60 Minutes

[Lube]

There was a link to an article about that, in a thread here about a month ago.

The increase was really quite small, but reproducible apparently.

My straight older brother won't mind, but my straight younger brother might.

 

[eddielee]

So the theory is, if I have a lot of older brothers, I'm more likely to be gay? Nonsense. Anyway, without knowing more, I don't find that theory offensive, just useless.

 

[Sausy]

I'm the oldest in my family,and last time I checked,as always I'm gay.Theory doesn't hold squat for me!

 

[1st love ron]

Wait, wasn't the researcher gay? Well, at least my gaydar tells me so.

 

[Pegasus69]

Okay, me head hurts after that. So, where do I fit in this? I am the youngest, but I am also the only male, but I am right handed, Oh yeah, I like dick......

 

[Lube]

Wait, wasn't the researcher gay? Well, at least my gaydar tells me so.

Just a little bit? Maybe bi-curious?

It was actually pretty interesting.

What we have to understand is that "significant" is different in a mathematical/scientific sense than in a real world sense.

What they basically said was that a son has a 2 or 3% chance of being gay, and each additional (right handed!) son increases that chance by third. That doesn't mean the second son has a 33% chance of being gay, it means that he has a 3% or 4% chance.

So, in the grand scheme of things, it's still a tiny/small percentage. But compared to the first son, it is significantly larger.

I really like how the mom answered the question about did she feel she could've changed her potentially gay son: her answer was that it might change him on the outside, but it would do more damage than good.

It was somewhat disconcerting that the one boy wanted to be a girl (although at that age, surely he doesn't understand all the ramification of that!), but it ended on a great note when both boys said they were proud of who they were.

 

[MRMATTX2]

I have no brothers, I'm the youngest and have two older sisters - so, I put no stock whatsoever in those kind of theories.

 

[bigcannon]

What if you are the oldest and have several younger brothers that are straight? Kind of blows that theory. No pun intended.

 

[Lube]

What did you guys think about the convert-the-video-to-black-and-white-with-no-sound study? Seemed a little stereotypical, no?

Maybe those are the gays that ping harder to the extreme of the Kinsey scale? Nothing wrong with that. That's one thing that wasn't really talked about; they made gayness seem like an on/off switch.

 

[TaigaStar]

So wait... if I have like 500 sons, more and more of them might possibly be gay? Now how am I going to overrun the planet with my progeny?

Seriously, that's such an idiotic theory to voice. Are people really getting paid money to come up with this idiocy?

 

[Kojimon]

So wait... if I have like 500 sons, more and more of them might possibly be gay? Now how am I going to overrun the planet with my progeny?

Seriously, that's such an idiotic theory to voice. Are people really getting paid money to come up with this idiocy?

Don't be so hasty.

It doesn't so much mean that the sons are going to be gay, but that less testosterone can feminize future offspring.

There was a similar thread to this one not too long ago with a great link:

http://justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112428

Ya'll gotta check it out.

 

[Lube]

Now I am goign to actally watch 60 minutes and see what he says. Let's hope he isn't a bigot like I said and is just doing some statistics on gays (doubtful).

Thanks for the initial heads-up, Queer_Appeal. I don't normally watch TV, so this gave me a chance to check out the show.

Two thumbs up for you!

 

[Lube]

Don't be so hasty.

It means doesn't so much mean that the son is going to be gay, but that less testosterone can feminize future offspring.

Exactly, Kojimon.

Which, when you think about it, isn't all that surprising. Less testosterone = more feminizing. We've known that for years.

 

[Soilwork]

That actually is true.

It's thought that it's nature's way of trying to keep the same genes from being too common and therefore a more vaired gene pool.

makes sense.

But I'm one of three triplets and I'm the oldest by a whopping 12 minutes.

And the youngest son in my family is also gay.

 

[MidnightPrism]

I have 2 older brothers. There is 1 straight, 1 bi, & 1 queer

 

[hurynwait2]

I have a younger brother and an older sister.

I"m the only gay in the family.

All right handers.

 

[Lube]

Surely the cynical here have not read this post thoroughly (post #10 in this thread):

http://justusboys.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1710680&postcount=10

The researchers are not saying every (or only) younger brothers are gay.

They are saying the probability of being gay goes up by 1 or 2 percentage points for each additional brother. It's still a tiny, tiny number. And it still doesn't mean that the oldest boy can't be gay.

But it is scientifically significant and reproducible.

 

[Elwood]

I am the youngest male of 5, 4 boys 1 girl I am right handed and I am gay theory holds true for me.

 

[TaigaStar]

I feel that this study is a waste of time and resources, what with all the other issues we have in our world that require attention (the world energy crisis; diseases we can't find cures for yet; and how the only planet we can actually inhabit is starting to alter its balance into something that threatens the existence of our species). Now, maybe I'm missing a point here, which is entirely possible, but how was this study honestly conducted? Despite anybody else's opinion, I am a right-handed, heterosexual male who was the only child in his family. And what about lesbians? Does the same idea hold true for women as it would for men in this study? Because I have to tell you tyhat my mother grew upwith 8 sisters and a brother and they were all heterosexuals.

Sorry for the rant, but I really felt the need to clarify part of the reason I think studies like this are bogus (and to clarify why I find it idiotic).

 

[Lube]

Despite anybody else's opinion, I am a right-handed, heterosexual male who was the only child in his family. And what about lesbians?

What does your being a right-handed heterosexual male who is the only child in his family have anything to do with the show or the results of the study? Other than the fact that you have less of a likelihood of being gay than if you had older brothers--which you don't. And since you say you're not gay, there is nothing about your condition that contradicts anything that was said in the study.

And the show did say this didn't apply to lesbians. They didn't say if anything else did.