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1933: the Bush Coup that almost happened

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Bush's Grandfather Planned Fascist Coup In America

New investigation sheds light on clique of powerbrokers, including Prescott Bush, who sought to overthrow U.S. government and implement Hitlerian policies

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, July 24, 2007

A BBC Radio 4 investigation sheds new light on a major subject that has received little historical attention, the conspiracy on behalf of a group of influential powerbrokers, led by Prescott Bush, to overthrow FDR and implement a fascist dictatorship in the U.S. based around the ideology of Mussolini and Hitler.

In 1933, Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler was approached by a wealthy and secretive group of industrialists and bankers, including Prescott Bush the current President's grandfather, who asked him to command a 500,000 strong rogue army of veterans that would help stage a coup to topple then President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

According to the BBC, the plotters intended to impose a fascist takeover and "Adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression."

The conspirators were operating under the umbrella of a front group called the American Liberty League, which included many families that are still household names today, including Heinz, Colgate, Birds Eye and General Motors.

Butler played along with the clique to determine who was involved but later blew the whistle and identified the ringleaders in testimony given to the House Committee on un-American Activities.

However, the Committee refused to even question any of the individuals named by Butler and his testimony was omitted from the record, leading to charges that they were involved in covering the matter up, and the majority of the media blackballed the story.

General Smedley Butler, author of the famous quote "war is a racket", exposed the fascist plotters but was subsequently demonized and shunned by the government and the media.

In 1936, William Dodd, the U.S. Ambassador to Germany, wrote a letter to President Roosevelt in which he stated,

"A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime.... A prominent executive of one of the largest corporations, told me point blank that he would be ready to take definite action to bring fascism into America if President Roosevelt continued his progressive policies. Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there. Propagandists for fascist groups try to dismiss the fascist scare. We should be aware of the symptoms. When industrialists ignore laws designed for social and economic progress they will seek recourse to a fascist state when the institutions of our government compel them to comply with the provisions."

The proven record of Prescott Bush's involvement in financing the Nazi war machine dovetails with the fact that he was part of a criminal cabal that actively sought to impose a fascist coup in America.

Prescott did not succeed but many would argue that two generations down the line the mission has all but been accomplished.

In his documentary film Martial Law, Alex Jones interviews John Buchanan, who was instrumental in uncovering the documents tying Prescott Bush to the financing of the Third Reich. Watch a clip above. The subject is also covered in Alex's upcoming film, End Game, which includes rare video of Smedley Butler's testimony.


comments from Andreus.... this would only be an interesting footnote in history if the modern american government led by a Bush hadnt actually enacted so many fascist regime style controls on the american public.

I wonder what history and the future will think of the Bush dynasty when it is considered in its entirety and that this act seems to be its foundation

very very interesting
 
Re: 1933: the Busah Coup that almost happened

This is what I have referring to Prescott Bush. It's a long read and I'm not sure the link is still good. I saved the page and it is working for me. So here's hopes.

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
 
Re: 1933: the Busah Coup that almost happened

So far I'm past 1933 and it's all about GHWBush's father, grandfather and father in law.
 
Re: 1933: the Busah Coup that almost happened

Bush Fulfills His Grandfather's Dream
Sunday, 29 July 2007 by David Swanson


It's remarkably common for a grandson to take up his grandfather's major project. This occurred to me when I read recently of Thor Heyerdahl's grandson taking up his mission to cross the Pacific on a raft. But what really struck me was the BBC story aired on July 23rd documenting President George W. Bush's grandfather's involvement in a 1933 plot to overthrow the U.S. government and install a fascist dictatorship. I knew the story, but had not considered the possibility that the grandson was trying to accomplish what his grandfather had failed to achieve.

Prescott Sheldon Bush (1895 to 1972) attended Yale University and joined the secret society known as Skull and Bones. Prescott is widely reported to have stolen the skull of Native American leader Geronimo. As far as I know, this has not actually been confirmed. In fact, Prescott seems to have had a habit of making things up. He sent letters home from World War I claiming he'd received medals for heroism. After the letters were printed in newspapers, he had to retract his claims.

