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What's too young?

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Not sure where to put this.

When I was 21, I met some new neighbors. I'm not sure which I met first, but I was more interested in the girl to begin with. She was 18, pretty hot and seemed like a really cool person. She had a very jealous boyfriend (my age) in prison and he was getting out soon.

She had little brother I assumed to be 15, because of something my niece said and he was a year behind my niece in school. I always thought this guy had a hot body, but an ugly face. The more time I spent with him, the cuter he got.

One time we were driving around. He wanted to look for girls, but what do I know about looking for girls? Finally he said, “I just want someone to suck my dick. I don’t care who does it, as long as it’s getting done.” I wanted to volunteer but I said, “Don’t look at me.” He was underage, I wasn’t out and I didn’t know what his reaction would be. I still think about it sometimes.

He went away for a couple years and came back even hotter. He told me was older than I thought he was, but I didn’t believe him. Maybe he is?

Now I have a 16 year old niece living with me. Men and boys of all ages are checking her out and hitting on her constantly. I think of her as a little girl and don’t like men acting like that, but I pick her up from school and I check out some of the guys, (seniors, maybe juniors?) while I wait.

I usually end up with older men and I don' t know that I've ever been with anyone under 20. 25-35 is what I've always gone for and there have been more over 35, than under 25. But I still like to look.

Why is 18 the magic number? Is it wrong for me to check out these young hot guys?
 
D'uh.

Too young is whatever is less than the legal age in any jurisdiction. The US has effectively determined the international age of majority for anything on the internet.

In some jurisdictions, it is not illegal for two 16 year old kids to make out, but would be if one of them was 18 and the other 16.

Now I have a 16 year old niece living with me. Men and boys of all ages are checking her out and hitting on her constantly. I think of her as a little girl and don’t like men acting like that, but I pick her up from school and I check out some of the guys, (seniors, maybe juniors?) while I wait.

Isn't there something wrong with your logic?????????
 
I'm gonna think of her as a little girl forever. I've just noticed that everyone is looking at her and some are pretty old. What makes 18 the magic number? Don't look now, but next year is ok?

I thought it might be ok for me to be with a 15 or 16 year old at 21. When I was around 15, I knew a lot of 15 year old girls with 20-22 year old boyfriends. Now at 30, I wouldn't want my niece to be with a twenty year old guy. And I can't imagine myself with an 18 year old, but it's nice to look.
 
I'd say its a legal thing. 18 is when you're legally considered an adult, and able to make your own decisions. There's a reason why the age limit is 18. Most kids 17 and younger just don't have the maturity to make good decisions for themselves. I'm not saying all - just a lot. Yes, there are kids more mature at 18 than some are at 25, but it's still kind of an experience/maturity thing, in my opinion.

I'd say look if you want, but don't start anything with anyone below 18. At 17, it IS an age difference thing. Granted, that kind of age gap doesnt matter when they're, say, 25, and you're 37, but there's definitely a sliding scale of acceptance for this.
 
I thought it might be ok for me to be with a 15 or 16 year old at 21. When I was around 15, I knew a lot of 15 year old girls with 20-22 year old boyfriends. Now at 30, I wouldn't want my niece to be with a twenty year old guy. And I can't imagine myself with an 18 year old, but it's nice to look.

When I think back to high school, I remember knowing girls who were dating "college guys". At the time, it seemed like a big deal. These girls wore it as a badge of honor that they were with "college guys" who were clearly superior to guys their own age who were immature. Of course, by the time I got to college, anybody who was dating a girl who was still in high school was looked at basically as a loser.
 
Agreed. No self-respecting college dude should be dating high school bitches...

They should move on to MILFs
 
It is odd that 18 is the magic number. I think most guys under 21 are still kids. Some of these kids have mature bodies so it's natural to be attracted but they also talk and who wants to hear all that drama? I can't believe young guys are growing beards and chest hair now. it was rare when I was in school for that to happen. Is it the water? People really are growing up physically much faster. I always grew with my age group. Whatever age I was that was the age group I found attractive. Now that I am 34 I think guys around 36 are the hottest. But when I was 24 I loved guys that age. I think that's how it should be and wonder how men get stuck finding a much younger age group attractive? Whenever I am on JUB and see guys in their late 30's and on talk about how hot these young twink members on here are it makes me think they have a huge maturity problem. Why these guys wanna fuck these young hairless twinks is so beyond me. I actually find it sick even if these guys are 18 and 19. A teen should not be lusted after buy anyone that much older than them. But not everyone thinks the way I do.
 
