ABC's One Life To Live -- dying???

[wilehart1978]

Robin Strasser played Dr. Christina Karras. She was paired with Jeff. She also was paired with Dr. David Thornton. Old AMC fans will remember, that he tried to poison his wife Edna Thornton but somehow ingested the poison. Christina was initally charged with David's death. She and Erica had some good scenes when Erica visited Christina in jail. When Robins Strasser took over for Claire Malis who took over the role from Nancy Pinkerton (what a Dorian she was), I thought it was odd because she was a good girl on AMC...Well, 20 years later, she is Dorian....

I so wish that could have happened on Y&R, I still find myself wondering what Brenda Dickson and Terry Lester (rip) would have done in earlier situations. Jess Walton and Peter Bergman are outstanding, but Bill Bell's casting of Brenda as Jill and Terry as Jack was flawless.

As for Brad, I love Don Diamont but there's not much left to write about. Unfortunately, the Winters are not much without Dru and having Devon have feelings for Lily is just an attempt to give them a storyline.

The Daniel/Kevin/Amber storyline with Plum was horrible and changing history by making Phillip Chancellor II not Jill's son and Cane the Chancellor heir was a classic case of bad writing. As OLTL when Jessica turned out to be Mitch's biological daughter and Victor Lord turned up alive. They didn't even have the right date of his death. His initial vault listed it as 1979. Victor died near 1977 to a suspicious Dorian being accused (at least by Viki) of killing him by withholding his medicine.

Writers now these days can't even begin to write like the Bill Bells, Agnes Nixons, Douglas Marlands of yesterday. That is the reason for my post....my beloved daytime is dying a very slow death.

Please don't get me started on Days of our Lives

The actress that plays Dorian on OLTL was on AMC as Christine and was married to one of the Martin boys. I think his name was Jeff. I used to watch that show all the time but now only see it a few times a year. I also watched OLTL back when Judith Light was on and she was the best thing in daytime at that moment.

 

[wilehart1978]

Yes, Karen Wolek. Pull up her famous courtroom scene on Youtube. Incredible writing and acting by both her and Anthony Call (Herb) -- just superb!!!


Once correction from one of the posts. Larry was not Viki's brother. He was married to Viki's sister Meredith. He married Karen who was also a Wolek (they were distant cousins)

I remember Judith..she played Karen right?

 

[skinIsIn]

What, absolutly no love for Pine Valley??

I forever heart Erica Kane, though presently I want to stab Kendall through the TV screen!!

That is all...carry on!

"way to be, AMC!!!"

 

[WilsonPhillips4Ever]

Losing Renée Elise Goldsberry (Evangeline) was the biggest mistake OLTL has made since recasting Marty Saybrooke.

 

[dannybye]

Wilehart1978 you are quite the expert on all things OLTL. I had forgot about Vicki,s sister I just knew Larry was related to Vicki somehow and Karen was the only wife I could remember. I also thought I mispelled the last name but I was at least close though. Did you also watch AMC. I mostly stuck to ABC soaps but I did watch YnR back in the day when David Hasselhoff played Snapper and they had the Brook Sisters my favorite sister was played by Jamie Lynn Bauer but she posed for Hustler Magazine and I lost all respect for her. Guess that should have been my first clue that I wasnt as straight as I thought I was.

 

[dalton41]

The soap industry is dying.. Ratings have been falling since the late 90s, and they are making less money. They practically have budget cuts every single year. Eventually I wouldn't be surprise if ABC drops one of their soap shows, and just broadcast two. Maybe even cut one of them to 30 minutes, and just have a 90 minute block.

Starting this fall NBC will only have one soap.. Call me crazy, but they may just drop Days of our lives in a couple of years. The only reason they canceled Passions is due to them actually OWNING the show, and they weren't making any money off the show. If they owned Day of Our Lives.. it would have been dropped along with Passions.

I have no idea what CBS will do, but its the only network that broadcasts a soap in HD(Young and the Restless). General Hospital was suppose to be the first soap on ABC to go HD a year ago, but I guess due to budget cuts they decided not to even bother with it.

Hell.. these soap operas can't even keep a damn head writer for a freaking year, before changing. I'm still pissed at the writers of One Life... for dropping the Evangeline/Todd storyline. They really dropped the ball on that one(even the guy who plays Todd was pissed). I know that there were issues with the lady who plays Evangline contract... but she's a terrific actress, and I would have kept her.

I don't believe that the soaps are dying, just relocating to the Soap Nework where they can be seen without interruptions by late breaking news and other events. In addition, on weekends, there is a five hour block of repeats of the soaps that aired during the week. Missed an episode, no worries.

But you're right about the head writers. Years ago, soaps were considered a vast wasteland of wannabe actors and writers. But now, alot them are moving on to better projects.

