On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

[KaraBulut]

I just got back from grocery shopping. There must have been a dozen people in the store wearing a mask with their nose hanging out. It is unbelievably stupid that after all this time people are still wearing the mask improperly. I just mutter under my breath because I don't dare say anything to them. I'd probably get shot right there in the store.

Don't mutter. Promote.

 

[cityboy-stl]

^^ I need to get some!

 

[belamyi]

^ Preaching to the choir: no use for the pagans who can't read, or developed an allergy to reading.

 

[justaguy]

From a friend in the healthcare field, a relatively current snapshot of Ontario.

ONTARIO VACCINE ROLLOUT UPDATE #21:

Here's the latest vaccination and cases/hospitalization/ICU stats.
The updates have gotten a bit long in answering requests from some people, so, I'm not going to give all the vaccination numbers, just the percentages and any interesting trends. If you have any other stats questions, feel free to ask by commenting.
CANADA numbers:
74.4% of Canada's total population has received at least one dose and 68.3% are fully vaccinated.
85.4% of Canada's vaccine eligible population (12+) has received at least one dose and 78.4% are fully vaccinated.
ONTARIO numbers:
74.4% of Ontario's total population has received as least 1 dose and 68.8% are fully vaccinated.
85.0% of Ontario's vaccine eligible population (12+) has received at least one dose and 78.6% are fully vaccinated.
Though it's not official until today's vaccinations for Ontario are posted tomorrow, Ontario surpassed 11 million people with at least one dose today.
Lets look at the positive case counts, hospitalizations and ICU:
3.79 million people unvaccinated
827,355 people partially vaccinated
10.17 million people fully vaccinated
Positive cases:
784 total today (723 where we knew the person's vaccination status)
475 unvacccinated: that is 12.53 cases per 100,000 unvaccinated people.
66 partially vaccinated: that is 9.13 cases per 100,000 partially vaccinated people.
182 fully vaccinated: that is 1.79 cases per 100,000 fully vaccinated people.

But these numbers could be skewed based on how many people in each vaccination status state were tested, so let's look at hospitalizations and ICU cases which would not be skewed.

Unvaccinated: 159 in hospital (excluding ICU) (up 19 in the last two weeks) and 103 in ICU (up 13 in the last two weeks). That's 4.19 and 2.72 people per 100,000 population respectively.
Partially Vaccinated: 16 in hospital (excluding ICU) (same as two weeks ago) and 8 in ICU (up 2 in the last two weeks). That's 1.45 and 0.97 people per 100,000 population respectively.
Fully Vaccinated: 42 in hospital (excluding ICU) (up 15 in the last two weeks) and 15 in ICU (up 6 in the last two weeks). That's 0.41 and 0.15 people per 100,000 population respectively.
Unvaxxed people make up 25.6% of the Ontario people and make up 74.65% of people in hospital and 81.75% of people in ICU.
Partially vaxxed people make up 5.6% of the Ontario people and make up 5.63% of people in hospital and 6.35% of people in ICU.
Fully vaxxed people make up 68.8% of the Ontario people and make up 19.72% of people in hospital and 11.9% of people in ICU.

What vaccine are you guys using?

 

[Kulindahr]

Not sure if it's 'vaccine complacency' or just plain boredom, but after all these months, I cannot understand why so many people are now wearing masks with mouth covered, but nose exposed. Also, indoor settings are still insisting on masks. I see people outside with masks tucked below their chin, but as they enter indoors they adjust and 'fiddle' with their masks to place them over their faces. And finally, the disposable one wear masks were treated just as that, but now some people are wearing them for days on end. Strange to see.

I reuse disposables, I just put them under UV light between uses.

 

[Kulindahr]

I always gently remind people that if I can see their nose...they aren't doing it right. The one's that make me laugh are the face shield people who look ridiculous and are not really protecting either themselves or the people around them.

Some people around here got pissed when bars started specifying that face shields don't count.

 

[belamyi]

^ People I recall having seen using those "face shields" wear it over their masks...

But if those shields are no use, why do they have it, as mandatory, in every single counter of customer service points?

