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Wow, piggy. It sounds like a movie. Sorry, buddy. I don't understand how she could have kept this from you.
 
How is that possible? A person is usually required to live publicly as their new gender before surgery is permitted. That is an awful situation, and a terrible betrayal to shock you with that.
 
Oh man! That's a shock of a life time. Sorry to hear about that. That could explain the daily arguments because she was on female hormone therapy. You're right, this relationship does not work. She's looking for a man...so are you.
 
How is that possible? A person is usually required to live publicly as their new gender before surgery is permitted.

And came back "after two weeks"? I know a few trans-women, and two weeks after the "new plumbing is installed" no one is up to much travel, and is still on a hefty regimen of cleaning and fairly intrusive maintenance procedures.
 
I'm not sure I follow the history, but an interesting question is raised: if the body is trivial and we're supposed to love a person and be attracted to them regardless of what they do with it, then why was it so important to change it in the first place?

If I'm supposed to love a man for her new body, why couldn't she love himself in her old body.

And if the pronouns aren't supposed to matter to me, why should they matter to her?
 
wow, she is so complicated.


How do i search for my old thread?
It was about a man, sex changed into a woman and now a lesbian.
 
Guys, I'm going by what the guy said and what I saw. I mean I didn't ask the guy to show me her privates.

But after talking to her friends and family, they saw the signs. With me, he acted way too macho, always saying I was his lady guy. He drove a truck and hunted. And I didn't. I know now she said she's been in the purpose for months before we met, she has gone through didn't procedures.

sad he had changed into a lady.
Was he attractive ? (now a she)
 
It's sad he thought he needed to lie to everyone, to me about how he felt. I would have supported him, because we were first friends.

I think this is the real issue. She should have talked to you about all of this.
 
I'm not sure I follow the history, but an interesting question is raised: if the body is trivial and we're supposed to love a person and be attracted to them regardless of what they do with it, then why was it so important to change it in the first place?

Loving each other for our insides works fine for friends, but is that really all there is to how we choose relationships. Look at human cultures, think of how much time and resources we pour into physical attraction, across the spectrum, it's willful blindness to think that's not indicative of something innate.
 
I'm sure you'll both still care for each other. Afterall, it's not like her mind had operation. Obviously the feelings will still be there. However, not being physically attracted to the body won't help much. I guess the relationship is still possible, but it would sure be difficult to maintain.
 
Piggy I jumped into the deep end of trying to understand why, but when I reread this I think this is all still a new shock for you, isn't it? Sorry if its too soon to worry about how and why, but I imagine those questions might turn over in your head too.

Take care.
 
In 6 months, we talked about moving in together and having a boy of our own.

Wow. Really? That seems awfully fast to me. I guess everyone moves at their own pace, but I don't feel like I even really know someone until after a good year with them.

Still, it sucks how things turned out.
 
Holy crap, you're right to get out of there! You're a brave and good guy.
 
It's the female hormone she's on...drama. Best wishes to you Piggy for moving on! :D
 
somehow this reminds me on the southpark episode where mr garrison just becomes mrs garrison and expects mr slave to live with this.


seems you dodge a bullet there. leave him/her behind and stay away.

ask any straight guy if he would still "unconditionally love" his girl when she just goes ahead and becomes a man. or any straight woman about her man.
this might be something that you can overcome but most certainly not if it is just dropped onto you.
 
I agree with everyone. It's a betrayal in some way, and if she is spreading lies about you, thre is some mal-intent.

I *don't* agree with what your friend said about "what happened with loving who's on the inside." As a friend, and fellow human, YES, you can still love someone as they are, however, as a partner, she is now a WOMAN, so that understandably changes the core of who they are from the outside in.
 
it wise pretty wise of you to break up and you're totally right if he/she kept that from you what else could she keep?

you have things pretty clear and I'm glad about that, you'll find the right man.

hugs.
 
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