A Discussion of Disparate Free Speech Principles [SPLIT]

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: ABC cancels "Roseanne" after star's racist tweet

The government does not grant rights, it recognizes them.

It's not raining right now, water is falling from the sky, you're welcome for making that distinction because they're two completely different things.

PS: Was just talking to my other half about our wedding plans, since the govt granted us the right [thanks Obama]

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Re: ABC cancels "Roseanne" after star's racist tweet

The government does not grant rights, it recognizes them.
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Not at all. We [Text: Removed] have a problem with bigotry. I don’t see how hard that is too understand.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: ABC cancels "Roseanne" after star's racist tweet

The government does not grant rights, it recognizes them.
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Per the edit: Call me what you want, I will never support hate speech, if that makes me a bad person here's an actual photo of me losing sleep over it

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[gsdx]

Re: ABC cancels "Roseanne" after star's racist tweet

Of course Roseanne and the players are not the same, however they are protected by the same Constitution.

Not anymore. Trump took that protection away from the players.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Re: ABC cancels "Roseanne" after star's racist tweet

Not anymore. Trump took that protection away from the players.

No, that is not true. The players can choose to protest anyway. In fact, if their teammates had half the balls their "profession" alleges to have, they'd drop to a knee in mass in solidarity, regardless of their politics, as the owners have no game at all if all were to unite.

Freedom of speech only means freedom from government censure, and Trump's approval and meddling in the NFL's position may be petty and repugnant, but he hasn't moved the government against players. They are indeed free to make their statements, even at the cost of their jobs or financial penalties from their employers.

 

[gsdx]

Re: ABC cancels "Roseanne" after star's racist tweet

No, that is not true. The players can choose to protest anyway.

That's the whole thing. The 'kneeling' isn't a right to 'free speech' issue. It's a right to 'peaceful protest' issue. Demanding that they stand during the anthem takes away their right to peaceful protest. The only 'unpeaceful' thing that's come out of it is Trump's big mouth. Those who think it's a 'free speech' thing don't know why the players are doing it in the first place.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: ABC cancels "Roseanne" after star's racist tweet

That's the whole thing. The 'kneeling' isn't a right to 'free speech' issue. It's a right to 'peaceful protest' issue. Demanding that they stand during the anthem takes away their right to peaceful protest. The only 'unpeaceful' thing that's come out of it is Trump's big mouth. Those who think it's a 'free speech' thing don't know why the players are doing it in the first place.

You're not even from our country and you get it better than some of these Americans.