5 Reasons to hate on Mccain's VP choice

[noah617]

Umm. He didn't mention wiki, Marley did. WTF People!? This place is becoming a fucking kindergarten.

He accused most of the people on here of posting about Palin without bothering to find out something about her first. He said half of it was wrong. I asked him to point out where we had gone wrong. What's so kindergarten about that?

 

[Raincoat Massacre]

Vice Presidential nominee her Presidential experience is nowhere near as important as Obama’s. It only becomes an issue if McCain dies in office or is forced to resign for whatever reason however if you believe McCain is going to die in office or be forced to resign due to ill health or scandal why would you be voting for him?

Uhhhh I think the VP needs to be qualified. He/She will be in command if the President falls ill and dies or god forbid, gets assassinated. I think choosing a VP candidate with the qualifications to be leader matters a lot. And I don't think that it's an issue that should be taken lightly

 

[robertstar]

Uhhhh I think the VP needs to be qualified. He/She will be in command if the President falls ill and dies or god forbid, gets assassinated. I think choosing a VP candidate with the qualifications to be leader matters a lot. And I don't think that it's an issue that should be taken lightly

Palin is at least as ‘qualified’ as Obama (a Presidential nominee), which is why her ‘qualifications’ aren’t important at all. If Palin isn’t qualified to be VP then Obama is nowhere near qualified to be President.

 

[syntax]

Palin is at least as ‘qualified’ as Obama (a Presidential nominee), which is why her ‘qualifications’ aren’t important at all. If Palin isn’t qualified to be VP then Obama is nowhere near qualified to be President.

According to the US Constitution, the only qualifications for a President are:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.txt

Other than that, people can decide what in their view makes someone "qualified" to be President. For me, years of "experience" whether spent in the Senate (or a Vietnamese prison camp) mean very little. I am much more concerned with intelligence, judgment and competency. Based on those criteria, I judge Obama much more qualified to be President than McCain. I also select a candidate based on how closely a candidate's views match mine. Again, because of his support for abortion rights, gay rights, opposition to the war in Iraq, call for greater diplomacy and his economic and environmental policy, I support Obama. I also believe military service is an additional advantage, but by no means necessary or sufficient.

 

[bike10]

Kinds reminds me Dan Quayle in drag.

 

[Raincoat Massacre]

Palin is at least as ‘qualified’ as Obama (a Presidential nominee), which is why her ‘qualifications’ aren’t important at all. If Palin isn’t qualified to be VP then Obama is nowhere near qualified to be President.

I mis-read your post lol I thought you said she wasn't qualified and that doesn't matter one bit lol

sorry

 

[RandomAccess]

She said NUCULAR!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF!!!!!!!!!
That ALONE is enough.......

Oh fuck. . . Dammit! That's what got G-Dub elected!!!

 

[jjmc]

Palin ISNT running for President BUT she is. At anytime anything could happen to Obama OR McCain. The No. 2 must be ready. So because of that I think it is fair to call into question her experience. As it would be fair to question Biden's experience as Obama's VP. I've always took that into consideration because it can EASILY be reality! Personally, I don't think her experience is better than Obama's. Perhaps people should actually look at the legislative proposals he SPONSORED and CO-Sponsored in both Illinois and the U.S. Senate. He took on some heavy issues. And before people say "well, they werent all passed" please remember that he is ONE of 100 votes in ONE CHAMBER. And his advocacy track record is actually strong.

I will say that I do like her governing. But on important social issues, NOPE! She has made anti-environment type statements and I don't like her stance on abortion and gay rights etc. I don't know her foreign policy views, so I can't speak on that. BUT it is that's an area very important to me. I know a lot of people keep saying SHE isnt running for president, BUT VP play a much larger role in leading our nation than being "president of the senate" and "voting in case of a tie." VP's don't dont get credit, but they do a lot of work and they do have an agenda!

 

[Spiff]

I suspect this choice wasn't crafted by McCain. It admittedly does have an element of ingenuity, albeit risky. But McCain and ingenious are mutually exclusive.

 

[Kulindahr]

He only chose her because he was hoping to win Hillary's supporters over. That and he's making some kind of moronic statement, "You liberals couldn't even chose and woman as VP and now look what I have done!". Funny he chose her considering he doesn't believe in equal pay for women...
"Vice president Palin, would you get me my coffee?"
"Shuh thing Miztah President...."

LOL
As an Alaskan outdoor person, she might be packing in the White House -- McCain might not want to offend her.

 

[jdoe4822]

No, I don't mean "she scares me" is one.

I dunno its kinda sexy...in a girl id go straight for sort of way.


another side note to the big oil issue - her husband works for big oil but isn't an executive with them. he's actually a union leader.

 

[robertstar]

Palin ISNT running for President BUT she is. At anytime anything could happen to Obama OR McCain. The No. 2 must be ready. So because of that I think it is fair to call into question her experience. As it would be fair to question Biden's experience as Obama's VP. I've always took that into consideration because it can EASILY be reality! Personally, I don't think her experience is better than Obama's. Perhaps people should actually look at the legislative proposals he SPONSORED and CO-Sponsored in both Illinois and the U.S. Senate. He took on some heavy issues. And before people say "well, they werent all passed" please remember that he is ONE of 100 votes in ONE CHAMBER. And his advocacy track record is actually strong.

Care to share some of Obama’s legislative accomplishments? I’m interested to see if you can do better than the idiots who go on Fox News to support him and can’t name one.

In relation to Palin the experience point isn’t a valid one.