If this does not yet sound like the life of a George W. Bush ancestor, try this on for size: Prescott Bush's early business efforts tended to fail. He married the daughter of a very rich man named George Herbert Walker (the guy with the compound at Kennebunkport , Maine , that now belongs to the Bush family, and the origin of Dubya's middle initial). Walker installed Prescott Bush as an executive in Thyssen and Flick. From then on, Prescott 's business dealings went better, and he entered politics.

Now, the name Thyssen comes from a German named Fritz Thyssen, major financial backer of the rise of Adolph Hitler. Thyssen was referred to in the New York Herald-Tribune as "Hitler's Angel." During the 1930s and early 1940s, and even as late as 1951, Prescott Bush was involved in business dealings with Thyssen, and was inevitably aware of both Thyssen's political activities and the fact that the companies involved were financially benefiting the nation of Germany. In addition, the companies Prescott Bush profited from included one engaged in mining operations in Poland using slave labor from Auschwitz . Two former slave laborers have sued the U.S. government and the heirs of Prescott Bush for $40 billion.

Until the United States entered World War II it was legal for Americans to do business with Germany , but in late 1942 Prescott Bush's businesses interests were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act. Among those businesses involved was the Hamburg America Lines, for which Prescott Bush served as a manager. A Congressional committee, in a report called the McCormack-Dickstein Report, found that Hamburg America Lines had offered free passage to Germany for journalists willing to write favorably about the Nazis, and had brought Nazi sympathizers to America . (Is this starting to remind anyone of our current president's relationship to the freedom of the press?)

The McCormack-Dickstein Committee was established to investigate a homegrown American fascist plot hatched in 1933. Here's how the BBC promoted its recent story:
"Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen. The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America , (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression. Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy."​
Actually, if you listen to the 30-minute BBC story, there is not one word of so much as speculation as to why this story is so little known. I think a clue to the answer can be found by looking into why this BBC report has not led to any U.S. media outlets picking up the story this week.

The BBC report provides a good account of the basic story. Some of the wealthiest men in America approached Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, beloved of many World War I veterans, many of them embittered by the government's treatment of them. Prescott Bush's group asked Butler to lead 500,000 veterans in a take-over of Washington and the White House. Butler refused and recounted the affair to the congressional committee. His account was corroborated in part by a number of witnesses, and the committee concluded that the plot was real. But the names of wealthy backers of the plot were blacked out in the committee's records, and nobody was prosecuted. According to the BBC, President Roosevelt cut a deal. He refrained from prosecuting some of the wealthiest men in America for treason. They agreed to end Wall Street's opposition to the New Deal.

Clearly the lack of accountability in Washington, D.C., did not begin with Nancy Pelosi taking Dubya's impeachment off the table, or with Congress' decision to avoid impeachment for President Ronald Reagan (a decision that arguably played a large role in installing Prescott Bush's son George H.W. Bush as president), or with the failure to investigate the apparent deal that George H.W. Bush and others made with Iran to not release American hostages until Reagan was made president, or with the failure to prosecute Richard Nixon after he resigned. Lack of accountability is a proud tradition in our nation's capital. Or maybe I should say our former nation's capital. I don't recognize the place anymore, and I credit that to George W. Bush's efforts to fulfill his grandfather's dream using far subtler and more effective means than a military coup.

Bush the grandson took office through a highly fraudulent election that he nonetheless lost. The Supreme Court blocked a recount of the vote and installed Dubya.

Prescott 's grandson proceeded to weaken or eliminate most of the Bill of Rights in the name of protection from a dark foreign enemy. He even tossed out habeas corpus. The grandson of Prescott, that dreamer of the 1930s, established with very little resistance that the U.S. government can kidnap, detain indefinitely on no charge, torture, and murder. The United States under Prescott Bush's grandson adopted policies that heretofore had been considered only Nazi policies, most strikingly the willingness to openly plan and engage in aggressive wars on other nations.

