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[peeonme]

You math types should calculate what inflation rate that would be from the year of the coin being struck until now. I wonder what the $8,500 represents.

I am hardly a math type and much of this thread is well over my head, however I did work with rare coins at one time for a period of about 3 years.

The $8500. price tag on this coin has little to do with inflation but rather with is scarcity, in like fashion a Double Eagle $20.00 U.S. gold piece has a premium well above it's value in gold due to it's numismatic value, a Krugerrand has a much lower premium as it's sole purpose is for gold investment and it really has no collectors value.

A 1913 $20. gold coin can be worth $2000.-3000.00. As for it's inflation rate, it would take about $472.00 today to buy what the coin did in 1913. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

 

[Alnitak]

^Fascinating...but quite impossible...

I can't conceive of a way to contain neutron degenerate matter considering the degeneracy pressure is 10000000000000000000 times greater than the center of a thermonuclear explosion. I mean neutron stars are the remnants of supernovas, the most energetic events in the universe. Like you said, quite impossible.

 

[cgymike]

^Quite so.

 

[Kulindahr]

I can't conceive of a way to contain neutron degenerate matter considering the degeneracy pressure is 10000000000000000000 times greater than the center of a thermonuclear explosion. I mean neutron stars are the remnants of supernovas, the most energetic events in the universe. Like you said, quite impossible.

Well, if you have warp drive and artificial gravity . . . . .

 

[Alnitak]

^Quite so.

Alternatively an array of small detectors could act as a telescope, as we already do with radio waves at the VLA. The significance of this technology cannot be understated.

All the way at the edge of the observable universe - billions of light years out beyond the most distant objects we can see - there is a background, sort of like a wall paper, called the cosmic microwave background. It is a picture of the universe as it appeared aged only 380,000 years.

There is one made of neutrinos that shows the universe as it was just two seconds old, and it's out there for us to take a picture of. As you know, the universe at two seconds was an incredibly tiny object. Thus the wallpaper in the sky is but a blown up image of that tiny microscopic universe, which has more stars than grains of sand on 300 beaches. This is the way to unlock the secret of creation.

 

[Alnitak]

Well, if you have warp drive and artificial gravity . . . . .

I have sci fi fantasies. Every nerd does. Cruising down 95 I imagine myself in a nuclear powered flying car glowing cobalt blue with Cherenkov radiation, only I am immune thanks to the billions of nanobots in my cells repairing the DNA. If only you could see what I see. Oh you probably do

 

[cgymike]

Explain and expiate to known terrestrial coordinates. Also, amplify in terms of hyperdimensional transformations giving algorithmic substantiation.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

Except with time, the "current" is made up of forces acting in dimensions we can't even touch.

If parking on the event horizon of a black hole stops time, and traveling the speed of light makes time pass faster, doesn't that make us (kinda) close?


... of course, we could always sling shot around the sun.

 

[Alnitak]

It was gravity waves after all.

Now it is thought that gravitational waves caused the polarization of the CMB.

The theory has not yet been peer reviewed, but this could be the first image ever of quantum gravitational effects.

 

[palbert]

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That is one Captcha I'll never get.

 

[Kulindahr]

I have sci fi fantasies. Every nerd does. Cruising down 95 I imagine myself in a nuclear powered flying car glowing cobalt blue with Cherenkov radiation, only I am immune thanks to the billions of nanobots in my cells repairing the DNA. If only you could see what I see. Oh you probably do

My "car" isn't nuclear powered, it's powered by a miniature white hole tuned to emit a mix of heavy hydrogen at a controlled rate for a miniature fusion reactor.

 

[Kulindahr]

If parking on the event horizon of a black hole stops time, and traveling the speed of light makes time pass faster, doesn't that make us (kinda) close?

... of course, we could always sling shot around the sun.

Traveling the speed of light freezes time for the traveler relative to the rest of the universe.

Time freezes if you park at the event horizon of the black hole because in order to stay put at that point you're effectively traveling away from it at the speed of light -- it's just that it's pulling you in at the speed of light.


Actually what you want is a worm hole -- a fantasy one you could travel through, or at least (far more likely) send a message. Take one end of the worm hole and park it where it won't wander. Then take the other end of the wormhole and strap it on your spaceship. Go to warp speed, and if the wormhole doesn't tear your ship apart, and you travel at 99.9999% of the speed of light, you can come back in what for you has been a few weeks of fingernail-chewing worry watching the wormhole lest you lose it, but the other end of the wormhole will have experienced a couple of centuries... except it won't; what happens is when you get back, the other end of the wormhole, since it is connected to your end, only experienced those few weeks -- so in relation to you, it's now a couple of centuries in the past.

You can now send email to that past, through your wormhole -- but only to the past that end is anchored to.



(I think I got that right.)

 

[Kulindahr]

It was gravity waves after all.

Now it is thought that gravitational waves caused the polarization of the CMB.

The theory has not yet been peer reviewed, but this could be the first image ever of quantum gravitational effects.

You forgot something important:

http://time.com/24894/gravity-waves-expanding-universe/

If it checks out, the universe is apparently a no-braner.