9/11 an Inside Job ? "How dare you" Bill Clinton

[G-Lexington]

>>>Absolutely. I'm not saying that I support the theories, either. I just don't understand why the administration would rather ignore the theories than debunk them.

You can't debunk a conspiracy theory. Any evidence presented to counter them is either labelled "part of the conspiracy", or the conspiracy simply mutates slightly to take the new information on board. No conspiracy theorist worth his/her name would get a piece of evidence and say, "Hm. I guess you're right - it didn't happen that way."

Lex

 

[wooster]

Anyone who believes in a 911 conspiracy is nuts.The amount of people involved, to pull off something like that would be enormous.Something like that would be leaking like a sieve.

Also...Bush is dumb...right? But yet he is smart enough to pull off 911? You people need some serious help....

This is one of the best things,to come out of Clintons mouth in a while.My respect for him,just went from 0-60.Anyone who believes this crap,should be wearing a T-Shirt....That says....(I'm a big nutjub)sorry to all you nutjubs....

Funny, I've always felt that anyone who believes that 9/11 was'nt a so called "conspiracy theory" is just plain dumb. It's not a liberal/ left wing thing to believe that it was an inside job, it's common fucking sense. All the scientific data supporting this is'nt even needed, just THINK about who would benefit from such an excersize. C'mon now.

Bush smart enough to pull off 9/11? Haha, all Bush does is get drunk and then try to look pretty for the camera when necessary. Presidents are mere face men. If they start to become independant leaders, they'll get shot. The people you don't see, the people who are nothing but robots to the tyrannical system, are the ones who orchestrate such events. The face men know about it. As they benefit from it, they'll support it and obviously maintain the facade. After all, whats a few thousand cockroaches amongst many millions if it leads to greater control of the remaining robots?

 

[yuty]

Funny, I've always felt that anyone who believes that 9/11 was'nt a so called "conspiracy theory" is just plain dumb. It's not a liberal/ left wing thing to believe that it was an inside job, it's common fucking sense. All the scientific data supporting this is'nt even needed, just THINK about who would benefit from such an excersize. C'mon now.

Bush smart enough to pull off 9/11? Haha, all Bush does is get drunk and then try to look pretty for the camera when necessary. Presidents are mere face men. If they start to become independant leaders, they'll get shot. The people you don't see, the people who are nothing but robots to the tyrannical system, are the ones who orchestrate such events. The face men know about it. As they benefit from it, they'll support it and obviously maintain the facade. After all, whats a few thousand cockroaches amongst many millions if it leads to greater control of the remaining robots?

 

[G-Lexington]

>>>it's common fucking sense.

Precisely. It's completely and utterly obvious. And NOTHING can convince you otherwise.

Lex

 

[SamsDad]

Not to say anything to denounce this conspiracy theory, but people would still come up with them no matter what. Naturally, people don't always trust other people.

Yeah, kind of like your "no such thing as the flu" theory.

 

[Spiff]

it's common fucking sense.

No, let me tell you what common sense is. Islamic extremists hate the United States for occupying their countries and supporting Israel, vow to destroy us and even warn us firsthand, and fulfill their promises. It's really as simple as that. No need for all the extra dramatic fiction as you described. There's enough hollywood fiction I could rent to get my fill of that stuff.

 

[wooster]

No, let me tell you what common sense is. Islamic extremists hate the United States for occupying their countries and supporting Israel, vow to destroy us and even warn us firsthand, and fulfill their promises. It's really as simple as that. No need for all the extra dramatic fiction as you described. There's enough hollywood fiction I could rent to get my fill of that stuff.

Nice post filled with dramatic fiction. Ha. Religion is merely a cover. As some intelligent cat once said(not exact-going by memory) "To the commoner religion is right. To the intellect religion is wrong. To the people in charge, religion is beneficial."
Okay then, let's suspend all belief. Lets forget all about who did what. So then, where are we now? Are there more or less constitution infringing laws? Do most people now have a greater fear of "terror"? Who is getting rich solely BECAUSE of 9/11?
Obviously, governments have always used fear tactics to get the people to submit to being controlled. Create a false enemy(a group, a religion, anything contradictory to the common, stable reality) and people will always place their trust in the government, subsequently comprimising their rights. The cold war operated in very much the same way. Again, it cant get any simpler. I'll stop now and observe the ants frolic.

