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Active Duty's New Bi Site

Straight really isn't a good term to describe the guys on Active Duty. I'm not sure that gay or bi describes them either.

A guy I know has done videos for them who self -identifies as straight, but has sex with men from time to time. He mentioned that after he did his shoot for AD, the models want to to stay and party and asked him to hang out and have sex after the shoot. He didn't have time to stay, but probably would have.
 
Most of the guys on Active Duty are marketed as being straight so maybe this will work.

I'd be interested in seeing Thomas fuck a chick. I don't think girls are an instant boner killer. It will probably still be a draw.


What's the URL to the new site?

You know that's great to hear you are not totally repulsed by women, considering you identify yourself as Bi :rolleyes:

We (StraightFraternity) do shoots with girls all the time,however we dont post them on our site,We just do it to get Real straight guys,So for us the str8 shoots are just for model recruitment

:rolleyes: Yeah and I'm Santa.

^ So you do a straight shoot to get them into the studio then afterwards you discuss other options?? I guess a lot of effort goes into recruiting str8 guys and you shoot a lot of vids that are never used. Interesting.

Jaxon, just remember JUB seems to now be overrun with website promoters promoting their products. Many of these sites promote straight men, so therefore they have to keep up that illusion of saying they entice straight men. It's all part of the advertising spiel. Porn companies over the years have proven themselves to be liars the majority of the time.

actually its reversed,they come in to do a solo jack off scene, if our members like them they get to do more shoots,during the solo i put them moves on them,its not discussed before hand,some guys let me some dont......

after that,we do a contest shoot(gay chicken) the winner gets to fuck the girl,When I 1st started out i didnt have the capitol to pay big bucks for str8 guys to go gay for pay,but i found guys would do alot just to be with the girl.

our recruitment is a very slow process,and the guys arent always 10's but they are straight and thats the fetish we dont compromise on.I hate sites that claim thier guys are straight and I see them in gay bar ,or out with thier boyfriend.

We do alot of shoots that are never posted on our pay site(with girls) but they arent wasted,we post them on a free site so New guys can see the payoff and they can show thier friends without them seeing the gay stuff.

Yeah, I hate gay porn sites that lie too :rolleyes:.

If you had the content as if you wouldn't post it. You could make more money, which you would need after hiring the prostitute and paying for guys expenses. :rolleyes:

Straight really isn't a good term to describe the guys on Active Duty. I'm not sure that gay or bi describes them either.

A guy I know has done videos for them who self -identifies as straight, but has sex with men from time to time. He mentioned that after he did his shoot for AD, the models want to to stay and party and asked him to hang out and have sex after the shoot. He didn't have time to stay, but probably would have.

Key word self identifies. He is either a very sad closet homosexual unwilling to admit the truth or at the very least is bi.

As for the new site, It will probably get the revenue from people, however when will gay porn sites realise that the more they introduce bisexuality, the more it will turn gay men away and they will lose profit in the long run, which despite how the companies play down claims, gay porn is losing money each year.

I don't have a problem with bisexual sites, I just wish they wouldn't piggy back off the gay sites in the hope of getting more money, usually at the expense of gay porn and the sad spin that these guys are straight, when they are as gay as they come.
 
You know that's great to hear you are not totally repulsed by women, considering you identify yourself as Bi :rolleyes:



:rolleyes: Yeah and I'm Santa.



Jaxon, just remember JUB seems to now be overrun with website promoters promoting their products. Many of these sites promote straight men, so therefore they have to keep up that illusion of saying they entice straight men. It's all part of the advertising spiel. Porn companies over the years have proven themselves to be liars the majority of the time.



Yeah, I hate gay porn sites that lie too :rolleyes:.

If you had the content as if you wouldn't post it. You could make more money, which you would need after hiring the prostitute and paying for guys expenses. :rolleyes:

scroll up the beast, if you look, you will see i posted the link to our straight shoots, and its free.....i didnt say we didnt post it, i said we didnt post it on our pay site, its free to everyone

Key word self identifies. He is either a very sad closet homosexual unwilling to admit the truth or at the very least is bi.

As for the new site, It will probably get the revenue from people, however when will gay porn sites realise that the more they introduce bisexuality, the more it will turn gay men away and they will lose profit in the long run, which despite how the companies play down claims, gay porn is losing money each year.

I don't have a problem with bisexual sites, I just wish they wouldn't piggy back off the gay sites in the hope of getting more money, usually at the expense of gay porn and the sad spin that these guys are straight, when they are as gay as they come.

scroll up the beast, if you look, you will see i posted the link to our straight shoots, and its free.....i didnt say we didnt post it, i said we didnt post it on our pay site, its free to everyone
 
As for the new site, It will probably get the revenue from people, however when will gay porn sites realise that the more they introduce bisexuality, the more it will turn gay men away and they will lose profit in the long run, which despite how the companies play down claims, gay porn is losing money each year.

