14 Dead in Colorado "Dark Knight" Theater Shooting

[gsdx]

I missed it the first read-through, but it was a midnight show. Why in hell do parents take little children to a midnight show? Whatever happened to babysitters?

 

[fetaby]

The shooter has been identified...

James Holmes, 24, identified as suspect in deadly mass shooting at Aurora, Colorado, movie theater - CBS News

 

[pat grimshaw]

American men and their guns—

As Ye Sew, So Must Ye Reap

 

[ChickenGuy]

I hear that Warner Bros have pulled the promotional trailer for upcoming movie 'Gangster Squad' from cinemas. At the start of watching it I wasn't sure what the fuss was about, but then I saw the sequence starting just after 1:55. Talk about a terrible coincidence of events. This was due for release in just a few weeks time. I wonder if they'll postpone it's release?

 

[ronboy]

I woke up to this news this morning.
"Good Morning America" devoted most of their broadcast to it.

What makes this even more tragic are the stories surrounding it.
PeTe's link about the girl from Toronto who survived the Eaton Centre shootingsn but not this one...
And this happened about 15 miles away from where the Columbine High School massacre happened.....

It is all just a very sad statement about our society's ills today.

 

[refujiunderground]

damn, damn, damn james. crazy ass 80 babies, man. i hate to say this but why can't these mass shooting monsters turn the guns on themselves? if you want to kill yourself, fine. don't take anybody else with you because you hate yourself.

 

[BFizzle]

But why on Dark Knight Rises opening? Does it have a special meaning? Or was the man influenced by Joker somehow? (serious question here).

As soon as I read the details of story that was my first thought. I don't know, the tear gas and the mask just made it sound like he thought he was some kind of thug out of the Arkham games.

I really can't even find the word for how reading this story made me feel. It just wilted my spirits that one man could do such a random, senseless, and horrible act that affects an entire nation. So sad and unnecessary.

 

[syntax]

(And don't forget or leave out the FIFTY - 50 - additional wounded, boys).

Aurora, Colorado is a dump.

I've been there and its just a mess of a so-called "suburb". Its total ghetto and sprawling nothingness of every junk mall life thing one could ever think of.

Colorado in general - Denver area - is an over-rated dump, in fact. Its a real mess of a city and state full of social problems OBVIOUSLY.

I don't normally knock entire states or metro areas. But Colorado is just a violent, weird mess made all the weirder because it continues to have some unwarranted reputation as being a place to live.

I would NEVER EVER live in Colorado.

And while these things happen "everywhere" (or so Colorado would like everyone to think), the psycho mass killings there cannot be denied. Another Columbine was just waiting to happen because the populace there is weird and Colorado never much took that tragedy seriously (or as seriously as it should have).

Also, the entire Aurora, CO, area being a mess has this University of Colorado situated out there which is so busy being a for profit money-making b.s. hospital that it denies that its gentrification of a meth and ghetto section of the state just doesn't work. Its an isolated island that is in a world of its own full of tens of millions of dollars of western paintings, for-profit flower shops and every "research" doctor taking huge pharmaceutical company monies as they conduct "clinical trials" on everyone they think is expendable.

I don't exactly have the brain power to respond here rightbnow. I'll just say I've seen more love, beauty and compassion here in Denver - and even in Aurora - than 100 such incidents could overwhelm.

Lex

Allow me Lex: Fuck your selfish and insensitive post in response to a horrific act of violence, hungkee.

I would NEVER EVER live in Colorado.

Good news for Colorado.

 

[Taralen]

What kind of sick mother fucker would do such a thing like this.

At a Batman movie? Are you serious? This asshole is really fucked in the head.

Prayers for all those who are no longer with us.

 

[Callum]

The "social problems" of Colorado (which may or may not exist, I have no idea) aren't worth discussing here because the perpetrator wasn't from Colorado. He spent his entire life in California. He completed his undergraduate degree in California and his first graduate degree. He was only in Colorado for his PhD (which he dropped out of last month).

This man wasn't a victim of "social problems".

 

[star-warrior]

It saddens me to hear that. Every time a shooting happens and people die, it makes one wonder, when another will happen and where, and why something never gets done. It'll be only a matter of time before another one happens. Its depressing.

 

[refujiunderground]

The "social problems" of Colorado (which may or may not exist, I have no idea) aren't worth discussing here because the perpetrator wasn't from Colorado. He spent his entire life in California. He completed his undergraduate degree in California and his first graduate degree. He was only in Colorado for his PhD (which he dropped out of last month).

This man wasn't a victim of "social problems".

yeah, on point with what you said.

honestly, i don't think this is a matter of gun control anymore. even if gun control was in the mix and it MIGHT decrease the number of incidents like these. i don't think it's going to decrease the level of "crazy" guys out here feeling the need to hurt others for whatever reason. i also think we need to start reassessing the word crazy as well. we have people that do crazy things but aren't crazy. we have people that do crazy things because they are crazy. i think the huge problem is that we have people that think that taking out their anger through violence is normal. we also accept this mentality where we minimize the value of human life and people around us which is no different to how sociopaths think.

i've noticed how the whole psychiatric/psychology realm is becoming a serious joke nowadays too where we pretty much sympathize with people who knowingly do things like these and then turn around and pull the "crazy" card. it seems like they're trying to find something wrong with everybody. the other day i was listening to the radio and they had some bullshit disorder called "working shift disorder" and they tried to advertise a new prescription medication along with that. they're letting money run the psychiatric/psychological field where they're trying to normalize crazy. you know, i read something just now about when they came to arrest this guy and he was telling the police that he was the joker. i HOPE that they really give this guy a strict psychological evaluation where they really find out if this guy is crazy or just faking it. they're making the definition of crazy way too broad where people are not being held accountable for their actions like that other "crazy" shooter in arizona. there are plenty of people with legitimate mental disorders that do not run into movie theaters gunning people down. if you have an understanding behind your actions, no matter how crazy or what you may have, you should be held accountable for what you did. i just think it's fucked up that he's already trying to grip the whole "mental illness" card because he knows how this country is.