 

[Telstra]

Are many people afraid to go to hospital when sick from covid?

 

[ruggerladirish]

Are many people afraid to go to hospital when sick from covid?

Here anyway, I don't think it has been a problem for people to go to hospital when sick from Covid. But there has been a worrying trend of people NOT going to hospital for fear of catching Covid while there. There were reports from pharmacy shops of people with burns (for example) which would normally require emergency admission, walking in off the street looking for medication to treat their wounds. There were even people suffering heart attacks, not calling an ambulance for fear of being admitted to hospital. This 'phenomena' has eased somewhat due to far fewer covid-related hospitalizations and with vaccination.

 

[KaraBulut]

Week ending 11-Sep-2021:

Global COVID-19 Weekly Mortality/Morbidity

• Global Cases reported: 224,608,627 (up from 220,621,647 / 1.8%) - *‬*3,986,980 new cases this week
• Global Deaths: 4,629,995 (up from 4,566,641) - **63,354 people died this week

US COVID-19 Weekly Mortality/Morbidity

• Cases reported in the US - 40,954,252 (up from 39,941,581 / 2.5%), 1,012,671 new cases, 25.4% of world's new cases were in the US
• Deaths reported in the US - 659,942 deaths, +11,475 deaths this week , 18.1% of the world's deaths this week were in the US

US Vaccination Weekly Stats

• Approx number of US doses distributed - 456,755,755 (up from 450,175,825 / +5,752,979) - 83.2% of US population of US doses have been administered
  
  Total US residents vaccinated
• 1st dose: - 209,437,152 (up from 206,908,710 / +2,528,442) - 63.5% of US population
• 2nd dose: - 178,692,875 (up from 175,968,266 / +2,724,609) - 54.1% of US population
  
  US residents over age 12 vaccinated
• 1st dose: - 209,207,284 (up from 206,679,615 / +2,527,669) - 73.8% of US population
• 2nd dose: - 178,560,437 (up from 175,836,290 / +2,724,147) - 63.0% of US population
  
  US residents over age 65 vaccinated
• 1st dose: - 50,751,403 (up from 50,520,864 / +230,539) - 92.8% of US population
• 2nd dose: - 45,115,016 (up from 44,890,346 / +224,670) - 82.5% of US population

Coronavirus weekly cases/deaths in active countries (preference to countries with JUB members):