I don't have a problem with bisexual sites, I just wish they wouldn't piggy back off the gay sites in the hope of getting more money, usually at the expense of gay porn and the sad spin that these guys are straight, when they are as gay as they come.

If the gay porn market is constricting, then the only thing good producers can do is to go look for new markets, which Dink is doing. Piggybacking off the main site only makes sense since that's where his present market is. I'm not getting how you figure 'sad spin that these guys are straight, when they are as gay as they come' matches up to these guys fucking women in a bi film. None of these guys are having a gun pointed to their head (though I can see Dink trying something like that as a joke when he's drunk, tired and horny and with a deadline looming). If they're 100%-ish gay, they just don't have to do the Bi Barracks stuff. It would certainly be a twist on straight-for-pay, though ;)

I would imagine the type of market this particular video is going to appeal to is:

- Active Duty fans who are happily bi,

- Active Duty female fans (yeah, you heard it here... females - straight or bi) who can bridge the gaygap easily,

- Curious men (and women, too) who use 'bi' as an introduction to the Active Duty catalogue,

- Active Duty fans of the models who'll take what they can get (now, Cole, get Shane, Kody and Dean back, damned it... .),

- Potential Active Duty models who would actually prefer to start doing bi stuff before mysteriously finding themselves with their cocks up the asses of other straight-ish guys,

- Active Duty fans who may like the 'look' of Active Duty models but who can deal with the fact the models aren't necessarily now military (especially the females) and this won't affect the fans' preference.

It's hard to gauge how Dink is going to integrate the Bi Barracks site with Active Duty but since he's the moneybags of the thing, it seems only right that he ties his diversifying empire together somehow to max out potential profits and Active Duty must be the most popular umbrella site for his enterprises.

The Bi Barracks is too new of a concept to simply be thrown out into the cold, cold world of niche-y interweb porn, I reckon. And why should it be?

And he certainly has a... um... soft (?) spot for Cole who never did look entirely comfortable doing all-gay-all-the-time. Cole is a moneymaker, that's for sure, and I think Dink's smart enough to realize that by giving Cole a showcase for old and new fans and keeping Cole happy, he'll still make everyone money. Knowing Dink, he probably has some rider in Cole's contract that for every three or four bi films he produces, Cole's gotta appear in one of Dink's scenes.

And if you really don't like the bi-side, just stay on the gay part of the site. Still lots of content coming out of that part.

If anything is taking away from from momentum at Active Duty, I think its Dink's attempts at movies with a script like The Ringleader or The Porn Ultimatum. I much prefer the natural banter between the models and Dink than these outings with badly-spoken lined and overly-produced vehicles that take more time, money and effort to produce and leave me, at least, less satisfied.

Another interesting thing to see will be how they cast the women in these these films and if the tone of the films will remain focused on the m-m action or if the m-f-m action will even out over time and how the female models will be chosen.

I actually prefer the females to be there but not starring and chewing the scenery (or other bits #-o). But it would be interesting to see how Dink (and, I guess, Cole?) sees how their market builds and what that market actually wants.

And Dink's G-A-Y. His main market and main focus will always remain gay 'cause that's him. If some gay men turn away from Active Duty because of one link to Bi Barracks or a couple of feed-ins, then I figure they were going to turn away from Active Duty for any other number of reasons. I think it'll be those reasons that the site would lose money, not because of Bi Barracks.

Huh. Ken. Now there was one fucking lovely moaner (at least with Cole). He'd be nice to see in any permutation. <- tangent
 
The problem will be guys wantingto do bi stuff instead of Active Duty...... and the girls are not hot they are using i can see this site folding by the end of the year..... mixing girls with some of active duties hotties will turn ppl away..... u should of did another gay site....
 
I'm a fan of the oldies (kody, Dean etc) but I will not watch them in a scene with another woman, as I'm sure many of us won't. Sorry, I don't see it making enough money to justify doing it.
 
If the gay porn market is constricting, then the only thing good producers can do is to go look for new markets, which Dink is doing. Piggybacking off the main site only makes sense since that's where his present market is. I'm not getting how you figure 'sad spin that these guys are straight, when they are as gay as they come' matches up to these guys fucking women in a bi film. None of these guys are having a gun pointed to their head (though I can see Dink trying something like that as a joke when he's drunk, tired and horny and with a deadline looming). If they're 100%-ish gay, they just don't have to do the Bi Barracks stuff. It would certainly be a twist on straight-for-pay, though ;)

I would imagine the type of market this particular video is going to appeal to is:

- Active Duty fans who are happily bi,

- Active Duty female fans (yeah, you heard it here... females - straight or bi) who can bridge the gaygap easily,

- Curious men (and women, too) who use 'bi' as an introduction to the Active Duty catalogue,

- Active Duty fans of the models who'll take what they can get (now, Cole, get Shane, Kody and Dean back, damned it... .),

- Potential Active Duty models who would actually prefer to start doing bi stuff before mysteriously finding themselves with their cocks up the asses of other straight-ish guys,

- Active Duty fans who may like the 'look' of Active Duty models but who can deal with the fact the models aren't necessarily now military (especially the females) and this won't affect the fans' preference.