Love is blind, deaf and dumb. Well thats what I always say. Too young is really in the eye of the beholder, well within legal and moral reason.

Checking people out who are below the legal limit, while weird it isn't wrong, acting on it is wrong. People dont change at 16/18(/Whatever the legal age is for you) they dont wake up on that birthday and instantly become 'hot' its perfectly normal to look, just dont touch.

Love however, thats cant be regulated, I knew a 15 year old who was dating a 27 year old, okay so the 27 year old acted like a teenager, but still thats wrong in my opinion, but they loved each other, what can you do?
 
Love is blind, deaf and dumb. Well thats what I always say. Too young is really in the eye of the beholder, well within legal and moral reason.

Checking people out who are below the legal limit, while weird it isn't wrong, acting on it is wrong. People dont change at 16/18(/Whatever the legal age is for you) they dont wake up on that birthday and instantly become 'hot' its perfectly normal to look, just dont touch.

Love however, thats cant be regulated, I knew a 15 year old who was dating a 27 year old, okay so the 27 year old acted like a teenager, but still thats wrong in my opinion, but they loved each other, what can you do?

Age is not just a number. People say that to ease their minds. That 27 year old is a sick predator. And you justify it by saying the 27 year old acted like a teenager? Yes, you went on to say it was wrong and that justified it again by saying they love each other so what can you do? call the police!!!
 
Age is not just a number. People say that to ease their minds. That 27 year old is a sick predator. And you justify it by saying the 27 year old acted like a teenager? Yes, you went on to say it was wrong and that justified it again by saying they love each other so what can you do? call the police!!!

Call the police?, they didn't do anything wrong, he waited untill she was legal, they were together for about 3 years untill she slept with someone else.

Age is just a number, someone turning 16 doesn't just wake up on their 16th birthday different, age doesn't work like that, although in our legal systems and sense of understanding things having a legal age that is clear cut is just easier, but really its a sliding scope, people mature at different ages.

I work with 18 year olds who act and even look 14, but then I also work with 15 year olds who act and look in their 20's, but the clear cut legal age system is easy and practical.
 
A diabolical two-sided argument.

The prevailing belief isthat all people over age 18 should not pursue anyone who is less than 18.

But at the same time, the belief is also that 100% of people over 18 are mature enough to handle these relationships, and 100% of people under 18 aren't mature enough.
The startling and amazing fact is, though, that I'll assure you 100% that this isn't always 100% true.
 
Call the police?, they didn't do anything wrong, he waited untill she was legal, they were together for about 3 years untill she slept with someone else.

Age is just a number, someone turning 16 doesn't just wake up on their 16th birthday different, age doesn't work like that, although in our legal systems and sense of understanding things having a legal age that is clear cut is just easier, but really its a sliding scope, people mature at different ages.

I work with 18 year olds who act and even look 14, but then I also work with 15 year olds who act and look in their 20's, but the clear cut legal age system is easy and practical.

Huh? That's not at all what you wrote! You never said she waited 3 years. I'm confused. Either way a 15 year old should not be dating a 27 year old. Nothing you say will change my mind on that!
People do mature at different rates but life experience and aging is what makes people grow in my opinion. And a 14 year old who knows it all is just annoying!! He don't know shit!
 
I agree with you, dragon, about the 14 year-older who knows it all.

I also would agree with you if you had said the same thing about a 27 year older who knew it all. :)

But I'm being serious, too.
 
Of course 18 is not a magic number - you only have to look at the varying ages of consent in different countries or jurisdictions to know that. Or to consider the differing age restrictions on drinking, marrying, joining the army, voting and having sex to see the hypocrisy of the legislation.

Laws are created, by and large, by fat, powerful white men - and despite their education and any humanity they mioght possess - are usually designed to maintain a status quo that will enable them to maintain their current position.

You need to distinguish between what is legally 'right' and what is morally 'right' - everyone, and perhaps more particularly gay men, need to consider how their personal moral beliefs fit in with mainstream views: where they will choose to adhere to mainstream views, where to differ, and the risks involved in dissent.
 
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