People look at the experience issue from completely the wrong angle, it isn’t about how many years you’ve served but what you’ve actually accomplished and done that matters and the contrast between Obama and Palin on that front is huge and I imagine that in reality that’s why McCain chose her as VP. In her two-years as Governor she has brought about real and tangible change in the state and the politics at play there, in contrast to this what real changes has Obama made in Chicago? He’s talked a good game but when it comes to actually going out there and doing it things don’t look so good. Despite being a two-year Governor Palin is going to be used to underline the Obama’s inexperienced argument because they’ll contrast what Obama’s done in his years in politics to what she’s done in her years in politics.

I’ll also repeat that you can’t argue that a three-year Senator has the experience needed to be President and then claim that a two-year Governor doesn’t have the experience to be Vice-President. There’s slightly more weight behind the opposite side of that argument although I think measuring experience in years rather than accomplishments is stupid anyway. It should also be remembered that 95% (at least) of Americans will vote for the top of the ticket not the bottom.

 

[Spensed]

Care to share some of Obama’s legislative accomplishments? I’m interested to see if you can do better than the idiots who go on Fox News to support him and can’t name one.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/02/dear-chris-matt.html

Plus, of course, unlike Palin, Obama isn't being formally investigated in an ethics scandal.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/mccainpalin_ticket_hits_iceber.html

 

[Spensed]

And, in addition to defending a formal ethics' investigation, she herself says she has no idea what being a Vice President involves:



Wasn't Harriet Miers available?

 

[robertstar]

Plus, of course, unlike Palin, Obama isn't being formally investigated in an ethics scandal.

Whilst one of Obama’s major fund raisers was charged with fraud and soliciting bribes from firms seeking Illinois state contracts. And that’s the same man who was linked with some questionable property dealings with Obama that still haven’t been completely resolved and cleared up. The assumption that Obama (or any politician) is clean of scandal is a mistake to say the least.

Link

And the Rezko case isn't the only questionable funding issue related to Obama either, there's also Robert Blackwell Jr.

Link

It is also of course worth remembering that both Obama and Biden have both been accused of plagiarising sections of their speeches in the past.

Again to assume anyone is free of scandal is a mistake. The Palin ‘scandal’ is really rather benign.

 

[Spensed]

The Palin ‘scandal’ is really rather benign.

Not to her ex-brother-in-law and not if the facts alleged are true and she misused her power to get him fired.

I don't assume that everyone is free of scandal. But high ethical standards in public office are supposed to be one of her strengths.

And, of course, it would help if she knew what being Vice President involved, which she's said she doesn't. Not to worry, maybe she can learn on the job.

Oy vey.

 

[robertstar]

And a ‘new way’ and ‘change’ are supposed to be Obama’s major selling point, yet he’s linked to the same funding scandals as every politician since time began and not representative of a new way or change at all. He wants to clean-up/fix Washington but he’s part of the broken system.

Oddly I think that judging a Presidential ticket on the Presidential nominee before the VP is the way to go.

For example Presidential nominee John McCain a massively experienced Senator and respected voice on foreign policy has selected Sarah Palin an effective Governor who has brought about real change in her state in two-years. Compared to Presidential nominee Barack Obama who is inexperienced and has demonstrated no real or clear understanding of foreign policy whilst campaigning on a platform of change and a new way has selected Joe Biden a hugely experienced and respected voice in foreign policy as his VP nominee.

See how those tickets balance out and frankly I’d give the edge to Republican ticket just because the experience is at the top of their ticket where it matters.

And the Palin scandal really is benign.

 

[White Eagle]

John McPain is 23 years older than Alaska.

 

[Spensed]

And a ‘new way’ and ‘change’ are supposed to be Obama’s major selling point, yet he’s linked to the same funding scandals as every politician since time began and not representative of a new way or change at all. He wants to clean-up/fix Washington but he’s part of the broken system.

Obama's still much cleaner than McCain (Keating, Georgia lobbyist on staff, DHL job loss involvement, etc., etc.)

Oddly I think that judging a Presidential ticket on the Presidential nominee before the VP is the way to go.

VPs don't generally alter people's Presidential votes. But, I'm sure the Dems will hammer away at the desperate recklessness of McCain's gamble on Palin, who, by the way, he's apparently only met once or twice and barely knows. Is she really the best qualified candidate for VP in the whole country? How sad is that.

For example Presidential nominee John McCain a massively experienced Senator and respected voice on foreign policy has selected Sarah Palin an effective Governor who has brought about real change in her state in two-years. Compared to Presidential nominee Barack Obama who is inexperienced and has demonstrated no real or clear understanding of foreign policy whilst campaigning on a platform of change and a new way has selected Joe Biden a hugely experienced and respected voice in foreign policy as his VP nominee.

I don't think people, who don't already support McCain, see him as a "respected voice on foreign policy". He's constantly mispeaking in this area and he's perceived as another bring-'em-on George W. figure, who wants keeps troops in Iraq forever.

As his Iraq war decision shows, what Obama lacks in foreign expertise he makes up for in judgment and intelligence. Plus, as you say, now he has Biden on the ticket.

See how those tickets balance out and frankly I’d give the edge to Republican ticket just because the experience is at the top of their ticket where it matters.

I just don't see that and hopefully most Americans won't either. McCain's experience is off point and outdated. If you owned a troubled company, you'd never hire someone like McCain as a Chief Executive.

And the Palin scandal really is benign.

Well, clearly, that's what you hope. We'll see.

 

[jackoroe]

There is no Palin "scandal". She fired an at will employee. End of story!