 

[pisces_ken02]

I don't believe that the soaps are dying, just relocating to the Soap Nework where they can be seen without interruptions by late breaking news and other events. In addition, on weekends, there is a five hour block of repeats of the soaps that aired during the week. Missed an episode, no worries.

But you're right about the head writers. Years ago, soaps were considered a vast wasteland of wannabe actors and writers. But now, alot them are moving on to better projects.

I wouldn't be surprise if Disney/ABC decided to drop the daytime lineup in the near future, and just air them on SoapNet instead. But you are definitly on to something.. there is going to be a shift of some shows.. maybe the entire lineup to SoapNet.

Basically IMO.. there will be only a few soaps on network TV in the future, and the rest will be on cable. The times have changed. There is no longer a one stop time for soaps.. which was basically daytime. You can catchup with the soaps in the evening or the weekend(marathon). Plus.. ratings are terrible, and they are not making any money.

 

[wilehart1978]

Yeah, Danny,

Yes, I loved AMC and GH...Other than Y&R, I was an ABC soap junkee...even Ryan's Hope for a while. I was more CBS soaps on a parttime basis..but I must admit GL and ATWT were the best in the mid 80's....when ABC soaps flourished. Sad to say I believe ABC soaps are horrible...GH has become a daytime Goodfellas...and Y&R has posted some of the worst storylines...I think killing off John Abbott and writing out Ashley were a mistake. I like the Gloria character, but it's time for her to pay for her crimes.

OLTL is a joke and AMC had some big moments but I had enough when Greg Madden was burried alive.

My problem is I love soaps but am really growing tired of what Beck calls the "Daytime Crap"....it's becoming worst than crap.

I have been a Y&R fan since I was around 10. I have followed it for close to three decades..Yes, I remember David Hasselhoff and William Gray Espy -- the first Snapper...Brenda Dickson and Terry Lester were jewels during the 80's...I wish CBS would fire Lynn Latham before Y&R's rating erode to nothing!

Wilehart1978 you are quite the expert on all things OLTL. I had forgot about Vicki,s sister I just knew Larry was related to Vicki somehow and Karen was the only wife I could remember. I also thought I mispelled the last name but I was at least close though. Did you also watch AMC. I mostly stuck to ABC soaps but I did watch YnR back in the day when David Hasselhoff played Snapper and they had the Brook Sisters my favorite sister was played by Jamie Lynn Bauer but she posed for Hustler Magazine and I lost all respect for her. Guess that should have been my first clue that I wasnt as straight as I thought I was.

 

[renegade_killerbee]

I was kinda surprised to see this posted in the Male Celebrity Gossip section but oh, well. And no, wile, I don't think "One Life to Live" is in danger.

It actually beats "All My Children" in the ratings most weeks and I seriously don't think any of the ABC soaps are in danger (at least for the next five years). And I too was upset at the axing of Phil Carey. Here's a copy of the letter I e-mailed to numerous soap publications including Soap Opera Digest, ABC Soaps In Depth, and of course net places like www.soaptownusa.com:

So John Loprieno is coming back as Cord, Nathan Fillion as Joey, etc. for Asa's funeral? Basically just about everybody except for Judith Light as Karen Wolek will be coming back for this 10,000th special episode.

Don't you think there's one vital actor/character missing from this?

Phil Carey who played Asa Buchanan for 28 years! Why do I feel I should be owing such a huge amount of thanks to "One Life To Live" because they're bringing back all our faves for Asa's funeral. I'm not. I am insulted and embarassed for Carey, who opted out of the show once they cut him to recurring.

During this special show I am going to be wondering if Carey is at home watching and wishing that he could have had a few more months to play these scenes out with actors he has worked with for decades. This whole thing is a slap in the face to a very special man -- the actor, not the character.

I hate it when our shows try to take advantage of our senses and mislead us. In this case, they're wanting us to think they're doing a wonderful and sensitive thing by honoring "Asa Buchanan," but they're not; they're taking advantage of a situation to get ratings and it's all at the expense of Phil Carey (hi, OLTL, Carey is still alive!).

I'm gonna watch the show. Maybe even tape it to preserve it because in about five years from now (if OLTL is still on), there won't be anything on the Llanview canvas as classy and entertaining as Carey is/was.

Shame on you, OLTL. There is nothing special about your 10,000 show. Just an embarassment of embarassments.

Check out my MySpace page, though, for a lot of SOAP STUDS:

www.myspace.com/iluvdaytimedramas

*** KEVIN IN SOUTH TULSA ***

 

[wilehart1978]

Renegrade,

How true!! The 10,000 episode aired on August 17 and for the most part was nothing special. Yes, they brought back old characters -- even Alex Olanov. I just don't understand why Phil Carey and Stuart Damon were so expendable given the shallow, absurd characters created for today's soaps.