It's hard to gauge how Dink is going to integrate the Bi Barracks site with Active Duty but since he's the moneybags of the thing, it seems only right that he ties his diversifying empire together somehow to max out potential profits and Active Duty must be the most popular umbrella site for his enterprises.

The Bi Barracks is too new of a concept to simply be thrown out into the cold, cold world of niche-y interweb porn, I reckon. And why should it be?

And he certainly has a... um... soft (?) spot for Cole who never did look entirely comfortable doing all-gay-all-the-time. Cole is a moneymaker, that's for sure, and I think Dink's smart enough to realize that by giving Cole a showcase for old and new fans and keeping Cole happy, he'll still make everyone money. Knowing Dink, he probably has some rider in Cole's contract that for every three or four bi films he produces, Cole's gotta appear in one of Dink's scenes.

And if you really don't like the bi-side, just stay on the gay part of the site. Still lots of content coming out of that part.

If anything is taking away from from momentum at Active Duty, I think its Dink's attempts at movies with a script like The Ringleader or The Porn Ultimatum. I much prefer the natural banter between the models and Dink than these outings with badly-spoken lined and overly-produced vehicles that take more time, money and effort to produce and leave me, at least, less satisfied.

Another interesting thing to see will be how they cast the women in these these films and if the tone of the films will remain focused on the m-m action or if the m-f-m action will even out over time and how the female models will be chosen.

I actually prefer the females to be there but not starring and chewing the scenery (or other bits #-o). But it would be interesting to see how Dink (and, I guess, Cole?) sees how their market builds and what that market actually wants.

And Dink's G-A-Y. His main market and main focus will always remain gay 'cause that's him. If some gay men turn away from Active Duty because of one link to Bi Barracks or a couple of feed-ins, then I figure they were going to turn away from Active Duty for any other number of reasons. I think it'll be those reasons that the site would lose money, not because of Bi Barracks.

Huh. Ken. Now there was one fucking lovely moaner (at least with Cole). He'd be nice to see in any permutation. <- tangent

Your first comment does not make any sense as the reason the gay porn market is so constricting and small is that people like Dink, Cruise & whoever always have to introduce bisexuality into the equation thus cutting out the male sex angle all to satisfy the gay mans delusion that he can somehow seduce a heterosexual man.

The piggybacking makes sense in terms of money, realistically it isn't very feasible as guess what, Dink's market is primarily homosexual, not bisexual. Ergo, more money in the homosexual market.

With the sad spin issue, it's tiring that all these gay websites pass off gay men as straight, when their assholes have been drilled, they suck and fuck on a REGULAR basis and most of them are private prostitutes, as they have admitted themselves. Not to mention if they found dick so repulsive they would not be continuing in the gay porn field. Some people think money can make you do anything in life, a few grand cannot give you the will to fuck men, it can only act like alcohol and make you more open to suggestion. The desires were already there and only the emotionless sex argument will get you so far. If they were truly straight, the staright porn field is always open to them.

There is no disputing bisexual fans of AD. However is there enough to justify a whole website?

LMAO at female AD fans. The few that they have, and that is being very presuptious would not contribute much to the cost and certainly would not be a motivating factor in making a bi site. Women generally are usually repulsed by gay sex, don't understand it, so therefore aren't turned on by it or see it as a waste. The porn that sells with women is geared to the female interest (that does not include hard gay sex; it's sensual shit) and if they liked bi porn they would prefer it be made by straight poeple with the intention of putting the female first. Gay bi porn might interest some, but hardly any at all.

AD is not really the same as other porn sites as the majority of the guys actually have a military background and would lose a lot more than they would gain, so the gay for pay theory is invalid. The men that go to AD are gay, either open or closeted or bi. By suddenly introducing pussy it will encourage straight men and if they are truly straight would have no interest in guy contact, not to mention they would lose a hell of a lot if they were found out.

Please wake up, Bi porn is a niche in itself. Everything apart from basic straight and gay porn is a niche.

I don't know who Cole is, but rest assured no one who has any business sense is going to let one model dictate an entire site. That prima donna attitude isn't going to last long in porn.

