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[Kulindahr]

Exploding kids are always funny.

Kinda like dead baby jokes.... sick, but ya gotta laugh.

And it's not even original.

Take a look at the first-ever Jim Henson-produced film, featuring Kermit, who at the time wasn't a frog.. just a puppet named "Kermit."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ky7g1lgTwc

Mixed bag, there, from stupid to hilarious.

Touché. However, it is the only developed country in the world that still has deniers and apologists. Fortunately, one good thing the SCOTUS has ruled is that the EPA has the power now to regulate CO2 emissions as a pollutant. Otherwise, the US govt would be doing nothing to help curb these emissions. Obama had been trying to get the Energy Reform Act thru Congress, but I think has realized trying to deal with Congress/Republicans is a waste of time, so can just use his executive branch fiat to crush these polluters.

Oh, yay for skipping the legislative branch to put law in place.

 

[Kulindahr]

It actually seems like an anti-climate change message to me. It reinforces the fear that many non-believers have voiced: that climate change is a "bandwagon" type of belief, a popularist attitude that people are a part of without consideration or logic. Veering away from the popularist attitude results in scorn and derision. People who ask questions are to be ignored or removed.

If an agency provided this concept to me I'd fire them. It fails in multiple ways to sell any positive message of reducing carbon emissions, supports a major talking point of the opposition, and alienates a large part of the audience.

After my third viewing, I agree here 100%. The main point seems to be that people who want carbon use reduced are totalitarians willing to blow people up, even if they help but just don't do enough. Even if it showed on Monty Python so people expected some outre humor, that impression would dominate.

 

[Kulindahr]

And tolerating morons and idiots has gotten the movement where exactly?

False dichotomy.

Tolerating stupidity and being stupid aren't the only options.

 

[andysayshi]

The spot would sell a much better message if, for example, the non-participants had big glass containers drop over them when the button is pushed, and we then see them in every day situations - ironing, driving, watching TV, as their glass jar slowly fills with fumes and gets hot. The message: if you don't want to do something about carbon emissions, you have to live with the consequences.

That could have been funny AND poignant. In its current form, it might have a bit of gross-out comedy, but the message is so blurry it's lost altogether.

 

[Jack Springer]

After reading most of these comments, I'd have to say I have even less respect for the liberal point of view.

The respect for human life is a basic tenet of our society.

So is this how you'd prefer to deal with your children, your family, your neighbors, your fellow citizens that have beliefs that are different than yours or just don't have an opinion.

SICK!

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^

And tolerating conservative bigotry is not sick?

Please...

Jock, from my experience most conservatives are not bigots . . . but I'm not so sure about liberals being caring human beings.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

AThe respect for human life is a basic tenet of our society.

Which is why you see all those Evangelicals campaigning to stop the death penalty.

Oh... wait....

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Jock, from my experience most conservatives are not bigots . . .

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efee1c6UMog[/ame]

 

[Jack Springer]

Which is why you see all those Evangelicals campaigning to stop the death penalty.

Oh... wait....

Jason - there are many churches who don't support the death penalty -- they also don't support abortion.

The death penalty is general for treason or murder. Guess you're saying that murder is not a bad thing.

Let's all hug.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Jason - there are many churches who don't support the death penalty --

But the majority that do... well, you'll give them a pass, right?

 

[Jack Springer]

But the majority that do... well, you'll give them a pass, right?

No, I personally support the death penalty.

If the death penalty were swift and fair, I believe it would make some people think twice about committing murder.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

I have even less respect for the liberal point of view.

The respect for human life is a basic tenet of our society.

No, I personally support the death penalty.

 

[MoltenRock III]

It's amusing watching the "so-called" conservatives get all pissy over wanting to use and abuse the natural resources of America and the world willy nilly and without regard to the human impact it causes.

What makes the ad funny is that liberal groups and environmentalists aren't planting explosives on people who don't recycle or pay attention to their ecological footprint. The same cannot be said for conservatives making jokes or tongue-in-cheek commercials against gays because, well.... they actually do beat, maim, and kill gay people regularly.

But hey the faux outrage is a required Republican tenant because they know they are in the wrong on this issue.

 

[MoltenRock III]

Oh, yay for skipping the legislative branch to put law in place.

What can you expect when a 1/2 of one branch (the Senate) continues to abdicate it's responsibility on the issue? *shrug*

If anything, the President only needs to declare it a national security issue (which it is) and bypass the cowards in the Senate anyway. The House has done its job under Pelosi, and passed an additional 241 pieces of legislation that the Senate has been to locked up over due to Republitard's filibusters. Never in the history of the Republic has any party done what Republicans have done in the Senate. They have used every rule, and courtesy in the book to stymie and stop any legislation at all be it good, bad, or indifferent simply to ruin the country so they can blame it on Democrats and Obama. They hate America, and are completely indifferent to her citizens suffering. They don't give a shit! Why? Because they think they should be in charge. They want power for power's sake. Sick!

 

[laikaNYC]

Please spare me your internal reconciliation/justification struggles you have between being gay and conservative.

The Republican Party would not be as anti-gay as it is if they weren't.

