Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome

[zunkian]

What is Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome?

Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome (TMS) is the habit some males have of masturbating in a face-down (prone) position. Some TMS practitioners rub their penises against the mattress, pillow, or other bedding, while others thrust into their hand. Some rub against the floor.

Read more about this at: http://www.healthystrokes.com/index.html

I have TMS (Correct me if I'm wrong but I won't call myself a sufferer because I feel good about it) and I would like to bring this to attention to find out if some of you guys also practice similar habits and have the same experience as I have.

I started humping the side of a bed, on a mattress, or any place when I am laying on a prone position at the age of 9. I usually position my cock between the mattress and my left thigh with my thigh rubbing my cock against the mattress. I also done it on a partner, humping their thighs, legs, belly, on their cocks, and sometimes on their chest. This way, I achieve electrifying orgasms. I cannot achieve the same orgasm when I lay face-up, or seated, or standing with any of my hands doing the works or me thrusting either hands. Also, even if a guy jacking me off. I can't. Secondly, I cannot achieve orgasm when being orally serviced though I have a full erection all the time. Topping a guy is out of the question.
Healthystrokes.com says this is not normal and men who masturbates in this kind of routine suffers from TMS. I feel I don't have to change the way I pleasure myself because I feel good about it and so far no damage has been done to my genitals.
Guys, let me know your thoughts, stories, your experiences, and if you have some advices. It would be great to find out if I am not alone on this.

 

[justsimon]

The doctor who came up with that term and decided to classify it as a disorder only studied 4 men. The survey cited on Healthy Strokes includes only 119. That hardly seems conclusive.

I don't see a problem with it as long as you're happy. Can you orgasm while bottoming? Is topping out of the question because you can't orgasm or because it doesn't feel good?

 

[KaraBulut]

From your description, that's not "Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome" (which most expert doubt is a syndrome).

What you're describing is frottage.

TMS is limited to virgins and prevents them from having relations with other people- which is why it is deemed a "problem".

Frottage (and other variants like intercrural intercourse) is viewed more as a fetish but as long as you and your partner are happy doing it, it is not considered a "problem".

 

[Mako247]

does TMS lead to blindness as well?

 

[KaraBulut]

does TMS lead to blindness as well?

Possibly for those who don't follow the no-flame zone rules in H&W.

 

[zunkian]

The doctor who came up with that term and decided to classify it as a disorder only studied 4 men. The survey cited on Healthy Strokes includes only 119. That hardly seems conclusive.

I don't see a problem with it as long as you're happy. Can you orgasm while bottoming?"
Is topping out of the question because you can't orgasm or because it doesn't feel good?

- When I bottom, I always want my body in a prone face-down position to attempt to rub myself while being fucked of course, and my partner on top of me, almost putting all his weight on me, and fucking me. In this set-up, we both achieve orgasm, him while fucking, and me while rubbing myself against the bed or mattress.
I always request this position to my partner, but if my partner wants me to be in a doggy position, a victory position, sit on him, or anything that he desires, I oblige but I certainly won't have an orgasm.

- Both. Topping for me doesn't feel good and I really don't feel excited and sometimes won't have a hard-on and I certainly won't have an orgasm.

 

[zunkian]

From your description, that's not "Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome" (which most expert doubt is a syndrome).

What you're describing is frottage.

TMS is limited to virgins and prevents them from having relations with other people- which is why it is deemed a "problem".

Frottage (and other variants like intercrural intercourse) is viewed more as a fetish but as long as you and your partner are happy doing it, it is not considered a "problem".

So it is more of a fetish and a healthy sexual practice? That is a relief!
I remember I had a sex partner once and he insist that I jack-off in front of his face so he wants to see me ejaculate. I said I can't do that. He was disappointed and cuts off our sex immediately and left the room........oh well

 

[KaraBulut]

So it is more of a fetish and a healthy sexual practice? That is a relief!

This "TMS" thing is a bit gimmicky.

Frottage and non penetrative sex have been around for a while and in the days before birth control, it was quite common.

Wikipedia has a bit of information that you might read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-penetrative_sex

I remember I had a sex partner once and he insist that I jack-off in front of his face so he wants to see me ejaculate. I said I can't do that. He was disappointed and cuts off our sex immediately and left the room........oh well

And this is really the problem.

