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So..I know theres a million and one topics on here with the same thing, but I gotta ask for advice on my situation.

My best friend and I, both 19, both straight (well I'm bi, but to him I'm straight). We've never fooled around at all. Neither of us are really sexually active so we don't boast or talk about much sex, etc. He's told me he's jerked off 16 times in a day, that's about as far as anythings gone lol. I'm home for winter break from school, and I've tried to make subtle advances but haven't really gotten anywhere. Last night, we were at a mutual friends house with two of our friends (so 4 people) and we both were sitting on the couch. Alcohol got me loosened up to the point where I'd repeatedly take my knee and dig into his knee/thigh. It got to the point where he put his arm around the back of the couch (not really around me, but not quite a typical straight move?) and this isn't the first time he's done it, but he does it very rarely.

Again, both of us are straight to each other. What's my next move/step? I don't even want to go right to oral or anything, just a mutual jackoff would be more than fine. I don't think he'd have any problem with that, but it's kinda hard to bring up.."oh lets jack off!" doesn't quite work. Sorry for makin ya read all that, but any advice would be much appreciated.
 
My first post here, anyway you have get him alone. Nothing will happen in front of other people, at least not in this situation. I know what it is like getting hard for a guy and not knowing exactly how to go about making a play. You know wanting to be in bed with him so bad it makes your cock hurt.

You could let him know you are bisexual, see how that goes. You don't have to come right out and say it, if you are not comfortable with doing that. You could be oblique, make a comment on some girl's boyfriend, like "I can see why she likes him, he is just too cute". Or comment on another guys fashion. That will give him something to think about.

All guys like getting a blow job, bring it up in conversation. Guide the conversion in a way that you can position yourself to make a move. If you are on a couch and his arm is behind you then take a chance and place your hand on his thigh. If he doesn't reject it move it right between his legs, feel him get hard and enjoy.

I've asked guys outright if I could give suck there cocks. One guy I had asked over to my place for dinner. I was sure was gay outright turned me down, said he was straight. I was horny one night, really so, and too a chance and asked a guy I worked with. He couldn't get his cock out fast enough. He ended up being my boyfriend for a while.

You never know unless you make a move. Be ready for rejection.
 
How much do you enjoy your friendship? Is the risk of losing it worth the chance that you may possibly be able to mess around with him. Btw putting his arm around the couch is not any indicator at alll.. He is just being comfortable with friends..
 
When one has truly bonded in deep friendship with another fellow, one can expect that the sexual tensions inside each fellow will increase. Ideally, they would have the privacy at some point to let their guards down and "do what comes naturally" casting aside those restraints which keep males from bonding in a physical (sexual) way.

It does take a bit of patience, perhaps more than a bit. In my own experience when a friendship has become more than a friendship things do change. My partners and I thought of ourselves as regular guys and looking back I always noted that both of us were giving signals to the other. It is the basic relationship that seems to be demanding more. It has to be felt by both; there is IMHO no room for anything approaching seduction.

The love between us was real and that for me explains why the sex happened so naturally.

Yes, I do recall that there were fellows who I still consider dear friends but with whom the level that required sexual intimacy was never reached. And those friendships have also lasted. One does learn that not all fellows are comfortable with same-sex love relationships.
 
You are just frustrating yourself. Find someone who is definitely gay and open to casual sex.

Your next move is to stop thinking of your friend in a sexual way.
 
Well, my advice is to be patient and try to keep your friendship intact at all costs...A good friend is FAR more valuable than a good Fuck.

With that said, you can often have your cake and eat it too! Patience is the key though and it may take a while...Try to do things together without other folks being around as much as you can...Get drunk and party together. Invite him to stay at your place for the weekend, or spend the weekend at his place.
If that's not possible, go on an overnite trip together somewhere....to the beach, to a car race or something that's a distance away so you'll have to stay at a motel.

If you are good friends, I'm sure you'd both be comfortable to hang around or go to bed in your underwear...If he doesn't, just go ahead and do it yourself...get changed or naked in front of him...I guarantee, straight or not, he won't mind or think anything's weird about you.

If you're lucky, he'll do the same....IF not, be patient and he WILL eventually.
Once you've gotten to the point where you can both be in your underwear together, you can start suggesting that you sleep in the same bed together...or suggest sleeping in the nude.

It may take some time, but, I've done this a few times and it you'll either get what you want or at least you'll get to see his goodies and what he has to offer...

Hang in there!
 
The thing is, I have gotten time alone with him. We recently painted a house together, just the two of us. Both of us were in sweatpants, and I got hard a couple times (though not any bulge sticking straight out). Also, while getting dressed for painting, I was going to go commando and decided against that. I get in his car and he brings up the fact he didn't put any underwear on. I don't know that he got hard, but I have seen a bulge before in his sweatpants. He's also changed in front of me, as well as slept in his boxers with me (with two other people in the living room with us). That's not anything to indicate any sexual tension, but still there.

