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On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[*]Spain - 7,844 (up from 6,391 cases yesterday) - 292 deaths

Spain - 9191 - 309 deaths - 530 recovered - 432 in ICU
Higher increase than Italy at the same point of the epidemic.

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As someone pointed above, if "socialist Europe"'s outlook is screwed with the sanitary system they have, the overpriced and inefficient American system...
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Spain - 9191 - 309 deaths - 530 recovered - 432 in ICU
Higher increase than Italy at the same point of the epidemic.
I've been trying to pull stats at the same time each day to get a good sample for trending but I've been noticing that the reported numbers from some countries have been lagging. Quite often the WHO site is delayed, down or has a banner indicating that they're updating their database.

Things went bad in Spain quickly. The numbers that you gave are even worse than what WHO is reporting. They're not breaking down the cases in Spain into detail. Are the majority of the cases still in Madrid or has it spread to the eastern part of the country?

The situation in France is expected to get worse over the next couple of days. Northern Europe/Scandanavia have been hit hard over the weekend (so far their mortality has been lower than Italy). US public health officials are looking at the numbers and saying, "Uh oh". They're bracing because the US is about to start mass testing and they know we're about to get a clearer picture of what is actually happening in the US.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

I've been trying to pull stats at the same time each day to get a good sample for trending but I've been noticing that the reported numbers from some countries have been lagging. Quite often the WHO site is delayed, down or has a banner indicating that they're updating their database.

Things went bad in Spain quickly. The numbers that you gave are even worse than what WHO is reporting. They're not breaking down the cases in Spain into detail. Are the majority of the cases still in Madrid or has it spread to the eastern part of the country?

The situation in France is expected to get worse over the next couple of days. Northern Europe/Scandanavia have been hit hard over the weekend (so far their mortality has been lower than Italy). US public health officials are looking at the numbers and saying, "Uh oh". They're bracing because the US is about to start mass testing and they know we're about to get a clearer picture of what is actually happening in the US.

4165 in Madrid (213 dead) and 903 in Catalonia (12 dead), with a very similar population, but with one fourth or total area for Madrid. They stopped publishing the cases for Barcelona and his area a few days ago already: last Wednesday, when the total for Catalonia was 125, in Barcelona it was reported as being "over 70"... You bet at least half of those 900 are in the denser part of the BCN metro area, about 250 sq mi.

Today the second stupidest episode after the 3/8 marches: people who were going to work as exception to confinement were clotting mass transportation in Madrid and Barcelona, and the fact that some of them had advanced their travelling before the usual rush hour hardly served to make worse what was a disaster form the start.
So, while the surface was H-bomb scenery, at underground level the immediate future kept broiling...
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

sort of Breaking News:
Covid-19 kills the strong and healthy too (in Italy and China) at 10.10

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/progra...virus-only-kills-the-old-think-again/12058160

So, what people are getting confused about is mortality vs morbidity stats. Mortality is the population that dies. Morbidity is the population that gets sick.

The mortality group is overwhelming over 60 years of age. The risk of death for age 60-70 is about 3%, age 70-80 the risk is 8% and for those over 80, it jumps to 15%. The elderly die pretty quickly from pneumonia, especially if they are in poor health. For those under 60, the risk of dying drops to 1% or lower (which is still 100 times the risk for influenza).

The morbidity group is younger because they are getting sick but they aren't dying. France is reporting that more than half of their 300 coronavirus patients in intensive care are under the age of 60. Don't assume that because you are under 60 that you can't get very sick- especially if you are a smoker, a diabetic, HIV+ or if you have a chronic health condition. If you have a chronic health condition, you should be avoiding crowds and washing your hands frequently.

It's true that most healthy people who get sick are getting a high fever for a couple of days, along with a dry cough and extreme fatigue. What is worrisome is that the studies coming out of China indicate that these people with mild symptoms can shed virus for days or even weeks- which means that they can pass on the virus to people who aren't as healthy and who will get severely ill. That's why governments are trying to get people to stay home and avoid crowds- because the people who think they are healthy can still be transmitting the virus. The measures that China took to get people out of the public space are extreme but it worked- they stopped the spread of the virus... at least, so far they have.


