A cry for help

[jockboy01]

I have a friend who lost over 100 pounds basically by just running regularly. Everybody has their own way and whatever it is, you have to make sure it is reasonable and a plan you can stick to. Because if it isn't something sustainable, it's not going to work. That's the real key. For some people, they can stick to the exercise portion of the routine... for others, they can stick to the diet and yet others can stick to a combination of the two.

For me, I pretty much eat what I want (I do eat healthy though, but I like desserts too) and then work out a lot. But that's me.

 

[RicanDAB]

I did want to add to my post: I watch what I eat 6 days out of the week, and on the 7th day I eat whatever the hell I want. It's my reward for being good. Needless to say, this Thursday will be my off day! The key then is not to go home with leftovers! Caloric intake is important. You're not going to lose any weight if you eat more than what you burn.

 

[Christopher123]

I did want to add to my post: I watch what I eat 6 days out of the week, and on the 7th day I eat whatever the hell I want.

I do that too. It's not a whole DAY out of the week, but one meal - Sunday dinner. I eat what I want and as much as I want and we always have awesome Sunday dinners. I have dessert, too.

I look forward to Sunday's every week, lol.

 

[dexyboi86]

Holy crap, you're HUGE!! I always wanted to be kind of big like that, because then it's generally a guarantee that nobody in their right mind is gonna wanna fuck with you.

Anyway, I don't really have anything huge or profound to say, but I do wanna just join in with everybody else in supporting you. It shouldn't have to come to this, and now you have a huge support team here rallying around you. Things will get better.

Reading the first paragraph almost made me cry...but i then realized what you meant. 'Nobody wanting to fuck WITH me'...like mess with me. The first thing that went through my mind was not being loved, not lack of bullying.

 

[voyons]

Here are my tips:
1) Change yourself from the inside out. If you are considering eating disorders, clearly there are some issues with body image that you need to deal with. No matter how much weight you lose, if you do not change your view of yourself, you will never be happy. If you still hate yourself when you are at your goal weight you will likely feel a deep sense of disillusionment and this could lead to a return to the emotional eating that probably plagues you right now. You need to love yourself regardless of your weight and once you love yourself, losing weight and keeping it off will be much easier. Are you comfortable with who you are and your sexuality? You have a great community to share things with at JUB and hopefully we can be here to help you on your path.
2) Lower your sodium intake. You are probably retaining a lot of water. The great thing about this is it is easy to lose and will boost your confidence as you see smaller numbers on the weight scale. Watch out for a lot of "diet" foods as they are often loaded with sodium. Keep your intake of sodium below 1000mg and you will be able to shed a lot of the water and this will probably improve your heart pressure as well.
3) Don't eat within 3 hours of sleeping. Your body does not digest food well while you are sleeping.
4) Drink 8-10 glasses of water. It will help boost your metabolism, stops your water retention and clean out your body.
5) Do not eat highly refined carbs. Avoid products with added glucose and corn syrup. White bread and white pasta are both really bad as they are highly refined and are very quickly converted in your body and excess carbs are stored as fat. Not all fruits and vegetables are equal. Certain fruit are quite high in fructose, while natural, tends to be converted into fat if it is consumed in too high of quantities. Strawberries, blueberries, apples are really healthy. You can eat a lot of them and they will help fill you up.

Eating rice and potatoes is still ok as long as the portions are reasonable. The carbs in potatoes and rice are less refined than in bread.
6) Don't be afraid of meat. Your body needs protein to build muscle. Stay away from really fatty cuts of meat but you can eat beef, chicken, fish, pork chops.
7) Get some exercise. If you are not comfortable with your fitness level start by walking an hour a day if you can...it won't help build much muscle but it will burn calories and at least get you started. After you feel a little more comfortable with your fitness start doing more strenuous muscle building. Muscle weighs more than fat but it also burns off more calories than fat. As you gain muscle your metabolism will speed up.

I wish you well. Keep me updated on your challenges and successes!

Remember...you are special and, no matter what your weight is, I am sure there are people that love you. You need to love yourself too.

 

[roguehunter]

im sorry i didnt read this thread sooner, believe me, everything in life comes as a hurdle you have to jump over, in my opinion, please dont take the easy way out and run into it to knock it over, you might hurt yourself trying. you have courage saying what you said on here, and if you ever need someone to talk to, because that is better then givign advice, just PM me. im a great listoner, and id love to hear this story end with a happy ending.