Once again you're personally attacking people you disagree with. You need to understand that not all gay men base their vote solely on something like gay marriage. You're a terrible example of a tolerant liberal. The Democratic party has been hi-jacked by intolerant Progressives, ie; the Media Matters, DailyKos crowds who relish in hate towards those with different opinions.

 

[laikaNYC]

Believing in Traditional Marriage, like Obama does, doesn't make you a bigot. You will never win anyone over by insulting them. You only succeed in driving them further away. Put aside the hatred you have for those who don't agree with your causes and try reasoning with them.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Believing in Traditional Marriage, like Obama does, doesn't make you a bigot.

No, it doesn't.


But trying to make laws to take it away from people, like Obama doesn't and your people do.... DOES make you a bigot.

You really wanna keep playing this game? You're really bad at it.

 

[MoltenRock III]

Insulting and shaming are not the same thing. MLK shamed opponents of civil rights handily in all of his major writings by writing harshly about their character.

Foxpublicans are deathly afraid of being mocked. Why? Because they have such thin skin they lose their minds, because of their own self loathing. But mainly, they know that once SNL and other organizations call their candidates out being absolutely ridiculous, they can stick a fork in that candidate and call them done. They'll never be elected.

Sadly, the American press for some reason feels compelled by in large to treat many of these kooks as "an alternative view" and so won't call them out on their bullshit, nor mock them as they deserve. NO! They do not have an alternative viewpoint! They're filled with lies, hatred, and corporate sponsors lining their pockets.

I don't tolerate KKK members, or openly homophobic morons, or anyone else being dillweeds. I will not treat morons of the right with "respect" when they advocate ridiculous and stupid positions. Glenn Beck last Friday had the nerve to claim that slavery was the result of "too much government regulation" and being too burdensome on businesspeople! WTF!?!? No one touting such nonsense should be treated with anything but utter distain, disgust, and laughed off the stage of life.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-blames-evils-of-slavery-on-government-regulation/

 

[Kulindahr]

What can you expect when a 1/2 of one branch (the Senate) continues to abdicate it's responsibility on the issue? *shrug*

If anything, the President only needs to declare it a national security issue (which it is) and bypass the cowards in the Senate anyway. The House has done its job under Pelosi, and passed an additional 241 pieces of legislation that the Senate has been to locked up over due to Republitard's filibusters. Never in the history of the Republic has any party done what Republicans have done in the Senate. They have used every rule, and courtesy in the book to stymie and stop any legislation at all be it good, bad, or indifferent simply to ruin the country so they can blame it on Democrats and Obama. They hate America, and are completely indifferent to her citizens suffering. They don't give a shit! Why? Because they think they should be in charge. They want power for power's sake. Sick!

I can't convince myself that CO2 emissions can be called a national security issue. OTOH, the reliance on foreign oil certainly is, and cutting that will mean dealing with the CO2 issue anyway. We could do a lot by going with thermal depolymerization ("anything to oil") to turn our trash into oil, but to get free of the imports will mean heavy reliance on things that don't produce emissions at all (unless you count stray neutrons ).

Once again you're personally attacking people you disagree with. You need to understand that not all gay men base their vote solely on something like gay marriage. You're a terrible example of a tolerant liberal. The Democratic party has been hi-jacked by intolerant Progressives, ie; the Media Matters, DailyKos crowds who relish in hate towards those with different opinions.

Granting that the Democratic Party has been hijacked by an array of intolerant people, that doesn't excuse the hijacking of the Republican Party by even more intolerant bigots. Whether the Log Cabin gig is to be admired or derided is an entertaining question, but I know one thing for certain: no one who believes in liberty should be supporting a party which is a de facto front for the movement toward theocracy. The Tea Party loves to remind us all, and rightly so, that there is a Second Amendment option available to the people of this country; what they fail to recognize is that the biggest threat to the United States for which the Second Amendment option would be appropriate is not on the left, but on the Right -- the theocratic right, who demand far more conformity than the PTBs of the Left.

 

[Kulindahr]

You're damn right I hate hatred, as should you. Or are you so buddy buddy with conservatives you have learned to tolerate hatred against the gay community? I think you have. But I have news for you, "Difference of opinion" is not a viable synonym for bigotry.

You're asking me to tolerate abuse, something with which you are obviously comfortable. Here I see you spinning hate against the gay community from the conservatives you love into a simply a matter of "different opinions." Your "difference of opinion" is for instance what is responsible for teenage kids like Asher Brown feeling like they don't belong and thinking that putting a gun to their heads is the only viable option, because conservatives like the ones you praise think homosexuals like yourself don't deserve rights.

I don't buy your simplistic reduction of hate into "difference of opinion," and neither do other civil rights advocates. It is the liberals and progressives in every generation which has brought the American values of equality and freedom to minorities, and it will always be that way, not conservatives whose "difference of opinion" has always dictated that the country stay in a perpetual state of backwardness.

Quite.

Where my best buddy lives, sheriff's deputies not only look the other way when gays are beat up, they occasional run interference so no one butts in. On election day, the counties there are so red the stripes on the flag seem a pale blush.

These two facts are not unrelated.