On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

[belamyi]

I can do one but I didn't know if anyone was really reading through them?

At least one does. But I still wodner if it's worth the trouble for one single person... or for two. Apart from yourself, that is.

 

[Telstra]

At least one does. But I still wodner if it's worth the trouble for one single person... or for two. Apart from yourself, that is.

I'm sure people look through which countries perform best.
So far China is the best preventing covid from spreading through 1.4 billion people.
No excuses for anyone to say, no they hide this they didn't tell us that non sense.

 

[Araucaria]

I can do one but I didn't know if anyone was really reading through them?

I for one, read through your posts. Though it's not pleasant reading, I take it upon myself to remind me what is happening with the Covid pandemic, and what is really going on in the world, and why we are taking all these steps to protect ourselves. I find it important reinforcement when all around me people are opening up too soon, and government officials and businesses are pretending the pandemic doesn't exist. Besides, you give us a world view, which we cannot readily get anywhere else. Thank you for your posts.

I'll admit that I will often read what would appear to be the "fun" posts first, though you can never tell, given the temperamental and capricious postings of the JUB curmudgeons. But I always make a point to look at the stats you post. It's clear that it's not even close to being over!

 

[belamyi]

I'm sure people look through which countries perform best.
So far China is the best preventing covid from spreading through 1.4 billion people.
No excuses for anyone to say, no they hide this they didn't tell us that non sense.

Yes, the poor Western world is prepared to deal with zombie apocalypses, brown religious zombies from the Middle Eastern desert, American lone wolves (relatively prepared), cyberterrorists... but not a damn virus finding its way in a beer-pong orgy.

 

[KaraBulut]

I for one, read through your posts. Though it's not pleasant reading...I'll admit that I will often read what would appear to be the "fun" posts first, though you can never tell, given the temperamental and capricious postings of the JUB curmudgeons. But I always make a point to look at the stats you post. It's clear that it's not even close to being over!

OK. I'll keep generating the report weekly with a summary. I have the data and it only takes about 10 mins to produce the report.

One thing that would be of interest to people who enjoy history is that pandemics show us a bit about ourselves. I knew that there were people who were living in an alternate reality. The pandemic has made us confront them and realize that we aren't always isolated from their foolish actions. It's also shown us how psychologically fragile a lot of people in our society are. I don't think we're going to be able to avoid dealing with our society's mental health issues. In the US, the ACA required that insurance plans cover mental health as a medical benefit, but the psychotherapy industry hasn't gotten its act together quite yet.

When I look the numbers, I see a mixed bag.

For example, voters in the US gathered enough wisdom to oust a President whose actions resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths. On the day when the last President was sent into retirement (20-Jan-2021), the US reported 199,048 news cases and 4,415 deaths in one day. If you look at the stats ending 8-May-2021, the US reported about 40,000 new cases per day with only 4,552 deaths for the entire week. That's a big improvement and it is a testament to what a competent government and an informed society can accomplish in just 120 days. One-third of the US population is now fully vaccinated. The vaccine has been approved for children 12 and older, so that number can expand as more of the population become eligible.

The bad news is that about 70% of the new cases in the US are testing positive for the UK variant and it's a younger population that are affected.

There's no good news for Brazil, Turkey and especially, India. India now has their own variant with over 400,000 news cases per day and an unknown number of patients dying- the estimates are between 5,000-7,000 deaths per day. The US had been in the #1 slot for months with 32,000,000+ cases. India is at 21,000,000+ cases. They'll overtake the US in total cases by this time next month.

 

[cityboy-stl]

They were all vaccinated with J&J. They talk about occasional breakthrough cases, but when 9 people together on the Yankees become infected it seems more than "occasional". But I'm glad no one is really sick so it appears to work in that respect. I assume Pfizer and Moderna are more effective at preventing infection from what they say. Bill Mahrer tested positive after vaccination as well but I don't know which one he got.

I'm keeping my mask on for a while.

A 9th vaccinated New York Yankees member tested positive for Covid-19 [CNN]

 

[belamyi]

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[Kulindahr]

I can do one but I didn't know if anyone was really reading through them?

At least one does. But I still wodner if it's worth the trouble for one single person... or for two. Apart from yourself, that is.

I'm sure people look through which countries perform best.

I for one, read through your posts. Though it's not pleasant reading, I take it upon myself to remind me what is happening with the Covid pandemic, and what is really going on in the world, and why we are taking all these steps to protect ourselves. I find it important reinforcement when all around me people are opening up too soon, and government officials and businesses are pretending the pandemic doesn't exist. Besides, you give us a world view, which we cannot readily get anywhere else. Thank you for your posts.

I'll admit that I will often read what would appear to be the "fun" posts first, though you can never tell, given the temperamental and capricious postings of the JUB curmudgeons. But I always make a point to look at the stats you post. It's clear that it's not even close to being over!

