-35's. The only one which does apply to me is the drop-in cafe - which, as I've already said, you have to ring the helpline to locate.

And neither of the google searches return any more useful info than was already listed on those two pages.

See? Nothing.
 
Can't really help much but just wanted to say you are doing better than I am. Annoying as it is to hear the tone I can't even get as far as to pick up the phone. Wanna get on and change and do a few things but for some reason I'm just to scared and nervous to. And as for going to a gay bar/club on my own, no way! (Sounding a bit of a case now). So just hang on in there and I'm sure you'll get there eventually.
 
well, if there is not a group for you, why not see about creating one. Maybe it can eventually develop into a gay and lesbian center. Find a place where you can all meet and develop a group by getting a bunch of gay people together. One way to start might be to create simple web page, maybe on myspace and create an online group for your area and then as the names are added, create a meeting place and time to get together. It will take a little while to do but as you can see, there is a need for it in your area.

I'm very shy, but if there was nothing in my area, I would create it and make it happen.

By creating the group yourself, it also give you more control as to the context of the group. For example, maybe you want to start a gay hiking group, or a gay bowling club, gay bike club, gay volleyball club, gay pollo club, gay kite flying club, gay baseball league, gay football club, gay restaurant club, gay pride festival committee, gay board game club, etc. There are thousands of gay clubs online that you can use as examples. I would recommend creating a club that allows people to talk to each other. For example a movie club would not allow for as much communication between each other.
 
why is it that you can't move to London again?

Two reasons:

1) There is simply NO WAY that I can afford to live in London on the level of wages I can expect to get until after I get the little piece of paper that says I'm entitled to put some letters after my name. I'm currently simply waiting for some exam results before I know on this score, so ask me again in six months.

2) London is a big and scary place, and I want to make at least some progress in actually being able to talk to people while I'm still living somewhere that I'm reasonably secure. If I were just to up sticks and move away right now, I'd be putting myself in exactly the same situation I was in when I moved to Reading however many years ago that was - and we all know about the disaster that ended in.

Besides, I'm not entirely certain that I would want to actually live in London itself - it's a nice place to visit, but actually living there would probably drive me crazy. I wouldn't mind moving somewhere a bit closer so that I can effectively just pop in and out whenever I wanted, but actually moving there is prolly too big a step.

What can I say. I'm a small-town boy at heart.

Brighton might work, though....

metta said:
well, if there is not a group for you, why not see about creating one.

The trouble with that is that all the things I've traditionally done to occupy my so-called "spare time" are all solitary things that really wouldn't benefit from being done in a group. I don't really have much of a clue what would interest me along those lines. I don't want to start a gay bowling club or whatever and then find out two weeks later that I really hate bowling.

That's why I kinda want to meet some people in some sort of neutral setting first, and then hopefully as I start to open up and relax a bit, I'll figure out what sort of things I would enjoy....
 
It just goes to show how desperately that help line is needed in your area.

Have you considered helping them once you get in contact? Imagine how many other people can't get through.

What about this idea Winternight?

You will certainly meet and talk to a lot of people.
 
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I'm guessing you sxtill never managed to get through to them on the phone. Did you try to write to them? Somebody in this thread said that he did end up talking to them, and they were happy with the experience.

CAN YOU GET REPEAT DIALING, or whatever it's called, where the phone will keep calling the number over and over until it gets through? (I think it keeps doing it for like half an hour or something, then you have to set it back up again.) I think that when it gets through, YOUR phone starts ringing at the same time, and you pick it up. I wish you luck, because this sounds like the first "local" thing that you felt real promise with.
 
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