19 senators support Biden's efforts on Planned Parenthood

[BostonPirate]

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, along with 18 other Democratic senators, penned a letter Wednesday in support of Vice President Joe Biden's effort to maintain government subsidies for Planned Parenthood in the final budget negotiations for the 2011 funding bill.

The group said a Republican-led proposal to de-fund the organization would harm the economy.

"This ideological agenda cloaked in a budget document isn't even good fiscal policy....As a matter of creating jobs and bolstering the economy, this rider would have the opposite effect: not only will health centers be forced to close but many uninsured women and their families also may go without care, become more ill, and be kept away from their jobs," the senators wrote.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ns-efforts-on-planned-parenthood/#more-150546

This effort is goiong on as Moveon.org's efforts continue to expose the facts that defunding planned parenthood will cause vast amounts of unplanned pregnancies and as many as half a million abortions a year in america.

34 senators spell a protected veto from the president, and I am sure there are non signers like Kusinich who will block this action as well.

The republicans are using the House of Representatives as a political tool, and It offends me.

They are NOT interested in creating legislation that can pass the senate and the president. They MAY not be capable.

 

[Kulindahr]

Defunding doesn't cause pregnancies.

Personally I think they should offer a compromise: cut Planned Parenthood funding by 2.5%.

 

[BostonPirate]

Defunding doesn't cause pregnancies.

Personally I think they should offer a compromise: cut Planned Parenthood funding by 2.5%.

No longer paying for birth control will. Be realistic. I see what you are saying, BUT....

You are grossly underestimating teenage hormones. You can blame the parents of unwanted pregnancy, but it wont fix the societal problems the pregnancies will create.

 

[Kulindahr]

No longer paying for birth control will. Be realistic. I see what you are saying, BUT....

You are grossly underestimating teenage hormones. You can blame the parents of unwanted pregnancy, but it wont fix the societal problems the pregnancies will create.

I don't underestimate anyone's hormones. I figure the 2.5% cut could be made up in private funding, and Republicans could pat themselves on the back for having cut back that horrid social meddling.

 

[BostonPirate]

I don't underestimate anyone's hormones. I figure the 2.5% cut could be made up in private funding, and Republicans could pat themselves on the back for having cut back that horrid social meddling.

what groups have come forward and offered that funding? Got anything more than a feeling?

If its just a guess, its not a bad idea in principle, but I don't see the feasablility. If we didn't have such high unemployment issues, I would agree.

 

[Kulindahr]

We have an all-classical music station that runs on just donations. There's also a clinic that runs half on donations.

I figure if they can do it, P.P. can do it.

 

[BostonPirate]

We have an all-classical music station that runs on just donations. There's also a clinic that runs half on donations.

I figure if they can do it, P.P. can do it.

that clinic also runs on half what else? Insurance money, gov't funding, or private patient payments?

 

[Kulindahr]

that clinic also runs on half what else? Insurance money, gov't funding, or private patient payments?

A private endowment, insurance payments, patient payments, and some county funding. They lost state funding when the state budget headed into the swamp.

 

[BostonPirate]

A private endowment, insurance payments, patient payments, and some county funding. They lost state funding when the state budget headed into the swamp.

so it does need corporate and tax dollars to function.

Endowments are incredible instruments for non profits. They can be ravaged if mishandled though, as they are usually dependent upon stock market investments of some kind.

Planned parenthood is not a bad investment. IF we spend one dollar on birth control it saves us four on WIC.

one dollar paid to save four... net three dolllars on our overall economy. Nothing to sneeze at.

as with all things, we are probably both right and wrong to some degree. Although I don't like it, it could probably function with a bit less funding.

Lets be clear here, though.. this is NOT a budget issue. The cuts will bring about an explosion of unwanted pregnancies, alot of abortions, and alot of wic funds spending.

IF thats a cultural issue you think its important for america to pay for, then just lay that down that way.... I know libertarians don't care for gov't funding of help for citizens.

So where are we going to get the funds for the situation that the cuts will create?

More donations?

 

[Kulindahr]

so it does need corporate and tax dollars to function.

Endowments are incredible instruments for non profits. They can be ravaged if mishandled though, as they are usually dependent upon stock market investments of some kind.

"Corporate"? If you mean insurance payments, those are from the patients, by contract.

This endowment has been there a while -- before Reagan, I know. And the rules for its investment are very conservative.

The county funds come because it's easier than the county building a separate county health clinic up there (we're one strung-out county here).

Lets be clear here, though.. this is NOT a budget issue. The cuts will bring about an explosion of unwanted pregnancies, alot of abortions, and alot of wic funds spending.

IF thats a cultural issue you think its important for america to pay for, then just lay that down that way.... I know libertarians don't care for gov't funding of help for citizens.

So where are we going to get the funds for the situation that the cuts will create?

More donations?

Of course it isn't a budget issue -- if they were interested in the budget, they would have let the tax cuts on the wealthy expire and be demanding a complete and thorough audit of military spending while addressing big-budget items like Social Security. Instead they're picking on the vulnerable.

Until we get our heads on straight and go to land-rent with dividends, taxes will have to take care of some basic support items.

And while we're in a situation that the rich and powerful have gotten us into, the tax on the rich, along with anyone who's been in Congress from two years ago to thirty years ago, should go to 90%. They did it to us; let them pay for it.