At the same time, Dubya has accomplished a huge transfer of wealth within the United States from the rest of us to the extremely wealthy. He's also effected a major privatization of public operations, including the military. And he's kept tight control over the media.

Dubya has given himself the power to rewrite all laws with signing statements. He's established that intentionally misleading the Congress about the need for a war is not a crime that carries any penalty. He's given himself the right (just as Hitler did) to open anyone's mail. He's created illegal spying programs and then proposed to legalize them. Prescott would be so proud!

The current President Bush has accomplished much more smoothly than his grandfather could have imagined a feat that was one of the goals of Prescott 's gang, namely the elimination of Congress.
 
Re: 1933: the Busah Coup that almost happened

heres the wikipedia link to the historical data....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

i am guessing that you need to do alot of investigative work to find out who the "businessmen" were in the plot

astounding stuff really, but the nation was in the grips of the depression and it had far more important things to focus on at the time

So the Bush family has been political parasites for seventyfive years... living off the fears of the nation and trying to gain control of the nation through them

wow
 
So far I cannot find the 1933 coup you refer to but my God, They have been busy working with the Nazis. I'm not even half thru this book. It is covering the Europe side around the same times. Going back to Bush1's father and father-in-law and just about everyone in DC. Racism, sterilizing, killings, connections with Auschiwz (sp). Unbelievable.
 
its alot of scary stuff that we have never heard about before now

how could all of this been hidden in the history books
 
Oh! But can't you hear the 20? "Ancient history. . . move on." "Propaganda." "Lies." There certainly appears to be something to the Nazi tie-in, at least!
 
very very interesting

Yep. What's also interesting is how history seems to have plunged this into the depths of what is not talked about in the history books, so that the only ones who will actually dredge up this precedessor to the kind of fascist antics we're seeing now will be the "conspiracy theorists".

This should have been *MUST* reading for every high school student from the end of the war to the current day, because if it had neither George H. W. Bush, nor George W. Bush would have ever come anywhere close to being president.
 
well i have to say that it will be hard this time

the BBC is neither prone to liberal propaganda nor conspiracy theories

they are really rather detatched in their approach to reporting and analysis

maybe it took someone outside of america to bring ot to the attention of the rest of us

it really is amazing stuff to read

the idea that the Bush crowd attempted a military coup to install a fascist regime is ASTOUNDING

i am not fond of conspiracies

not at all

this is the real deal

this seems to have really happened... the congress investigated it and it is just a matter of record
 
In going thru the link I posted I found a reference that is supposed to link one of the bushes to JFK assn. I know there are a lot of conspiracy theories to JFK and I haven't read this one, but it reminded me about a documentary I got recently. The name is "JFK and BUSH FAMILY CONNECTION". I only partially watched it and it hasn't gotten to the connection but seeing all the people involved in everything, at this point I wouldn't doubt anything.
 
Andreus said:
i am not fond of conspiracies

Perhaps. But don't think that the right wing crazies that make up the remaining 25-6% of Bush's support won't let that stop you from calling you a conspiracy theorist just the same. The trick is, whether or not the rest of the 74-5%, including the recently added "moderates", will let that charge stick. I swear, some of them are so scared of their own shadows, that it manifests itself. The right wing has been running the country for nearly 7 years, and I'm not so sure that they're out of power in the Congress. All it takes is a few people afraid of a label to make the remaining plurality slaves to the mudslingers and those lacking a backbone.

The BBC's influence on America, if there at all, has been very slow and very cumulative over the past decade or so. Let's hope that this trend continues, to the point that the media takes a few hints from them, and when I say that, I don't mean that twit Jeremy Paxman.
 
its alot of scary stuff that we have never heard about before now

how could all of this been hidden in the history books

Because all of the right wing kooks bought each and every history book that contained any reference to this dastardly deed and burned them! So now, we'll never know!:rolleyes:
 
Well what is it that they say? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it?

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

--- Abraham Lincoln 1864
 
I was searching the Bush Crime Family when this article on the Bush - Clinton
dynasty showed up.

