56-Year-Old Lesbian Heckles Michelle Obama, Instead of Her Peers

[chrisrobin]

Michelle has a temper.

This is unforgivable. Take her out and stone her!

 

[Lostlover]

Obama said he would sign an executive order, banning federal contractors from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity.

He has not done so.

That is Ellen Sturz's complaint.

It is unfair to target the first lady for the failings of her husband. She is, after all, not a legislator and has no authority to do anything at all about gay rights.

But, she is an obvious representative of her husband, and needs to expect to be heckled, so long as he continues to ignore our rights.

With all due respect, this is bullshit: guilt by association (Michelle being the wife of President Obama) and heckling people that are on your side. From my seat, I see an older woman complaining about not having rights she should have when it's her ilk that have her in the position that she's in now.

As Ann Coulter says about democrats, you can say this about Ms. Sturtz: "Punish your friends and reward the enemies."

Isn't AARP's headquarters in that part of the country? Go protest there please.

(BTW: Michelle Obama was at a lesbian couple's home for this fundraiser...my goodness.)

 

[mightbe]

I don't think T-Rexx was necessarily condoning this woman's actions--rather, (this is my interpretation of the post) that Michelle should come to expect people that people will heckle her. She is the First Lady, and certain people will jump at the chance to heckle any person affiliated with the administration. Michelle should (and I don't see how she couldn't) know that she's a prime target.

The way I see the post, he's in agreement that guilt-by-association is hokum and that Michelle will continue to be singled out by disrespectful protesters.

I personally think this woman has just cost herself her reputation and any possibility of a private audience with the Obamas. She showed no self-restraint and has made an ass of herself. Even if I misinterpreted T-Rexx's post, I stand by the thought that there will be more just like Ellen Sturz.

 

[Jack Springer]

This is unforgivable. Take her out and stone her!

Angry black woman.

 

[newbored]

LMFAO. This is all kinda funny.

 

[chrisrobin]

I personally think this woman has just cost herself her reputation and any possibility of a private audience with the Obamas.

You've got it backwards. The first lady would need to arrange for a private audience with Ellen Sturz. The FLOTUS would have to promise to behave herself.

 

[Ninja108]

Never liked heckling but that's just me.

 

[Jack Springer]

If this were a 56 yo gay man instead of a 56 yo gay woman -- would the headline of the thread be the same?

 

[Kulindahr]

Michelle has a temper.

“Listen to me or you can take the mic, but I’m leaving. You all decide. You have one choice.”

That's just being assertive.


I recognize the name. Ellen Sturtz is an activist of the make-a-scene-to-get-attention variety -- so there's no surprise she'd pull something like this.

She may represent Get Equal, but she needs to join Get Civil.

 

[Lostlover]

The Washington Post gave this woman a soapbox for her nonsense. Thankfully, though, the readers writing in are ripping her to shreds.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...c68c1c-cf98-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html

Serious...why is she impatient now?

I love the opening paragraph:

When Barack Obama was running for President in 2008, I thought he was serious about protecting the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community from workplace discrimination. He made two key promises — that he would sign an executive order providing workplace protections by federal contractors, and that he would help pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), ending workplace discrimination by all employers. I contributed to the campaign, expecting that if elected, he would keep his word to fight for our community.

In 2008, President Obama was officially "evolving" on the matter, first. Second, yes, he as a black man knows nothing about discrimination. Third, despite deciding to be the first sitting president to openly support gay rights, he drew his line of support for gay people at gay marriage *roll eyes*. Anything more than gay marriage, like workplace discrimination, he's not for.

This woman is so misguided. The responses in this thread are refreshing. We see right through her.

Ohh... this is saying that she'd confront Michelle Obama again. I got news for her...Michelle Obama is 6 feet 1 inches. Ellen might be a lesbian, but Michelle is more of a man than her. My money is on Michelle beating butch out of her.

Disrespectful.

 

[Ninja108]

And yet Bill Clinton hasn't gotten heckled for DOMA or DADT.

 

[chrisrobin]

.
Confucius say:

1. Know your friends.
2. Know your enemies.
3. Know the difference between the two.
4. Never pass up a golden opportunity to keep your mouth shut.

 

[MisterMajestic]

MM, surely you've been paying attention to how the Administration treats the press. They have a pool reporter who is allowed limited access to an event like this - video is rarely if ever allowed. The press pool are closely watched and escorted out after the Administration official talks.

Here's an audio of the confrontation. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...onts-protester-threatens-to-leave-fundraiser/

Back in 2011 pool reporters were locked in a storage closet during a Biden fundraiser.

"A group of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans issued a statement saying, "LGBT people in North Carolina, New Mexico, Ohio and all over the country are dehumanized in our jobs, and we are forced into the closet in order to participate in the American dream."

The statement said, "We value the first lady's leadership and invite her to lead the charge within the Democratic Party to end employment discrimination. President Obama has an executive order sitting on his desk that can protect a quarter of the labor force in the U.S. from workplace discrimination. We will continue engaging leaders in the administration and the Democratic Party until President Obama fulfills a promise to our community made five years ago."



Jack I wish I had seen your Link prior to hearing the audio on TV...

Corrections I need to make about LGBT Activist Ellen Sturtz. I said she was a protestor on Private property without an invitation. Ellen was indeed invited & paid $700 for the fundraiser meal (That she didnt get to finish..LOL..I would have told some Damn body to make me a Doggy bag after the Secret Service drags me out of the building..I WANT my $700 Mash-taters & Green beans.....LOL)...Anyways she was where she was suppose to be. Ellen had every right to stand up and Scream out denied Rights that have been over-looked by The Obama Administration. Mrs. Obama also has rights. When she's invited to private events she can choose to sit or stand while an Activist YELLS his peace or she can choose to leave...That's the Bottom line...