 

[hungkee]

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The metal detector solution was relative more to the event at the New Mexico movie theater than to this Aurora, CO tragedy.

I think that if concealed weapons are permitted by the state but a business bars their entry or presence, then the business has a right to secure its position. I think that to not allow for a minimal metal detector in such an instance is to deny or undermine the rights of the business to conduct their business as they best see fit (and for its own liability and the safety of its own patrons).

More than just gun owners have rights, you know.

 

[hungkee]

The "social problems" of Colorado (which may or may not exist, I have no idea) aren't worth discussing here because the perpetrator wasn't from Colorado. He spent his entire life in California. He completed his undergraduate degree in California and his first graduate degree. He was only in Colorado for his PhD (which he dropped out of last month).

This man wasn't a victim of "social problems".

It happened in Colorado. It didn't happen in San Diego. So the social ills IN Colorado are a very real "observation". He was a resident of Colorado at the time of the shooting. And he chose Colorado to be his killing field.

As you mention, he was raised in San Diego. And as such he could have gotten on a plane or in a car, returned to his home town and committed this act there.

But he didn't.

Colorado, for the most part is full of transplants from other places. And as such, what its residents do there is a reflection of Colorado.

 

[hungkee]

Allow me Lex: Fuck your selfish and insensitive post in response to a horrific act of violence, hungkee.



Good news for Colorado.

Colorado sucks - in my opinion. Aurora is trashy. And I'm sorry but Denver is over-rated and full of problems (which its residents like to deny).

 

[Callum]

It happened in Colorado. It didn't happen in San Diego. So the social ills IN Colorado are a very real "observation". He was a resident of Colorado at the time of the shooting. And he chose Colorado to be his killing field.

As you mention, he was raised in San Diego. And as such he could have gotten on a plane or in a car, returned to his home town and committed this act there.

But he didn't.

Colorado, for the most part is full of transplants from other places. And as such, what its residents do there is a reflection of Colorado.

That's fine logic and all, but PhDs are extremely stressful. I would be inclined to believe a personality issue and PhD stress made him snap. Not Colorado.

 

[refujiunderground]

It happened in Colorado. It didn't happen in San Diego. So the social ills IN Colorado are a very real "observation". He was a resident of Colorado at the time of the shooting. And he chose Colorado to be his killing field.

As you mention, he was raised in San Diego. And as such he could have gotten on a plane or in a car, returned to his home town and committed this act there.

But he didn't.

Colorado, for the most part is full of transplants from other places. And as such, what its residents do there is a reflection of Colorado.

the same could be said about the state of new jersey or any other state.

i don't see how the social problems of an area explains this. this is entirely different and this could have happened anywhere. do you seriously think that you're safer in south dakota than in colorado when there's plenty of people that have the same mentality this guy does walking on the street?

 

[hungkee]

That's fine logic and all, but PhDs are extremely stressful. I would be inclined to believe a personality issue and PhD stress made him snap. Not Colorado.

But as they're implying, some of it may be the result of something gone terribly wrong at the University of COLORADO medical school where he was doing his studies (and from where he just "dropped out" last month - for yet to be disclosed reasons).

So there is the great possibility that while a PHD candidate in neuroscience goes berserk (maybe its why he was so interested in the brain to begin with), there still is likely some influence or issue which transpired specifically at U of COLORADO in...COLORADO...where he lived...in COLORADO and attended school...in COLORADO...and from where he dropped out...in COLORADO and where he then went on a rampage...in COLORADO.

 

[hungkee]

the same could be said about the state of new jersey or any other state.

i don't see how the social problems of an area explains this. this is entirely different and this could have happened anywhere. do you seriously think that you're safer in south dakota than in colorado when there's plenty of people that have the same mentality this guy does walking on the street?

It could have happened anywhere. And these massacres have happened elsewhere.

That said, this one happened in Aurora, CO. And for anyone who has ever been there, its no major surprise - since the Denver area is pretty weird and has a history of mass gun slayings.

Of course, they happen in Toronto and other places. But the m.o. of other such slaughters tend to be a bit different than what COLORADO produces. COLORADO seems to produce these "fun" or "thrill" killers who are young white men who think that they live in some video game or movie.

That's a bit different than those who might commit similar massacres for political or even gang/drug-related reasons.

 

[Callum]

But as they're implying, some of it may be the result of something gone terribly wrong at the University of COLORADO medical school where he was doing his studies (and from where he just "dropped out" last month - for yet to be disclosed reasons).

So there is the great possibility that while a PHD candidate in neuroscience goes berserk (maybe its why he was so interested in the brain to begin with), there still is likely some influence or issue which transpired specifically at U of COLORADO in...COLORADO...where he lived...in COLORADO and attended school...in COLORADO...and from where he dropped out...in COLORADO and where he then went on a rampage...in COLORADO.

Are you implying, as I can deduce, that the Virginia Tech massacre was also a result/reaction to social ills in Virginia? Or are you just hating on Colorado?

Please, your logic is extremely shaky.