 

[Spiff]

Obviously, governments have always used fear tactics to get the people to submit to being controlled. Create a false enemy(a group, a religion, anything contradictory to the common, stable reality) and people will always place their trust in the government, subsequently comprimising their rights.

I think Islamic terrorism is real not because the government tells me (on the contrary I rarely listen to anything the government tells me). I think it because I observe it myself. And I suppose Osama is an actor hired by our government paid to say he was responsible?

Oh I'm sure you have a witty answer for everything. Your fictional work has become dogma to you.

 

[yuty]

Nice post filled with dramatic fiction. Ha. Religion is merely a cover. As some intelligent cat once said(not exact-going by memory) "To the commoner religion is right. To the intellect religion is wrong. To the people in charge, religion is beneficial."
Okay then, let's suspend all belief. Lets forget all about who did what. So then, where are we now? Are there more or less constitution infringing laws? Do most people now have a greater fear of "terror"? Who is getting rich solely BECAUSE of 9/11?
Obviously, governments have always used fear tactics to get the people to submit to being controlled. Create a false enemy(a group, a religion, anything contradictory to the common, stable reality) and people will always place their trust in the government, subsequently comprimising their rights. The cold war operated in very much the same way. Again, it cant get any simpler. I'll stop now and observe the ants frolic.

 

[wooster]

I think Islamic terrorism is real not because the government tells me (on the contrary I rarely listen to anything the government tells me). I think it because I observe it myself. And I suppose Osama is an actor hired by our government paid to say he was responsible?

Oh I'm sure you have a witty answer for everything. Your fictional work has become dogma to you.

I'm sure they view the U.S. in the same light. Who knows about Osama. None of us have met him. He is just a face man like Bush with a religious facade(I doubt he could out-drink Bush though). And of course you already know about his cia connections in the 80's, right(more speculation, but it's awfully compelling). Every Muslim person I've ever met surely was'nt shoving a bomb in my face. The anti-U.S/Christianity outlook in arab nations is on no greater scale than the anti-arab/Muslim outlook in America. All just a bunch of mob mentality ignorance.

I said all I needed to say by the second post. Now I'm just posting for the hopes of yuty putting up another one of those adorable kitty pics.

 

[LatinoSTAR]

9/11 Was Not A Fucking Inside Job, Get A Grip You Retards, If You Were Less Than Half A Block Away From The World Trade Center That Day, Like I was, And Someone You Loved Was Killed In Them That Day, like Me, then You Would Know If It Was An Inside Job, But Trust me, It Wasnt.

That Stupid Zeitgeist Movie, Has Got Everybody Fucked in the Head With its Mindless bullshit! I Admit Some of The Stuff i Agree on, But The Whole 9/11 Segment Was So Stupid, It Quite Frankly Pissed me Off, If You Think That It Was A Conspiracy And You Werent In New York City That Day, SHUT THE FUCK UP! You Fucking Losers!

 

[Joshua_me]

That Stupid Zeitgeist Movie, Has Got Everybody Fucked in the Head With its Mindless bullshit!

Why is it 'mindless bullshit', exactly ?

 

[LatinoSTAR]

Why is it 'mindless bullshit', exactly ?

The jesus part I Believe, Cause Im Really Into Astrology, But The 9/11 Part NO! NO! NO!, Saying There Was An Explosion In The Basement Before The First Plane Hit, Thats Bullshit, I Would Of Heard it, I only Heard One Explosion, I Looked Out The Window, And Saw This Huge Fire Ball Billowing up Into the Sky, That Was the Only Explosion I Heard Up Until the Second plane Hit.


Mind You I Was less Than Half A Block Away, Maybe 500 feet away from the WTC, I Lived In Tribeca.