I simply Feel that Ellen & other LGBT Activists need to pick the right time & place to Battle it out. Know who your true Enemies are & know when to take the Fight to those you help put in Power because of their stance on Equal rights for All Americans regardless of race, gender, class, religion, sexual orientation or disability.

 

[rareboy]

Aren't there drones out there to take care of 56 year old lesbian hecklers?

 

[eastofeden]

The only thing that stands out for me is the brilliant response from Mrs Obama. I loved it.

The rest...I defer to Kallipolis's equally brilliant response.

 

[CowboyBob]

Angry black woman.

Racist comment.

 

[chrisrobin]

Aren't there drones out there to take care of 56 year old lesbian hecklers?

Should we settle for fluorescent, dye-filled water balloons?

 

[T-Rexx]

Executive Orders can be easily repealed by the next President, so it's a temporary move at best.

Doesn't matter.

A promise made has not been kept. The president could easily do this. He has not.

Laws can be relatively easily changed by the next president, too. Does that mean we should not pass laws?

Obama is good for playing the long game

Is he? For a long time, the president defended DOMA and DADT, and he opposed gay marriage. How long is the long game?

It took Joe Biden to get Obama to (finally!) back gay marriage. What's it going to take to get him to sign this simple order?

Some people need to learn some goddamn patience.

How long is the appropriate length of time to wait, to show proper deference? Is waiting five years for some relief from workplace discrimination not long enough? What about the lifetime that Ms. Sturtz has been waiting? How much longer should she wait, before she is allowed to complain?

Does it take the president six years to sign his name?

(and tact - you heckle those that refuse to hear your message, not allies willing to hear you out if you don't act like a fucking dumbass. When you scream at someone in the middle of their speech, don't be surprised if they take you to task for your asshattery.)

If this had been Laura Bush, you would be cheering Ms. Sturtz for striking a blow against the Bush bigotry.

Politeness does not get you very far, when people in power are ignoring you and denying you rights.

Of course Mrs. Obama is not responsible for policy. So, of course, it is unfair to target her. But this is not about fairness. It is about making a statement. It is about getting someone to listen to you (who appears to be deliberately ignoring you). Apparently, it worked. We're talking about it here, aren't we? My guess is that the president got the message.

With all due respect, this is bullshit: guilt by association (Michelle being the wife of President Obama) and heckling people that are on your side.

Michelle Obama is the wife of the president, and a representative of the administration. Were she not, she would not have been speaking at that fundraiser.

As far as "heckling people who are on your side," if the president is on our side, why has he not signed this executive order?

 

[Jack Springer]

Aren't there drones out there to take care of 56 year old lesbian hecklers?

cue ... CowboyBob and a rant on misogyny.

 

[FuryOfFirestorm]

A promise made has not been kept. The president could easily do this. He has not. Laws can be relatively easily changed by the next president, too. Does that mean we should not pass laws?

If someone promises me a piece of gum now, or cake if I wait an hour later, I'd rather wait for the better option. An EO is like putting on a bandage on a gaping wound, rather than waiting for an ambulance to take you to hospital for treatment.

Is he? For a long time, the president defended DOMA and DADT, and he opposed gay marriage. How long is the long game? It took Joe Biden to get Obama to (finally!) back gay marriage. What's it going to take to get him to sign this simple order?

Yes, he did, but he evolved on the subject. Joe Biden didn't "push" Obama to support gay marriage, he just blabbed Obama's plans to the public ahead of time.

How long is the appropriate length of time to wait, to show proper deference? Is waiting five years for some relief from workplace discrimination not long enough? What about the lifetime that Ms. Sturtz has been waiting? How much longer should she wait, before she is allowed to complain? Does it take the president six years to sign his name?

Some laws take time to get pushed through. The government doesn't work as fast as we want it to. Deal with it. Also, it took a loooong time for African Americans and women to get equal rights, and it's going to take a long time for us too. Not everything good comes easy or fast.

If this had been Laura Bush, you would be cheering Ms. Sturtz for striking a blow against the Bush bigotry. Politeness does not get you very far, when people in power are ignoring you and denying you rights.

If you read what I posted earlier, it doesn't matter what the speaker's political slant is. There's a certain way to act when people are speaking, and you don't attack your allies. I may not agree with Mrs. Bush's politics, but she seems like a decent woman, and as the President's wife, she is to be treated with respect when interacting with her. Effective activists know when and where to make a scene, and attacking an ally isn't it.

Of course Mrs. Obama is not responsible for policy. So, of course, it is unfair to target her. But this is not about fairness. It is about making a statement. It is about getting someone to listen to you (who appears to be deliberately ignoring you). Apparently, it worked. We're talking about it here, aren't we? My guess is that the president got the message.

The message that got across is that some gay rights activists can't pick their battles properly and want attention to the detriment of our cause. I could send a message to homophobes by burning down the Westboro Baptist Church, but that would reflect badly on the gay community. If Ellen had waited until after the speech to ask Mrs. Obama her question, she could have gotten her message across without coming off like a ranting buffoon. Acting like a lunatic Teatard doesn't work.

Michelle Obama is the wife of the president, and a representative of the administration. Were she not, she would not have been speaking at that fundraiser. As far as "heckling people who are on your side," if the president is on our side, why has he not signed this executive order?

Remember when Martin Luther King got equal rights for black people by yelling at Jackie Kennedy? You don't? Well, neither do I. Obviously, yelling at his wife is totally going to convince Obama to do whatever Mrs. Sturtz wants. Just like hollering and throwing shoes at GW Bush got him to stop the war!