The 10,000 episode for OLTL was boring, lifeless and included this time yet another showdown between Viki and Dorian. Sadly to say, the writing is so poor even a classic showdown like that was lackluster. It's simply time to get better writers, characters and storylines because out of the five soaps I presently videotape and watch, none really are that enjoyable. But, I'm loyal and will continue to watch because nothing stays bad forever.

Right now, daytime is starting to become clueless as to what made soaps popular in the first place...yes, sexy bodies are nice and eye candy but even the hottest of actors put in unbelievable or tired storylines make them just as unwatchable as a rerun of Divorce Court.

Renegade, I hope none of our soaps die, but how long can anyone stay on life support....

I was kinda surprised to see this posted in the Male Celebrity Gossip section but oh, well. And no, wile, I don't think "One Life to Live" is in danger.

It actually beats "All My Children" in the ratings most weeks and I seriously don't think any of the ABC soaps are in danger (at least for the next five years). And I too was upset at the axing of Phil Carey. Here's a copy of the letter I e-mailed to numerous soap publications including Soap Opera Digest, ABC Soaps In Depth, and of course net places like www.soaptownusa.com:

So John Loprieno is coming back as Cord, Nathan Fillion as Joey, etc. for Asa's funeral? Basically just about everybody except for Judith Light as Karen Wolek will be coming back for this 10,000th special episode.

Don't you think there's one vital actor/character missing from this?

Phil Carey who played Asa Buchanan for 28 years! Why do I feel I should be owing such a huge amount of thanks to "One Life To Live" because they're bringing back all our faves for Asa's funeral. I'm not. I am insulted and embarassed for Carey, who opted out of the show once they cut him to recurring.

During this special show I am going to be wondering if Carey is at home watching and wishing that he could have had a few more months to play these scenes out with actors he has worked with for decades. This whole thing is a slap in the face to a very special man -- the actor, not the character.

I hate it when our shows try to take advantage of our senses and mislead us. In this case, they're wanting us to think they're doing a wonderful and sensitive thing by honoring "Asa Buchanan," but they're not; they're taking advantage of a situation to get ratings and it's all at the expense of Phil Carey (hi, OLTL, Carey is still alive!).

I'm gonna watch the show. Maybe even tape it to preserve it because in about five years from now (if OLTL is still on), there won't be anything on the Llanview canvas as classy and entertaining as Carey is/was.

Shame on you, OLTL. There is nothing special about your 10,000 show. Just an embarassment of embarassments.

Check out my MySpace page, though, for a lot of SOAP STUDS:

www.myspace.com/iluvdaytimedramas

*** KEVIN IN SOUTH TULSA ***

 

[wilehart1978]

Renegade,

Not to change the subject, but you have some really awesome pics on your myself. You're quite a nice looking man!

I was kinda surprised to see this posted in the Male Celebrity Gossip section but oh, well. And no, wile, I don't think "One Life to Live" is in danger.

It actually beats "All My Children" in the ratings most weeks and I seriously don't think any of the ABC soaps are in danger (at least for the next five years). And I too was upset at the axing of Phil Carey. Here's a copy of the letter I e-mailed to numerous soap publications including Soap Opera Digest, ABC Soaps In Depth, and of course net places like www.soaptownusa.com:

So John Loprieno is coming back as Cord, Nathan Fillion as Joey, etc. for Asa's funeral? Basically just about everybody except for Judith Light as Karen Wolek will be coming back for this 10,000th special episode.

Don't you think there's one vital actor/character missing from this?

Phil Carey who played Asa Buchanan for 28 years! Why do I feel I should be owing such a huge amount of thanks to "One Life To Live" because they're bringing back all our faves for Asa's funeral. I'm not. I am insulted and embarassed for Carey, who opted out of the show once they cut him to recurring.

During this special show I am going to be wondering if Carey is at home watching and wishing that he could have had a few more months to play these scenes out with actors he has worked with for decades. This whole thing is a slap in the face to a very special man -- the actor, not the character.

I hate it when our shows try to take advantage of our senses and mislead us. In this case, they're wanting us to think they're doing a wonderful and sensitive thing by honoring "Asa Buchanan," but they're not; they're taking advantage of a situation to get ratings and it's all at the expense of Phil Carey (hi, OLTL, Carey is still alive!).

I'm gonna watch the show. Maybe even tape it to preserve it because in about five years from now (if OLTL is still on), there won't be anything on the Llanview canvas as classy and entertaining as Carey is/was.

Shame on you, OLTL. There is nothing special about your 10,000 show. Just an embarassment of embarassments.