 

[roguehunter]

alhthough im somewhat a bad speller*

 

[luminum]

I'm sure other guys have said this, but there are severe problems with weight loss due to eating disorders:

Starvation causes metaolism to decrease since your body is trying to conserve energy. So when you finally do eat somehing, it automatically becomes stored as fat since the body uses fat as a back up reserve. And since you body doesn't know the next time it's ever going to get nourishment, anything you give it will be stored away just in case. That's why in poor, starving, poverty-stricken countries, people will be happy about fat children and babies because they think it means health when it's usually the other way around since the child is starving and the body is just upping the fat to try to keep it alive.

Only by eating regularly (to a degree, not necessarily on the clock) will your body handle and process food correctly.

On top of that, replacing three meals with six smaller meals spread out more frequently over the day will keep your metabolism up. In the time between breakfast, lunch, and dinner, the metabolism slows, because food isn't being digested and its nutrients distributed. So little burning of anything is happening. By eating smaller meals (equivalent calorie intake) over shorter periods of time in between, you keep your metabolism boosted.

Also, cut back on foods or food products or drinks that have 'high fructose corn syrup' in their ingrediants. High fructose corn syrup is in almost everything and while it's not terrible to eat a little, the fact that it's everywhere is a problem. It was asynthetic sugar that obviously isot natural to the digestive system. So when it IS ingested, it gets changed into fat. Many suggest that one of the contributors to wide-spread obesity is the inclusion of high fructose corn syrup in almost every food product consumed. But slowly, you can make steps to cut it out of yoru diet by picking other food products that don't have it. For example, a lot of the juice mixes out there have high fructose corn syrup like rasberry-cherry stuff by OceanSpray. But Juicy Jucie surprisingly is accurate when it says that it contians 100% fruit juice. No HFCS at all! So I buy that instead when I want fruit juices. Most apple juices and orange juices don't have it in there, either. So just check the labels when you go grocery shopping Organics will usually never have stuff like that in them.

Finally, activity (excercise) also boost the metabolism (since now the body has a reason to distribute energy). So regular exercise (like three hours of cardiovascular work outs a week--sweating helps you know you're doing it right) will help out immensely. But, over-exercising will not promote muscle growth or very good health, since the body is so busy trying to sustain itself. So that's just as bad as purging or straving yourself.

The body needs a good amount of rest between exercise routines to function at its peak. trying to overdo that to excess will make you crash and everything will go haywire.

So try eating balanced, smaller meals over the course of your day, and every monday, Wednesday, and Friday, do about one hour of cardiovascular exercise.

 

[amyleeisjesus]

The most important thing is to drink approx 500ml of ice cold water 6 times a day, this burns more calories than it gives as your body has to heat the water up.

lol that is total bullshit. "Heat the water up"? What kind of quack doctor and/or Intarweb article said that?

Also, be wary of falling into the "eight glasses of water a day" trap. It's a wives' tale that really holds no weight. Water functions well as an appetite suppressant and obviously has its benefits, but overloading yourself on it isn't going to do any good. It's commonly perpetuated that you need to drink a lot to keep you "hydrated." Your own body takes care of that--it's called THIRST. Thirsty, not hydrated. Not thirsty, hydrated.



I tend to drink a good bit of water a day, but only because the alternatives scare me (e.g. pop, which I sometimes cave into when I decide I deserve it <3). And also maybe b/c I subconsciously like to fellate my water bottle or something. *oral fixation* I do juice too, and pretty much exclusively get the 100% kind. I try to avoid HFCS like I would a pussy. I like tea as well, but I usually can't be bothered with all the steps involved. I need "open, pour" simplicity.

 

[voyons]

Amyleeisjesus, I thoroughly disagree with your argument that water is only needed for thirst. Your cells need water to function properly. If adequate water is not provided, the cells try to get it from other sources (ie muscles) and this leaves your body bloated yet dehydrated. Furthermore, the liver has to spend more time trying to fight off the toxins in your body that would have been washed out by the ingestion of water. As a result, it becomes overstressed and is not as able to burn off fat as efficiently. Also, your muscles and joints function better when they are well lubricated. Exercise is easier when you aren't cramping up as much and you don't feel as sore the next day.