And yes, it is frustrating. I do not expect anything to happen, nor would I ever want to ruin our friendship over it. However, my main question is, is there any indication there from him that he wants nearly the same thing I do? I'm not going to lose sleep over it or ruin a friendship, but having been around straight guys, something tips me off here.
 
First off if I was sitting in my living room and a str8 or gay couple started doing touchy feely things I would be anoyed. In your case the last thing you want to do is anything when it is not just you two. I disagree that if you ask him you will loose a friend if you do he was'nt one.

Honesty is the best policyt just tell him that your curious sometimes wwhen you see guys not him guys.

However if you are turned on by him just because you think fooling around is a posibility forget it.
 
Well, sounds like you're on the right track anyway...Keep trying...spend more time with him alone, maybe getting drunk and spending the night. It may take more time, and, I KNOW it can be frustrating!!

Like folks have said, if he is a good friend, he probably won't be upset if you tell him you like looking at guys occaisionally...He probably won't care if he finds out you're gay if you end up telling him, but that may make his shy away from getting involved with any more 'intimate' contact with you.;

You can be a bit bolder, ask him if he'll give you a massage or see if he wants one. I'm sure you'll get oppurtunities to get closer physically....I can't answer at this point though if he actually wants to get 'sexual'.
 
So a bit of an update. Nothing happened to end my winter break. He's mentioned in conversation a "devils" threesome (MMF) with minimal eye contact and no touching between the guys, etc. etc. So that lead me off the 'trail'.

Then he invites me over to do P90X (the workout routine) with him. I went over to his house, and he proceeds to go shirtless with just basketball shorts on (not unusual at all) but then proceeds to tell me about three or four times that he'd love to do this workout naked. I kinda just brushed it off as I'm still unsure and not gonna say "OK lets get naked!"

That was about it over break, though we've talked every day more so than we have in the recent past. Today while talking with him, he called me a cock tease, then followed it up with another quick IM of some stupid song lyric. Last I knew, a cock tease means he'd be the gay one being angry at me (straight) for teasing but not doing anything.

Dunno, I'm confused more than ever and just lost as to how to advance with anything.
 
he proceeds to go shirtless with just basketball shorts on (not unusual at all) but then proceeds to tell me about three or four times that he'd love to do this workout naked. I kinda just brushed it off as I'm still unsure and not gonna say "OK lets get naked!"

That was about it over break, though we've talked every day more so than we have in the recent past. Today while talking with him, he called me a cock tease

If you let those two openings pass you by you might as well give it up....... #-o
 
Maybe he is dropping subtle hints. I would say drop a few back if you're into him. Like:

"I'm freaking horny today."

or something equally corny as mentioning you want to work out naked. haha


If you end up just wanting to stay friends than don't bring it up and just enjoy the rare moments you do get to enjoy his body.

However, if you do you are going to have to make a move if you turly think he might be into guys. You know him better than we do and the risk is yours and yours alone.

If you win you're out and so is he and you have a chance to have something with him. Awesome! :)

If you lose you don't get him, you're out of the closet and ontop of all that you risk losing your friendship with him.

So either "go big or go home."

Sorry if that advice didn't help any. :/
 
these are not subtle hints. he craves you....and don't fall into the trap of over thinking this. seven2go is right...take the next opportunity that presents itself.
 
The next time he proposes to get naked...*GET NAKED*!!!

Hell, you could even play it off as a joke. Drop trow and say "like this?"
 
Wow..seems like forever ago I posted this.

Anyway, nothing's happened since January, and our friendship has grown to be rough, though we're still best of friends. But last night was..interesting. We were both partying, he ended up passing out at like midnight (typical..haha) on the main couch, and took up the whole thing. So, I was drunk and ready to pass out at like 4am and couldn't do so on a wooden chair/stool..so I pick up his legs and sit on the couch. Now mind you, I'm pretty damn drunk here, but eventually it got to the point where I was rubbing his dick in his shorts..while he was (hopefully?..haha) passed out. Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever done in my life..especially given one of my friends saw me I guess (I'm straight..lol). But anyway..should be interesting when I see him next I guess.
 
In my view your friend is 100% str8 and it is him who is the cock tease! I think he has guessed your interest in other guys cocks but he is not prepared to play ! After all you have given him plenty of opportunities to show any bi interest , sleeping together when only wearing boxers and stripping off in front of each other. Being Bi I have had many similar experiences especially sleeping in the same bed as srt8 guys when away on college outings! Many the night I have nursed a real stiff one hoping there might be some response but the guys always turned the other way!
It is time you forget him as a possible jo partner and just accept him as a great str8 buddy ! BTW when you were feeling his cock thro his pants when he was out for the count , did you get him aroused at all ? Just interested :-)
Now go out a find yourself a gay of bi buddy who wants to play. Best of luck ;)
 
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