If You Were Not There You Wouldnt Understand! So Dont Think For A Second It Was An "Inside Job" Cause It Wasnt! You Only Know What The TV Told You, Much Less knowledge Than If You Were Actually THERE!

 

[NickCole]

The responses in this thread pretty well explain why people who believe 9/11 was an inside job are frustrated.

When there are unanswered reasonable questions and people call you a nutjob for wanting answers, that's frustrating.

Good illustrative thread.

 

[G-Lexington]

You betcha. And we hoaxed the moon landing to get the edge up on the Russians, and to get a push for more Americans to enter the science fields to help push the war machine forward.

And Nixon was publicly disgraced and forced to resign because he turned his back on the Republican party - he wouldn't play ball on Vietnam, and tried to establish ties with China.

WW II? That was us. Our behind-the-scenes machinations put the fascists in power, and a few subtle hints suggested where Japan might attack. End result - five years later, the economy is booming, and American business is universally beloved. Sure, several million people died, but not many were WASPs, and those that were were mainly poor, anyhow. You know what they say - if you wanna make an omelet, sometimes you gotta kill several million people.

Any questions? Well, then, here's one for you - how's that soma tasting?

Lex

 

[rjimbob]

I was at the event in minnepolis in fact I was working the event as a volenteer. These guys had no right yelling out things. Anyone who thinks 911 was a set up needs help. These people have no right to try to ruin a event with their deranged veiws. Nobody wanted to hear from them. We were there to hear Bill and support Hillary. The kid had a $100 seat which he didnt get to sit in long. There were others taken out to for shouting remarks. The event was great!!

 

[darcey]

Whether it was or was not an "inside job" (inside what? The Twin Towers? And who shot JFK?), our current administration reminds me of Laurel & Hardy ("Here's another fine mess you've gotten us into"). 9/11 may be debatable, but the Iraq mess was a job planned (poorly) by those around Dubya. Why seek a "plot" when one is so very obvious in Baghdad? Too much time on their hands?

 

[SantaCBear]

The responses in this thread pretty well explain why people who believe 9/11 was an inside job are frustrated.

When there are unanswered reasonable questions and people call you a nutjob for wanting answers, that's frustrating.

Good illustrative thread.

Don Quixote de la Mancha

Comes to my mind...

 

[oz_doc]

If You Were Not There You Wouldnt Understand! So Dont Think For A Second It Was An "Inside Job" Cause It Wasnt! You Only Know What The TV Told You, Much Less knowledge Than If You Were Actually THERE!

I dont beleive in the conspiracy theories but i think this argument is plain ridiculous. Being in New Yourk on 9/11 does not make you an expert on anything just like having cancer does not make you an oncologist.

 

[oz_doc]

You betcha. And we hoaxed the moon landing to get the edge up on the Russians, and to get a push for more Americans to enter the science fields to help push the war machine forward.

And Nixon was publicly disgraced and forced to resign because he turned his back on the Republican party - he wouldn't play ball on Vietnam, and tried to establish ties with China.

WW II? That was us. Our behind-the-scenes machinations put the fascists in power, and a few subtle hints suggested where Japan might attack. End result - five years later, the economy is booming, and American business is universally beloved. Sure, several million people died, but not many were WASPs, and those that were were mainly poor, anyhow. You know what they say - if you wanna make an omelet, sometimes you gotta kill several million people.

Any questions? Well, then, here's one for you - how's that soma tasting?

Lex

LOL dont want to come off as a crackpot but the moon landing is one of the few conspiracy theories i give a lot of time and thought too. I dont believe for a second that we never went to the moon, I jsut think that theres a distinct possibility that they werent quite ready to do the landing itself. So they sent up the capsule and orbited the moon, as a number of manned missions before it had done but the actual landing footage itself was staged. There was an incredible fear in the NASA and american minds that the russians would beat them in the moon race and I certainly wouldnt put it past them to mock up the apollo 11 landing in order to guarantee a win