Check out my MySpace page, though, for a lot of SOAP STUDS:

www.myspace.com/iluvdaytimedramas

*** KEVIN IN SOUTH TULSA ***

 

[renegade_killerbee]

Thanks Wile. And no, I'm not a soap opera star myself.

Just enjoy them.

*** KEVIN IN SOUTH TULSA ***

 

[tinkyjem]

I think Killing Asa off was out of respect for the Actor that played him...... I don't think he is doing well at all. Replacing him would just be wrong, JUST LIKE GH did when replacing Edward.......thank god they didn't do that with Lila. Alan shouldn't have been killed I agree

 

[renegade_killerbee]

I somewhat agree with bidude a lot when it comes to The Rappaports. Funny because when they were brought on (late 1997), I hated them and so did a lot of the soap press. With the exception of Will who was easy on the eyes but Jason Shane-Scott was a horrific actor, I grew to adore all of them.

Jen's death by Nora's bi-sexual politician wannabe husband in early 2005 was gorgeous, gorgeous perfection soap opera!!! Mmmmm.

Now that stuff should be shown all over on YouTube!!!

*** KEVIN IN SOUTH TULSA ***

 

[pisces_ken02]

renegade.. I agree the ABC soaps are not in danger, but they are definitely on life support. and again.. I wouldn't be surprise if ABC decides to drop the daytime lineup to cable instead in the near future. This isn't the only genre that is suffering on network tv.. some of the best shows on TV are now on cable television, and have kicked the networks ass during the 2006-2007 season.

But NBC daytime will definitely be gone in 3 or 5 years.

BTW guys.. the new head writer of One Life started last week(he want last long).

 

[jon750]

Losing Renée Elise Goldsberry (Evangeline) was the biggest mistake OLTL has made since recasting Marty Saybrooke.

I second your comment about the beautiful and talented REG.Plus she and Michael Easton where electric together[JoVan so much more believable as a couple than the chemistry free Jolie],also her great scenes with the character Todd were always compelling haven't watch the show for more than a minute since she left,it has truly gone downhill.

 

[jon750]

Lynn Latham is destroying Y&R piece by piece. Killing John , getting rid of Ashley, that dreadful "Nazi reliquary" story....Bill Bell must be spinning in his grave.

I totally agree,the show is a shadow of what it once was,and replacing Davetta Sherwood with thje original actress who started the role of Lily,and who Davetta was superior to as a recast was a major mistake IMO. And losing the exciting one of a kind Victoria Rowell hasn't helped matters.

 

[JOUPER]

I still miss "Santa Barbara."

Best.

Soap.

Ever.

I Loved "SANTA BARBARA",It Was Unlike Any Other Soap Completely Original!

 

[renegade_killerbee]

"Santa Barbara" was the best daytime drama ever. My absolute favorite scene was in the summer of 1986 when Kirk (Robert Newman) threw Marcy Walker's Eden into a pool of shark-infested water.

Wait a minute!!! Sheryilyn Wolters' Eleanor killing herself and as she lay dying in her father C.C. Capwell's arms, she mustered out the words, "Cruz killed me ... daddy!"

Or the early days when Nancy Lee Grahn's Julia Wainwright would fantasize over her hunky nephew (you know the stud that was in "Hunk." Hell who wouldn't be incestuous over him!?!).

Anyways, back to "One Life." I don't think the new head writer is going anywhere soon. The soap press is absolutely nuts about him and very, very happy Dena Higley is gone. She was NEVER liked and managed a run on that show for three years!!!

*** KEVIN IN SOUTH TULSA ***

my pics and soap page: www.myspace.com/iluvdaytimedramas

 

[willsboy84]

The Young and the Restless has really gone downhill, I gave up when they brought back Kevin's psycho girlfriend, Jana, and her annoying accent that comes and goes. There are still hot guys on the show, Adrien, Michael Baldwin, and his hot little brother Kevin, but Daniel has overstayed his welcome, his bedhed hair and limited acting talent are so tired. While we're at it, why not do something to really shake up the show, like ATWT, my new soap addiction, and run a gay story line with two hot guys. It's also time to pull the plug on the entire Winters family,without Drew who walked last spring, they are all so boring, get rid of them and bring in some new blood. Bill Bell would be so sad to see this once great soap gone so far off course...

Another loyal Y & R fan letting go...

okay speaking of Michael Baldwin I have a question that's bugged me for awhile. now i can see them redeeming him for his sexual harrassment of Christine, but didn't he also MURDER a chick back when that storyline was happening. I could be wrong, but i thought he'd been dating some chick who found out about some of the stuff he was up to and he ended up killing her to keep it quiet. not sure though cuz back then i was mainly just watching Y&R for Scott Reeves.