Any masturbatory technique that becomes limiting- to the point that you can't have sex with other people or you can't come without doing it is a problem.

It would be better if you varied your masturbation routine so that you're able to function better with a partner. Yes, you will find it difficult to come at first. But these are learned responses, so if you continue to try different positions and different techniques, you will eventually reach a point where you are able to come. You just have to be patient and repetitive.

 

[ozguy]

Lieing face down in bed and rubbing my cock against the mattress was the only way I used to wank as a child. I think I was about 15 or 16 before I started using my hand. Now, some 40 years later, I still enjoy humping the bed, especially when I wake up in the morning and have my first wank of the day. I usually hump away till I'm just about to cum, then I flip myself over and finish off with my hand so that I spurt onto my belly.

 

[ChickenGuy]

TMS is limited to virgins and prevents them from having relations with other people- which is why it is deemed a "problem".

So I have TMS, then.

But I don't know why it would 'prevent me having relations with other people'.

At this stage, of course, I haven't a clue on whether I could orgasm through penetrative sex with another guy. I'll have to get back to you on that, lol.

And, yes, I do prefer frottage as a means of sex - whenever I think about how I would like my first time to be, I think about doing it this way.

Too much personal information. I'm getting a lot more uncomfortable about divulging stuff like this on JUB.

 

[KaraBulut]

So I have TMS, then.

But I don't know why it would 'prevent me having relations with other people'.

This "TMS" thing is somewhat suspect but what they're describing is something that we caution people against when masturbating. Masturbation is supposed to be reasonably close to the sensations of sexual intercourse (gay or straight).

When someone starts doing things like using vibrators or squeezing (instead of jacking) or masturbating while standing in the shower or rubbing up against things to reach ejaculation, this can set (or "condition") in a pattern that is hard to replicate when you're having sex with another person.

It's fine to try new sensations. However, we have people who post threads here and at EC about not being able to come when they have sex with another person. Sometimes this is just general nervousness but sometimes it can be because they have conditioned themselves during masturbation to come from a particular stimulus or from a particular position.

The TMS article goes further to say that the pressure upon the penis in this position can cause permanent damage which is something that is probably extremely rare.

 

[zunkian]

Lieing face down in bed and rubbing my cock against the mattress was the only way I used to wank as a child. I think I was about 15 or 16 before I started using my hand. Now, some 40 years later, I still enjoy humping the bed, especially when I wake up in the morning and have my first wank of the day. I usually hump away till I'm just about to cum, then I flip myself over and finish off with my hand so that I spurt onto my belly.

I tried flipping over when I'm about to cum but my hands were too late and feels like I'm not satisfied because the pressure was suddenly removed.

 

[zunkian]

This "TMS" thing is a bit gimmicky.

Frottage and non penetrative sex have been around for a while and in the days before birth control, it was quite common.

Wikipedia has a bit of information that you might read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-penetrative_sex




And this is really the problem.

Any masturbatory technique that becomes limiting- to the point that you can't have sex with other people or you can't come without doing it is a problem.

It would be better if you varied your masturbation routine so that you're able to function better with a partner. Yes, you will find it difficult to come at first. But these are learned responses, so if you continue to try different positions and different techniques, you will eventually reach a point where you are able to come. You just have to be patient and repetitive.

Ok. I tried wanking using my hands. Yes, it feels good alright most specially if I use a lubricant, oil, or sometimes soap (when taking a shower). I also try to close my eyes and imagine the most vivid sexual imagery I can muster in my mind. But I don't know, I still cannot reach that point of orgasm. Yes, I experience heavy breathing, sweats, tingling sensations in my groin area, but cannot make myself ejaculate. So, I have to resort to lay down prone position and finish off my wank session like that.

 

[KaraBulut]

Yes, I experience heavy breathing, sweats, tingling sensations in my groin area, but cannot make myself ejaculate.

Well, it doesn't sound like you're missing out on much- even if you didn't ejaculate from the sensation. The pleasure is as much the goal as the release.

So, I have to resort to lay down prone position and finish off my wank session like that.

Don't give up after one try. The frottage is something you've conditioned over a long period of time. One conventional wank session isn't going to undo that pattern you've set in over the years.

It's perfectly fine to alternate for a period until the more conventional style of masturbation becomes normal to you. But definitely try to avoid doing the rubbing and dry humping every time.