A new country for LGBT people.

[PreTTy PeTe]

Wait, cursing around 15 year old boys is perverted now? Damn, I guess both my parents were perverted for cursing around me all the time as a teenager.

my apologies I always forget how fortunate I was when I was young.

I hope everything is better for you now.

 

[Vitamin]

my apologies I always forget how fortunate I was when I was young.

I hope everything is better for you now.

Someone who automatically associates spanking with child rape, yeah I don't envy your childhood.

I hope you managed to finally scare that uncle away.

 

[HunterM]

I would not want to live in such country. It's like asking me to only hang out with my white friends. Variety is the spice of life!

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

I have a country, thank you.

 

[Laufey]

* Ruled by a Queen (male).

* Neutral in international politics.

* Every home will have two gay men and one lesbian. The lesbians work as housemaids and baby-ovens from early age while the gay men will have access to college education and good jobs.

* Straight people not welcomed. A special institute will diagnose the sexuality of children at age 15. The children who turn out to be straight will either be cast away or forced to work in the mines.

 

[bankside]

Oh good. North Korea with sequins.

 

[Vitamin]

* Ruled by a Queen (male).

* Neutral in international politics.

* Every home will have two gay men and one lesbian. The lesbians work as housemaids and baby-ovens from early age while the gay men will have access to college education and good jobs.

* Straight people not welcomed. A special institute will diagnose the sexuality of children at age 15. The children who turn out to be straight will either be cast away or forced to work in the mines.

1. Sounds good.

2. As long as we can keep the missionaries away I'm cool with that.

3. That sounds very extreme and sexist. Lesbians need to be on equal footing with gay men if we want them to come on the island. Impregnation should be done either by IVF or if you prefer, turkey basters. Parental rights and responsibilities will ALL be made explicit in legal contracts beforehand and violators, both male and female, will be flogged mercilessly for being so stupid to bring a life into this world without doing something so simple first.

4. I would rather try electro-shock therapy for the straights first because I'm a kind, gentle soul who wants to them change their filthily hedonistic ways. If that doesn't work execution is always an option. I mean, we all know most pedophilia is heterosexual right?

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

Someone who automatically associates spanking with child rape, yeah I don't envy your childhood.

I hope you managed to finally scare that uncle away.

okay if you have to spank a child then you are abusing that child.

and wtf are you talking about an uncle?

are you delusional?

 

[Vitamin]

okay if you have to spank a child then you are abusing that child.

and wtf are you talking about an uncle?

are you delusional?

BS. Children need to be spanked sometimes. They grow into little snots otherwise.

Delusional? That's rich coming from someone who thinks spanking is child abuse.

 

[Laufey]

I feel sorry for people who can't think of other ways than violence to discipline their children.

This has been studied over and over again and it's pretty much a fact that you don't get better discipline results with physical violence.

Some people are stuck with this idea because it was done to them and they don't want to admit it was wrong because they don't want to think or say that what their parents did to them was wrong.

 

[Vitamin]

I feel sorry for people who can't think of other ways than violence to discipline their children.

This has been studied over and over again and it's pretty much a fact that you don't get better discipline results with physical violence.

Some people are stuck with this idea because it was done to them and they don't want to admit it was wrong because they don't want to think or say that what their parents did to them was wrong.

Again, BS. I was only spanked a couple of times as kid before I got the point that Mom was in charge. I would have done whatever I wanted otherwise.

I know myself. Maybe it doesn't work for every child, but I would have been a complete monster without it. Studies can kiss my ass. Nobody ever studied me.

 

[Laufey]

Studies don't need to study every single person on the planet to be accurate... just a large number of people.

Someone who does not get basic things like that is hardly fit for a discussion like this.

You can't make such an assumption like you just did. Maybe the other things they tried did not work but I'm sure they hadn't tried everything (since there are more successful methods than violence).

 

[Vitamin]

Studies don't need to study every single person on the planet to be accurate... just a large number of people.

Someone who does not get basic things like that is hardly fit for a discussion like this.

You can't make such an assumption like you just did. Maybe the other things they tried did not work but I'm sure they hadn't tried everything (since there are more successful methods than violence).

You don't know me. Nothing else would have. And it was only a couple of times for crying outloud. Even the most adamant proponents of anti-spanking acknowledge that there's absolutely nothing life-scaring about that.

Given the obnoxious state of children these days I would wager those other methods that seemed to work so well in a cozy doctors office have failed in real life. Bring spanking back.

 

[bendted]

Oh yes. I'd be the first one on the ship for sure.

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

BS. Children need to be spanked sometimes. They grow into little snots otherwise.

Delusional? That's rich coming from someone who thinks spanking is child abuse.

spanking is child abuse.

if you can't parent without resorting to violence then you should not be a parent.

I was never spanked or hit when I was growing up and I happen to think that I grew up a well defined and caring person.

 

[oakpope]

Guys, there is a thread about children education, it would be very kind of you to follow your discussions there, thank you !

I get that some people wouldn't want to leave their country and their friends. But sometime LGBT lives are pure hell where they live.

Do you remember a small group of people who had religious believes different from the majority and they felt discriminate ?
They went west to found a country with their rules and which would welcome people whatever their religion ?
I think it's called USA nowadays

Liberia was founded for the American slaves who wanted to return to Africa, to live free on their ancestor's land.

Israel was given (taken ?) for the persecuted jews after WWII (the consequences being inconsequential for this thread).

So I don't think my idea of founding a welcoming country for LBGT people would be so weird. It would not segregate against straight people, just LGBT would be the majority, with equal rights and protections for anyone.

 

[Laufey]

Iceland is 100 sq kilometers with only 300.000 people.

Only law enforcement that carries guns is a small SWAT team. No military.

Just us JUB members with guns could easily occupy the country and take over.

I would actually welcome it if it means getting rid of the current government lol.

Getting million gays here would be a good start so it's a big majority.

Or is it a must for a gay country to be tropical?

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

^okay back to topic.

why would you want to segregate yourself when you can move to place that is welcoming to gays.

that's limiting your potential to change the world

 

[eastofeden]

^ This.

Weren't some homophobes spouting a similar idea years ago, a seperate island for people with HIV/AIDS.

Yeah...Mike Huckabee

As for the original question...I can't get George Orwell out of my head.

 

[bankside]

Or is it a must for a gay country to be tropical?

No, not when Iceland has volcanic hot tubs.