I have to admit I tend to scan for the big, bold numbers. For the overall, I'd rather see things in graphs -- lazy, probably, but I spent so much time in university courses turning data into graphs I prefer them.

BTW, thinking of things being over, I encountered an interesting viewpoint from a guy where the whole household is now vaccinated: he said he kind of hopes the situation will just keep going, because that means everyone will keep getting maximum food stamps -- his household gets about $900 more per month altogether at present and for them it means they've been paying off debts plus buying some things they'd long deferred.

 

[Kulindahr]

I look at that and see that the chance of herd immunity stopping this virus is long gone; we're stuck with it now.

It would be nice if it was possible to zoom in, though!

 

[belamyi]

I have to admit I tend to scan for the big, bold numbers. For the overall, I'd rather see things in graphs -- lazy, probably, but I spent so much time in university courses turning data into graphs I prefer them.

BTW, thinking of things being over, I encountered an interesting viewpoint from a guy where the whole household is now vaccinated: he said he kind of hopes the situation will just keep going, because that means everyone will keep getting maximum food stamps -- his household gets about $900 more per month altogether at present and for them it means they've been paying off debts plus buying some things they'd long deferred.

I look at that and see that the chance of herd immunity stopping this virus is long gone; we're stuck with it now.

It would be nice if it was possible to zoom in, though!

Yes, that's what I thought when they started excluding that possibility a few weeks ago. But you can always look at the older, zoomed-in versions I posted last winter

What do you mean with the first part of your comment? I would understand if you had said that on February 2020 but... after fifteen months? The "stuck with it" part I mean, of course, the herd immunity... wait... those graphs represent the evolution of the pandemic in my town, BCN city's "Jersey" If you are referring to the American negationists rebel punks helping the virus to keep spreading and mutating, you won't see that reflected in those diagrams, and it's somewhat far-fetched to infer it from them because, as I said, you did not even need the pandemic to extend for that long to come up with that idea.

 

[Kulindahr]

Yeah, the interesting thing will be to see how many households that are using this opportunity to improve their financial situations will avoid getting in debt again. Of course for many people, getting into debt is too often not a choice because it happens due to events beyond their control.

 

[Kulindahr]

BTW, the video behind that image is fun --

 

[belamyi]

Yeah, the interesting thing will be to see how many households that are using this opportunity to improve their financial situations will avoid getting in debt again. Of course for many people, getting into debt is too often not a choice because it happens due to events beyond their control.

Indeed: it's hard to chose the place and condition in which you are born, even more to flee away from it. Even more so in America, from which there is no better place to go...

I mean on Earth.

 

[KaraBulut]

Week ending 15-May-2021:

Global COVID-19 Weekly Mortality/Morbidity

• Global Cases reported: 162,203,982 (up from 157,263,259 / 3.1%) - *‬*4,940,723 new cases this week
• Global Deaths: 3,365,081 (up from 3,278,629) - **86,452 people died this week

US COVID-19 Weekly Mortality/Morbidity

• Cases reported in the US - 32,923,613 (up from 32,685,864 / 0.7%), +237,749 new cases, 4.8% of world's new cases were in the US
• Deaths reported in the US - 585,704 deaths, 4,193 deaths this week , 4.9% of the world's deaths this week were in the US
• Approx number of US residents vaccinated - 1st dose: - 156,217,367 (up from 151,315,505 / 4,901,862) - 47.34% of US population
• Approx number of US residents vaccinated - 2nd dose: - 121,768,268 (up from 112,626,771 / 9,141,497) - 36.90% of US population
• Approx number of US doses distributed - 344,503,395 (up from 329,840,055 / 14,663,340) - 78.6% of US doses have been administered

Coronavirus weekly cases/deaths in active countries (preference to countries with JUB members):