• US: 40,954,252 (up from 39,941,581 / +1,012,671 / 2.5%) - 659,942 deaths (+11,475) - avg daily: cases (+144,667) / deaths (+1,639)
• UK : 7,259,752 (up from 7,010,540 / +249,212 / 3.6%) - 134,525 deaths (+972) - avg daily: cases (+35,602) / deaths (+139)
• India: 33,236,921 (up from 32,988,673 / +248,248 / 0.8%) - 442,655 deaths (+2,122) - avg daily: cases (+35,464) / deaths (+303)
• Turkey: 6,658,221 (up from 6,412,247 / +245,974 / 3.8%) - 59,886 deaths (+2,886) - avg daily: cases (+35,139) / deaths (+412)
• Iran : 5,295,786 (up from 5,129,407 / +166,379 / 3.2%) - 114,311 deaths (+3,637) - avg daily: cases (+23,768) / deaths (+520)
• Russia: 7,037,435 (up from 6,912,375 / +125,060 / 1.8%) - 189,319 deaths (+5,423) - avg daily: cases (+17,866) / deaths (+775)
• Brazil: 20,999,779 (up from 20,890,779 / +109,000 / 0.5%) - 586,851 deaths (+3,223) - avg daily: cases (+15,571) / deaths (+460)
• Mexico: 3,506,743 (up from 3,420,880 / +85,863 / 2.5%) - 267,524 deaths (+4,656) - avg daily: cases (+12,266) / deaths (+665)
• Germany : 4,087,125 (up from 4,013,808 / +73,317 / 1.8%) - 92,614 deaths (+261) - avg daily: cases (+10,474) / deaths (+37)
• France : 6,990,662 (up from 6,921,275 / +69,387 / 1.0%) - 116,124 deaths (+723) - avg daily: cases (+9,912) / deaths (+103)
• Japan: 1,641,928 (up from 1,575,383 / +66,545 / 4.2%) - 16,814 deaths (+444) - avg daily: cases (+9,506) / deaths (+63)
• Israel: 1,172,253 (up from 1,117,596 / +54,657 / 4.9%) - 7,383 deaths (+178) - avg daily: cases (+7,808) / deaths (+25)
• Italy : 4,606,413 (up from 4,571,440 / +34,973 / 0.8%) - 129,919 deaths (+404) - avg daily: cases (+4,996) / deaths (+58)
• Spain : 4,907,461 (up from 4,877,755 / +29,706 / 0.6%) - 85,290 deaths (+495) - avg daily: cases (+4,244) / deaths (+71)
• Canada : 1,548,089 (up from 1,522,625 / +25,464 / 1.7%) - 27,244 deaths (+172) - avg daily: cases (+3,638) / deaths (+25)
• Switzerland : 808,058 (up from 785,696 / +22,362 / 2.8%) - 10,952 deaths (-59) - avg daily: cases (+3,195) / deaths (-8)
• Argentina: 5,224,534 (up from 5,203,802 / +20,732 / 0.4%) - 113,402 deaths (+891) - avg daily: cases (+2,962) / deaths (+127)
• Netherlands : 2,005,511 (up from 1,990,158 / +15,353 / 0.8%) - 18,450 deaths (+40) - avg daily: cases (+2,193) / deaths (+6)
• South Korea : 274,415 (up from 260,403 / +14,012 / 5.4%) - 2,360 deaths (+39) - avg daily: cases (+2,002) / deaths (+6)
• Belgium: 1,205,516 (up from 1,192,008 / +13,508 / 1.1%) - 25,454 deaths (+57) - avg daily: cases (+1,930) / deaths (+8)
• Australia : 74,082 (up from 61,855 / +12,227 / 19.8%) - 1,091 deaths (+52) - avg daily: cases (+1,747) / deaths (+7)
• Columbia: 4,930,249 (up from 4,918,649 / +11,600 / 0.2%) - 125,647 deaths (+369) - avg daily: cases (+1,657) / deaths (+53)
• Ireland: 366,659 (up from 356,819 / +9,840 / 2.8%) - 5,155 deaths (+43) - avg daily: cases (+1,406) / deaths (+6)
• Sweden: 1,138,017 (up from 1,130,525 / +7,492 / 0.7%) - 14,703 deaths (+11) - avg daily: cases (+1,070) / deaths (+2)
• Lebanon: 613,498 (up from 607,400 / +6,098 / 1.0%) - 8,192 deaths (+91) - avg daily: cases (+871) / deaths (+13)
• New Zealand: 3,914 (up from 3,769 / +145 / 3.8%) - 27 deaths (+0) - avg daily: cases (+21) / deaths (+0)

 

[KaraBulut]

Latest Case and Death Numbers for Florida and Texas:
Florida:

• 24-Jul: 73,166 new cases / 282 deaths
• 31-Jul: 110,724 new cases / 409 deaths
• 07-Aug: 134,751 new cases / 616 deaths
• 14-Aug: 151,764 new cases / 1,071 deaths
• 21-Aug: 150,740 new cases / 1,486 deaths
• 28-Aug: 151,760 new cases / 1,727 deaths
• 04-Sep: 129,202 new cases / 2,345 deaths
• 11-Sep: 100,249 new cases / 2,448 deaths

Florida has 6.5% of the US population, but had 10.0% of the COVID cases and a whopping 21.3% of the deaths last week

Texas:

• 24-Jul: 36,451 new cases / 190 deaths
• 31-Jul: 62,722 new cases / 271 deaths
• 07-Aug: 96,807 new cases / 384 deaths
• 14-Aug: 98,447 new cases / 628 deaths
• 21-Aug: 124,969 new cases / 937 deaths
• 28-Aug: 106,976 new cases / 1,351 deaths
• 04-Sep: 137,679 new cases / 1,843 deaths
• 11-Sep: 120,101 new cases / 1,780 deaths

