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[zoltanspawn]

Whether or not it's correct to detect some measure of prejudice in Pat's focus on this problem (are you interested in travelling to India, Pat?) he remains correct that the problem is outrageous.

Why aren't better sewer systems in place? Why are so many of the streets still littered with garbage and shit? What resources are the public willing to spend on addressing the terrific problems the slums present? What about healthcare for the poor? I find the questions infuriating.

If issues of healthcare, public spaces and sanitation are divisive in our home countries, I assure you that the complications India faces are multiplied a hundredfold. Politics, corruption, infrastructure, communalism, class, caste, resignation, environment, language, history, on and on. It's not easily solvable.

The video in #18 begins with the same old lurid hook always used to grab your attention, Hindooostanee caste and shuffling cripples. I loved how it moved quickly beyond that, though, to a concrete story about a simple thing. Kind and brilliant Dr. Patak is a typical character. His elegant toilets, his good philosophy. Thanks for posting that, Pat.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

^ According to UNICEF, India has the highest number of people in the world - an estimated 620 million - who defecate in public.

Studies show open defecation is almost universal amongst the poorest 20 per cent of India's population and more than 28 million children lack access to toilets in their schools.

It creates a major public health hazard by leaving an estimated 65 million kilograms of waste each day.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...encourage-children-use-loo.html#ixzz31CAaKW8l

I've heard somewhere that only like 14% of the people on earth have plummed working toilets - or something amazingly low like that. India's by far not the only country that can't flush.

 

[rareboy]

It is a matter of priorities and whether or not your children will be dieing.

My last mobile phone operated for 6 years.

I've seen sewered-toilets which have operated for half a century.

Your fixations are just weird.

It isn't as though buying phones precludes having indoor plumbing.

The lack of a tax base large enough to fund the type of infrastructure in 2nd and 3rd world countries for sewage systems is the problem.

By the way. We live in the country. On a very 1st world farm. And in order to save precious water and just to commune with nature....we have an outhouse and have no problem shitting outdoors. My grandmother lived on a farm and when they moved into our first world village when they retired...it was 1967 before every house in our community had a toilet on public sewage.

In densely populated 3rd world cities....it will be impossible to provide the type of sewage systems that the brits were able to slap down when they stole clear land from the aboriginals. Different solutions will be required.

In Canada and the US and I dare say Austreyeliah...there are more bears shitting in the woods than you know about.

The truth is Grimshaw...you don't know shit about shit.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Whether or not it's correct to detect some measure of prejudice in Pat's focus on this problem (are you interested in travelling to India, Pat?) he remains correct that the problem is outrageous.

Why aren't better sewer systems in place? Why are so many of the streets still littered with garbage and shit? What resources are the public willing to spend on addressing the terrific problems the slums present? What about healthcare for the poor? I find the questions infuriating.

If issues of healthcare, public spaces and sanitation are divisive in our home countries, I assure you that the complications India faces are multiplied a hundredfold. Politics, corruption, infrastructure, communalism, class, caste, resignation, environment, language, history, on and on. It's not easily solvable.

The handwringing concern Pat shows every couple of months over this topic would be more legitimate if he wasn't alternating it with so frequently talking about all the things he feels his taxes shouldn't cover to bring any sort of communal benefits to those people in his country.

People with means and prosperity in India who think a whole lot like Pat does about social issues are likely to blame for why political will doesn't exist for the kind of mass investment required to fix this problem.

 

[pat grimshaw]

…. Pat …. Pat ….

Half a million people are dieing every year because they care about mobile phones more than toilets.

 

[pat grimshaw]

…. (are you interested in travelling to India, Pat?) ….

Not particularly. I hear the Taj Mahal looks like a chocolate box.

 

[zoltanspawn]

Half a million people are dieing every year because they care about mobile phones more than toilets.

To be clear, the ones who are dying are not the ones who care more about cell phones.

Not particularly. I hear the Taj Mahal looks like a chocolate box.

Amongst the idiot problems you will face when enjoying the extraordinary Taj Mahal is not that it looks like a chocolate box.

 

[rareboy]

^ You have to make allowances for Grimshaw.