• India: 24,372,907 (up from 21,892,676 / +2,480,231 / 11.3%) - 266,207 deaths (+27,937) - avg daily: cases (+354,319) / deaths (+3,991)
• Brazil: 15,586,534 (up from 15,145,879 / +440,655 / 2.9%) - 434,715 deaths (+13,399) - avg daily: cases (+62,951) / deaths (+1,914)
• US: 32,923,613 (up from 32,685,864 / +237,749 / 0.7%) - 585,704 deaths (+4,193) - avg daily: cases (+33,964) / deaths (+599)
• Iran : 2,739,875 (up from 2,640,670 / +99,205 / 3.8%) - 76,633 deaths (+2,109) - avg daily: cases (+14,172) / deaths (+301)
• France : 5,925,071 (up from 5,829,166 / +95,905 / 1.6%) - 107,696 deaths (+1,258) - avg daily: cases (+13,701) / deaths (+180)
• Turkey: 5,106,862 (up from 5,016,141 / +90,721 / 1.8%) - 44,537 deaths (+1,791) - avg daily: cases (+12,960) / deaths (+256)
• Germany : 3,595,872 (up from 3,520,336 / +75,536 / 2.1%) - 86,100 deaths (+1,432) - avg daily: cases (+10,791) / deaths (+205)
• Russia: 4,875,308 (up from 4,816,331 / +58,977 / 1.2%) - 113,541 deaths (+2,444) - avg daily: cases (+8,425) / deaths (+349)
• Italy : 4,153,374 (up from 4,102,921 / +50,453 / 1.2%) - 124,063 deaths (+1,369) - avg daily: cases (+7,208) / deaths (+196)
• Japan: 679,870 (up from 635,568 / +44,302 / 7.0%) - 11,424 deaths (+628) - avg daily: cases (+6,329) / deaths (+90)
• Canada : 1,331,480 (up from 1,287,932 / +43,548 / 3.4%) - 24,884 deaths (+330) - avg daily: cases (+6,221) / deaths (+47)
• Netherlands : 1,620,702 (up from 1,580,299 / +40,403 / 2.6%) - 17,703 deaths (+125) - avg daily: cases (+5,772) / deaths (+18)
• Spain : 3,604,799 (up from 3,567,408 / +37,391 / 1.0%) - 79,339 deaths (+547) - avg daily: cases (+5,342) / deaths (+78)
• Sweden: 1,037,126 (up from 1,007,792 / +29,334 / 2.9%) - 14,275 deaths (+102) - avg daily: cases (+4,191) / deaths (+15)
• Mexico: 2,380,690 (up from 2,364,617 / +16,073 / 0.7%) - 220,384 deaths (+1,456) - avg daily: cases (+2,296) / deaths (+208)
• UK : 4,464,663 (up from 4,448,808 / +15,855 / 0.4%) - 127,937 deaths (+74) - avg daily: cases (+2,265) / deaths (+11)
• Belgium: 1,030,071 (up from 1,014,351 / +15,720 / 1.5%) - 24,686 deaths (+175) - avg daily: cases (+2,246) / deaths (+25)
• Switzerland : 679,510 (up from 670,613 / +8,897 / 1.3%) - 10,730 deaths (+26) - avg daily: cases (+1,271) / deaths (+4)
• South Korea : 131,671 (up from 127,309 / +4,362 / 3.4%) - 1,900 deaths (+26) - avg daily: cases (+623) / deaths (+4)
• Lebanon: 535,446 (up from 532,269 / +3,177 / 0.6%) - 7,602 deaths (+142) - avg daily: cases (+454) / deaths (+20)
• Ireland: 254,870 (up from 252,303 / +2,567 / 1.0%) - 4,941 deaths (+22) - avg daily: cases (+367) / deaths (+3)
• China: 102,717 (up from 102,613 / +104 / 0.1%) - 4,846 deaths (+0) - avg daily: cases (+15) / deaths (+0)
• Australia : 29,975 (up from 29,922 / +53 / 0.2%) - 910 deaths (+0) - avg daily: cases (+8) / deaths (+0)
• New Zealand: 2,646 (up from 2,642 / +4 / 0.2%) - 26 deaths (+0) - avg daily: cases (+1) / deaths (+0)

 

[cityboy-stl]

BTW, the video behind that image is fun --

It's not a "Non Stop Fountain" if you have to reset it every time the bottom "bot-ul' gets full or the middle "bot-ul' is empty.

 

[belamyi]

It's not a "Non Stop Fountain" if you have to reset it every time the bottom "bot-ul' gets full or the middle "bot-ul' is empty.

Just like national debt

 

[Pierresro]

I don't think its as big a deal as the media is playing it. Are you worried?

With your comment you should be very worrried if by now you have not seen or been around friends who have died.

 

[belamyi]

^ Like Spaniards would say: "Por Dios, qué pereza".

 

[belamyi]

Meanwhile, nightly seismic noise is back up in BCN...

 

[KaraBulut]

Last year, while Trump and his minions were running around without masks, there was a group of people getting sick, going to emergency rooms and running up large healthcare bills.

Hospitals are starting to take those people to court to collect.

'There's no way I can pay for this:' One of America's largest hospital chains has been suing thousands of patients during the pandemic [CNN]

...Community Health Systems, Inc., one of America's largest hospital chains, have filed at least 19,000 lawsuits against their patients over allegedly unpaid medical bills since March 2020, even as other hospitals around the country have moved to curtail similar lawsuits during the coronavirus pandemic, a CNN investigation found.

The company's 84 hospitals, which are concentrated in the South and stretch from Alaska to Key West, Florida, have taken their patients to court for as little as $201 and as much as $162,000. They say litigation is a last resort.

CNN's review of court filings across 16 states the company operates in found that most of the patients sued by CHS -- like Bull -- didn't hire a lawyer or fight the lawsuits, and judges often ruled in the company's favor by default. In some states, defendants' debts piled on with attorney's fees and interest. Elsewhere, the hospital chain's subsidiaries quickly moved to garnish defendants' paychecks after a judgment.