Is it true?
Does anyone know if the Bushes and Clintons are on the same page?
It says that the Bushes and Clintons used to vacation together.


http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com
The Bush-Clinton Dynasty
by Chuck Baldwin
July 17, 2007

A news item appeared in the Financial Times last Friday that received little notice. However, the hidden story behind this report is much deeper and more complex. The FT report stated: "John Mack, Morgan Stanley's chief executive, is to invite senior staff to a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton on Monday [yesterday], in a pointed endorsement of the Democratic presidential hopeful from an important backer of President George W. Bush in 2004.

"Mrs. Clinton, a New York senator, is scheduled to appear at the fundraiser on the 41st floor of Morgan Stanley's headquarters in Times Square.

"The minimum donation for the event is $1000 per person but Mr. Mack urged those attending to give $4,600, the maximum for the 2008 presidential campaign.

"Mr. Mack surprised many on Wall Street in the spring when he said he and his wife, Christy, would support Mrs. Clinton's 2008 bid."

John Mack is not the first Bush supporter to jump on the Hillary bandwagon. Neither will he be the last.

That wealthy and influential supporters of G.W. Bush are now supporting Hillary Clinton only surprises those who have not been paying attention. For the rest of us, this is merely par for the course.

The Bushes and Clintons go way back. They have been fast friends for decades. Only a closely guarded media cover up has hidden this fact from the general public.

As you will recall, George H.W. Bush was President of the United States while William Jefferson Clinton was Governor of Arkansas. During this time, it was very common for the two families (along with G.W. Bush and Laura) to vacation together. This is well-known to those who are familiar with the two families.

Yet, the connection between the Bushes and Clintons is much deeper than simple friendship. They share a deep socio-political alliance as well.

Remember that it was President Bill Clinton who first proposed what came to be called the USA Patriot Act. Of course, he failed to convince a GOP Congress to approve the measure. However, G.W. Bush succeeded where Clinton failed. Remember, too, that it was President Bill Clinton who gave us NAFTA, something G.W. Bush has not only supported but expanded into the SPP and a burgeoning North American Community. Furthermore, both Bush and Clinton are major players in the push for amnesty for illegal aliens. And the list just goes on and on.

Face it folks: the Bushes and Clintons are political soul mates. Therefore, why should it be surprising that many Bush supporters are now working for the Hillary Clinton campaign?

To believe that the Bushes and Clintons are political and philosophical opponents is the height of absurdity. Both have the support and do the bidding of the international elite. Both families are imbedded in secret societies and globalist agendas. And mark my words, the Bushes will be working behind the scenes for a Hillary victory in 2008.

I will even be so bold as to say that the Bushes and Clintons are as close as America has gotten to a crime family dynasty. If you are brave at heart, do a little personal research into the connection between these two families and the CIA's infamous "extra curricular" C-130 flights to Central and South America originating in and out of Mena, Arkansas back in the '80's and early '90's.

Barak Obama needs to pray he doesn't get too close to the Democratic nomination. And the American people need to pray for a "Great Awakening," because another four or eight years of the Bush-Clinton dynasty might turn this once-great constitutional republic into just another banana republic.

© Chuck Baldwin

This column is archived as http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20070717.html
 
I don't know how you expect to believe him. He's a pastor of a Baptist church, leader in the Moral Majority, staunch supporter of boy george. That's enough for me to say Bullshit. Bullshit I say!!
 
it is interesting that the far right and the far left would both be consumed by the globalist one world conspiracy theories.It is an interesting point to put Clinton and George Herbert Walker Bush as pretty much ideological soulmates deep down ....because Clinton supported NAFTA(as opposed to rigid protectionist that would in the end screw the American public with artificcial higher prices and screw the poorer nations of this hemisphere),for example?I didn't love Clinton,but he certainly wasn't motivated by an allegiance to a global superstate supplanting our freedom as an independent nation.

Though the sources for Bush's family seem more credible,and if remotely close to the truth....they have a ton to account for.
 
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