He has never travelled....is unlikely to ever travel....and has neither imagination or apparently, ability to comprehend the complexities of the world around him.

The entire world is filtered through the equivalent of a Stormfront Australia lens. Which makes everything you have never experienced and do not understand seem threatening.

Reading would help...but that doesn't seem to be a pastime for Grimshaw either......

 

[pat grimshaw]

OFF-TOPIC POST


^ I can tell you are obsessed with me.

I know you're a Lapsed Catholic. And I know Voltaire said If God did not exist, we would have to invent him.

I'm now thinking that if Pat Grimshaw did not exist, you would have to invent him.

 

[palbert]

OFF-TOPIC POST


^ I can tell you are obsessed with me.

I know you're a Lapsed Catholic. And I know Voltaire said If God did not exist, we would have to invent him.

I'm now thinking that if Pat Grimshaw did not exist, you would have to invent him.

But who invented Comrad?

 

[frankfrank]

My my, Mr. Hankey, you've really put on some weight!

 

[rareboy]

OFF-TOPIC POST


^ I can tell you are obsessed with me.

I know you're a Lapsed Catholic. And I know Voltaire said If God did not exist, we would have to invent him.

I'm now thinking that if Pat Grimshaw did not exist, you would have to invent him.

I don't know why you called this an Off Topic Post.

It is about as full of shit as they come.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

They call it the "Third World" (Irish pronounciation) for a reason...

 

[JPGhost]

They call it the "Third World" (Irish pronounciation) for a reason...

maybe there's wisdom from third world country if you only looking from your "third eye" perspective..^^

Nah..there are grams of salt in this thread. It's a true saying: Dont shit where you eat

 

[JPGhost]

But surely thats what the Ganges are there for.

Gangga is HARDCORE!!

You want filthy? I give you filthy ^^

***GRAPHIC***http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pict...s-chinese-netizen-reactions.html***GRAPHIC***

 

[zoltanspawn]

Every now and again I think I want to visit China, and then I see something like that and change my mind.^

 

[dpnice]

I honestly didn't know that there were corpses floating in the Ganges. I had presumed that the dead were all incinerated and then their ashes dispersed in the river.

I think it is decided that my travelling days are over and I will stick to European cities for my holidays.

 

[JPGhost]

Every now and again I think I want to visit China, and then I see something like that and change my mind.^

You know..I think we shouldn't be chicken out visiting country that we have intention to go in a first place due because of this or that, hearing this o that. I like India; their culture, people. It's one of a part of the world that is so ancient, original for their culture and I must experience all of that.

Although India could be a borderline "3rd world" but I dont put the country entirely in 3rd world category like some african countries. Their customary are third world I must say but if you travel expensively and know where to find exclusive spot, then it shouldn't be a problem.
So, it depends on your travel style too. I always "vacationing" ^^ everywhere I go, maybe you like to "adventuring" like Taz. If you're an adventure-type, then usually you take your destination more wholesome; crap and all of that. It's like you love to adapt more than to be a pleasure seeking traveler.

So I still visit India, how bout you? ^^
Yes, even with that key lime green, putrid color flesh.. of a floating body ..in my mind -_- which terrorize me for days getting me nausea looking at green colored food. (pistachio pudding )

 

[Telstra]

disgusting thread, disgusting video

 

[zoltanspawn]

You know..I think we shouldn't be chicken out visiting country that we have intention to go in a first place due because of this or that, hearing this o that. I like India; their culture, people. It's one of a part of the world that is so ancient, original for their culture and I must experience all of that.

Although India could be a borderline "3rd world" but I dont put the country entirely in 3rd world category like some african countries. Their customary are third world I must say but if you travel expensively and know where to find exclusive spot, then it shouldn't be a problem.
So, it depends on your travel style too. I always "vacationing" ^^ everywhere I go, maybe you like to "adventuring" like Taz. If you're an adventure-type, then usually you take your destination more wholesome; crap and all of that. It's like you love to adapt more than to be a pleasure seeking traveler.

So I still visit India, how bout you? ^^
Yes, even with that key lime green, putrid color flesh.. of a floating body ..in my mind -_- which terrorize me for days getting me nausea looking at green colored food. (pistachio pudding )

Josie, I said China.