There are many ways to stay hydrated. I stated earlier that he should drink 8-10 glasses of water a day but I believe that foods that are high in water (ie lettuce) can count towards those 8-10 glasses. Caffeinated beverages such as tea and coffee also can count but not 1 cup of coffee doesn't equal 1 cup of water as caffeine has diuretic qualities.

 

[Christopher123]

lol that is total bullshit. "Heat the water up"? What kind of quack doctor and/or Intarweb article said that?

No, skaterboi is right, to a point.

Water suppresses the appetite naturally and helps the body metabolize stored fat. Nobody is saying to drink 10 gallons a day. But the body works to maintain a constant and consistent internal temperature. If you drink or eat something extremely cold, your body works a little harder to bring the temperature back up to where it's supposed to be, therefore your overall metabolism is increased. Slightly. Not significantly.

Granted you're not gonna burn, say, 1000 calories chugging ice water. They say it only speeds your metabolism by 5%. Which isn't much. And nobody is saying you can lose weight simply by drinking ice water alone. But it's true that your body 'revs' a little harder trying to warm the cold substance that has entered it.

No, it isn't a miracle weight loss cure. There are no miracle cures when it comes to weight loss. If there were, no one would be overweight. It's a simple matter of calories in vs calories out. If you eat more calories than your body burns, you're gonna gain weight. Regardless of how much ice water you drink.

 

[Christopher123]

There are many ways to stay hydrated. I stated earlier that he should drink 8-10 glasses of water a day but I believe that foods that are high in water (ie lettuce) can count towards those 8-10 glasses. Caffeinated beverages such as tea and coffee also can count but not 1 cup of coffee doesn't equal 1 cup of water as caffeine has diuretic qualities.

Exactly.

 

[dexyboi86]

Yanno, I have drank about a liter of water a day since i started this whole thing. I am not as hungry, and it makes me feel good. So medically sound or not, I am gonna do it.

 

[trawler69]

As a matter of interest if you drink a litre of water at 4 degrees c (fridge temperature) burns 33 food calories.

1/10 US gallon of kerosene =3396 food calories, just to give some perspective

 

[jakke]

Dexy: Please listen. FIRST, you need to find out what's "eating" YOU. If you're MD and insurance company won't help, please try to contact your county mental health organization or some other charity that can refer you to low cost or no cost mental health professionals. Self- discipline will not work until you come to realize WHY you have such low self-esteem. Get going my friend. I wish you all the best. You CAN change you life!!

THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST ADVICE ON THE WHOLE THREAD. PLEASE REALLY GIVE IT SOME CONSIDERATION. (The bold print is not to rag on you, but to point out that nditalynow really sounds like he cares and knows what he's talking about)

 

[wilehart1978]

I hope it's a cry for help. Those conditions could easily kill you or ruin what you call your social life. Meet some people who accept you for who you are. I realize we are part of the world's desire to have the perfect body - very few of us ever will achieve this goal. If your friends can't accept you for what is in your heart, dexy, you need new friends. I hope you choice not to go the eating disorder route in search of the perfect body.....in the end, it's not worth it.....read bios are actors such as Tracy Gold, Carnie Wilson even Karen Carpenter. IN the end it's your decision, but I pray you make the right decision.

As bad as I know anorexia/bulemia is, I am considering it.

I have got to lose weight, and it is not happening on my own power, and my BMI is so borderline (38.5) that my MD and insurance cannot/will not do anything.

I have even considered gaining more weight so my BMI will go up and I can get help.

My health is suffering, and so is my self-esteem and social life.

I don't know why I posted this. Maybe it is just a cry for help...

 

[voyons]

Dexyboi86...any news? How are things going?

 

[dexyboi86]

Dexyboi86...any news? How are things going?

Not really any news to speak of.
I am from a Southern family, so a lack of eating at Thanksgiving and Christmas is an insult. So I am on a provisional weight loss plan. January I will go full swing. Let me explain:

For exercise, I am doing simple stuff. Like parking my car further away form the building. Never using elevators. Leisurely strolls around school (in the hallways, it is very cold here).

Food wise, I am reducing my soda. I am eating at more expensive places, which means I can only afford reasonable portions. And almost completely cut out fast food.

So little by little, I change myself. No real weight loss as of yet, but mentally I am losing weight, if that makes any sense.

 

[voyons]

Good work!!!

Every success will make you feel better about yourself. It is tough at this time of year...make better choices, like control your portion sizes a little and you will start to see some positive changes.