Texas has 8.8% of the US population, but had 11.9% of the COVID cases and 15.5% of the deaths last week

US States With Highest Number of New Cases:

• Texas - 120,101
• Florida - 100,249
• California - 53,965
• Tennessee - 53,588
• Georgia - 50,560
• Ohio - 45,427
• North Carolina - 42,107
• New York - 31,981
• South Carolina - 31,674
• Pennsylvania - 28,016

US States/Territories With Highest Weekly Death Numbers:

• Florida - 2,448
• Texas - 1,780
• California - 637
• Georgia - 621
• South Carolina - 368
• North Carolina - 367
• Mississippi - 365
• Louisiana - 349
• Alabama - 261
• Tennessee - 260

 

[Kulindahr]

^ People I recall having seen using those "face shields" wear it over their masks...

But if those shields are no use, why do they have it, as mandatory, in every single counter of customer service points?

Customer service here has a big shield with just enough room for transactions left open, plus masks are required -- and if there's any passing of paperwork back and forth, hand sanitizer spray is mandatory.

The shields are *some* use; they direct any sneezes or coughs downward instead of out towards others, but that's a benefit limited in both time and space because the idea is to inhibit breath (that could be carrying viruses) from getting out into the air at all -- so they're useful only in a very local and immediate way while useless in terms of keeping viruses from spreading; they don't filter air coming in and they merely redirect breath coming out.

 

[rareboy]

Oh. for. fuck's. sakes.

 

[KaraBulut]

...The shields are *some* use; they direct any sneezes or coughs downward instead of out towards others, but that's a benefit limited in both time and space because the idea is to inhibit breath (that could be carrying viruses) from getting out into the air at all -- so they're useful only in a very local and immediate way while useless in terms of keeping viruses from spreading; they don't filter air coming in and they merely redirect breath coming out.

There is some research on this and in the healthcare setting, they're of benefit to keep aerosol droplets from contaminating the mask. The problem is that without a mask, in an enclosed space, the particles disperse and can enter around the faceshield.

Efficacy of face shields against cough aerosol droplets from a cough simulator [Journal of Occupational Environmental Hygiene]

Face shields can substantially reduce the short-term exposure of health care workers to large infectious aerosol particles, but smaller particles can remain airborne longer and flow around the face shield more easily to be inhaled. Thus, face shields provide a useful adjunct to respiratory protection for workers caring for patients with respiratory infections. However, they cannot be used as a substitute for respiratory protection when it is needed.

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[ruggerladirish]

So, we have reached our targets slightly ahead of time. 90% of the adult (<18) population fully vaccinated. 73% of 12 to 17 Yr olds fully vaccinated. No plans to vaccinate the under-12s, therefore 67% of the entire population fully vaccinated. Case numbers while slightly fluctuating daily, have stabilised, and both transmission and positivity rates finally beginning to fall. However, regulations and public health measures (backed by criminal law sanctions) to remain in place until 22nd October to ensure the current trends continue.

 

[belamyi]

 

[belamyi]

Customer service here has a big shield with just enough room for transactions left open, plus masks are required -- and if there's any passing of paperwork back and forth, hand sanitizer spray is mandatory.

The shields are *some* use; they direct any sneezes or coughs downward instead of out towards others, but that's a benefit limited in both time and space because the idea is to inhibit breath (that could be carrying viruses) from getting out into the air at all -- so they're useful only in a very local and immediate way while useless in terms of keeping viruses from spreading; they don't filter air coming in and they merely redirect breath coming out.

It's the same policy all around, and counter shields are just like face shields. As "limited" and "laughable", if you want, one like the other.

 

[belamyi]

Global risk

 

[Kulindahr]

It's the same policy all around, and counter shields are just like face shields. As "limited" and "laughable", if you want, one like the other.

A friend compared them to wearing body armor only over your heart for a gun fight.

 

[belamyi]

A friend compared them to wearing body armor only over your heart for a gun fight.

Which sort