4165 in Madrid (213 dead) and 903 in Catalonia (12 dead), with a very similar population, but with one fourth or total area for Madrid. They stopped publishing the cases for Barcelona and his area a few days ago already: last Wednesday, when the total for Catalonia was 125, in Barcelona it was reported as being "over 70"... You bet at least half of those 900 are in the denser part of the BCN metro area, about 250 sq mi.

Today the second stupidest episode after the 3/8 marches: people who were going to work as exception to confinement were clotting mass transportation in Madrid and Barcelona, and the fact that some of them had advanced their travelling before the usual rush hour hardly served to make worse what was a disaster form the start.
So, while the surface was H-bomb scenery, at underground level the immediate future kept broiling...
:##:

In the US, we have a few governors on the West Coast and Northeast are being very proactive to stop the Italy/France/Spain scenario from playing out. In the South, we have a lot of people who are still in denial because the testing numbers are still low. Thankfully, we don't have a lot mass transit in the Southwestern and Southern US, when compared to Boston, NYC and Washington DC. But people are still going to work, the gym and clearing out the stores of toilet paper. :rolleyes:

The Winter Party still happened in Miami as if nothing were happening in Florida, even though the mayor of Miami was at home in quarantine because he was exposed last weekend and has mild cold symptoms.
 
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From a reliable tabloid :mrgreen: :cool:
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

"Unknown locations"? WTF does that mean?
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Our governor has closed all bars and restaurants. With the emergency funding, the state has also started the process of reopening closed hospitals.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

...The Winter Party still happened in Miami as if nothing were happening in Florida, even though the mayor of Miami was at home in quarantine because he was exposed last weekend and has mild cold symptoms.

And of course...
I am writing to let you know that on Saturday night (the 14th), I was informed that one of our Winter Party Festival (WPF) guests has tested positive for COVID-19 this last week. We are grateful to them for alerting us, particularly given that they were not experiencing symptoms during WPF. While we know there are many places people could have been exposed before and after Winter Party as this virus has developed, we wanted to make sure you have this information as soon as possible. The health and safety of anyone who participates in any Task Force event is of great

 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

So... the government is shutting down restaurants around here. A local Chinese restaurant's owner is a friend of ours. He was giving out food from the restaurant to his friends and family. Well, we got a box of broccoli and a box of eggs.

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On the other hand, husband was doing grocery shopping today and he sent me this picture.

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Good thing we have a freezer full of frozen meat and (if it comes to it) 4 dogs, one of which is about 120 lb.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

...Good thing we have a freezer full of frozen meat and (if it comes to it) 4 dogs, one of which is about 120 lb.
Well, and each other. :twisted:

Donner, party of one...?
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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On the other hand, husband was doing grocery shopping today and he sent me this picture.

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Good thing we have a freezer full of frozen meat and (if it comes to it) 4 dogs, one of which is about 120 lb.


But, you're in the good ol' USA.

Do you have the guns and ammo to be able to keep your stash and pooches?

If the current grocery situation lasts much longer, there will be gunplay. And all sorts of robberies.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

But, you're in the good ol' USA.

Do you have the guns and ammo to be able to keep your stash and pooches?

If the current grocery situation lasts much longer, there will be gunplay. And all sorts of robberies.

Unfortunately, my husband doesn't like guns and so won't allow me to have any in the house.

Our current house is completely surrounded by a brick wall and steel gates, though. If coronavirus turns out to be the beginning of a zombie outbreak, I'm barricading the gates and prepare to fight to the death.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Trump made it sound like the test was unpleasant to have done. One time he should have lied
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

The US is two weeks behind Italy.

ABC is doing informative show.

Applause to Dr. Jen Ashton. She's been everywhere on ABC
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Ive heard shortness of breath is the thing to watch for . . that a person has the virus

40% of Americans only have $400 for an emergency - ABC NEWS

My sister must be going crazy (She's a Leo). My brother in law's tests result are not in yet.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

The US is two weeks behind Italy.

ABC is doing informative show.

Applause to Dr. Jen Ashton. She's been everywhere on ABC

There's no reason for every country to get like Italy. Places like Hong Kong and South Korea seem to have gotten it under control, so far anyway.
 
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