I don't have a problem with bi sex, I just don't like bi sex being piggy backed and promoted through GAY sex sites.

To be honest, I don't watch a lot of his work, so I haven't noticed the difference in his scripted work. But if the guys are hot who gives a fuck what the script is.

Most women in bi sex focused film are ugly whores. The hottest ones do dyke porn and the mediocre with the occassional hot one do straight sex. All the drugged out ones and real mean looking sluts do bi sex porn. Evidence India Summers and the chicks at Next Studios and Cruise. Nasty, nasty looking women on there.

The females never do anything intersted in Gay/Bi porn. They just bend over either looking stupid, drugged out or uninterested and pretend to fight the guy over the cock.

Dink maybe gay, but Dink will only produce the porn that is selling and making the most moula.

If the adds on AD become intrusive, then gay men will turn away, as plenty of other sites offer hot men without pussy.

I'm trying to work out if you're Dink, a promoter and someone really deluded.

The problem will be guys wantingto do bi stuff instead of Active Duty...... and the girls are not hot they are using i can see this site folding by the end of the year..... mixing girls with some of active duties hotties will turn ppl away..... u should of did another gay site....

Maybe for the closet cases and ones with things to lose. My main problem is less gay content and the slow introduction of pussy into more of the scenes.
 
Your first comment does not make any sense as the reason the gay porn market is so constricting and small is that people like Dink, Cruise & whoever always have to introduce bisexuality into the equation thus cutting out the male sex angle all to satisfy the gay mans delusion that he can somehow seduce a heterosexual man.

Hey man, leave us out of it.

We've never had a women in a sex scene on Jake Cruise or Cocksure Men .

We do have a separate site altogether with men having sex with women, but something you might notice is that there's lots of very straight men who are ONLY on that site and there's lots of men who are on Cocksure Men or Jake Cruise who are NEVER on SG4GE having sex with women.

Just because YOU might not like to see men with women.. there are lots of gay men who DO. The one thing I've learned about porn is that there's a market for anything.

I do agree, oddly enough, that trying to being in a new market is dangerous if you run the risk of alienating your core audience. Telling people "just don't watch that" isn't always a good idea.

We'll see if it works. I do know from our customer mail that one of the biggest complaints is that people aren't able to have a joint membership with two or all three of our sites under one membership fee... so there's certainly a market for it.
 
This discussion is starting to sound a little anal - so to speak.
It's porn.
If you don't like it, don't watch it.
I for one like what Active Duty produces. My preference would be for less women and less of Barrett Long's soft dick.
 
I think there are still some new frontiers that can be explored in bi porn. In real world swinging, a whole lot of men are into cuckholding, but I've never seen bi cuckholding porn. There are a few "fuck my wife" sites, where two real porn stars are put in a scene with an out-of-work actor who's supposed to be the girl's husband but they're so totally unbelievable. That's not real cuckholding.
 
Hey man, leave us out of it.

We've never had a women in a sex scene on Jake Cruise or Cocksure Men .

We do have a separate site altogether with men having sex with women, but something you might notice is that there's lots of very straight men who are ONLY on that site and there's lots of men who are on Cocksure Men or Jake Cruise who are NEVER on SG4GE having sex with women.

Just because YOU might not like to see men with women.. there are lots of gay men who DO. The one thing I've learned about porn is that there's a market for anything.

I do agree, oddly enough, that trying to being in a new market is dangerous if you run the risk of alienating your core audience. Telling people "just don't watch that" isn't always a good idea.

We'll see if it works. I do know from our customer mail that one of the biggest complaints is that people aren't able to have a joint membership with two or all three of our sites under one membership fee... so there's certainly a market for it.

I never said you had a women on your two gay sites, but that straight site could have easily been a gay site. I just don't want new bi sites to squeeze out gay competition and a don't want produces starting to introduce pussy in gay scenes.

I have said I don't have a problem with hetero sex, I just don't think it has any place being piggy backed off gay porn sites. If gay men want to watch staright porno then go to review sites or find the straight porn in their own time so gay porn sites don't have to advertise and put this big spin on it like it's going to be great or presenting it as the new in thing.

I actually wanted to say Chi Chi. Cruise actually created a new gay site after the weirdo bi site, so he does deserve credit there.

Maybe they want a joint membership to Cocksure only? I'm not saying there isn't a market but I'm sick and tired of porn producers lying and saying the market is huge and queers are just going to flock to it to see their favourite star in ANY action which is bullshit.

This discussion is starting to sound a little anal - so to speak.
It's porn.
If you don't like it, don't watch it.
I for one like what Active Duty produces. My preference would be for less women and less of Barrett Long's soft dick.

I don't like and I won't watch it, but I'll still express my opinion, if that's all right with you.

I think there are still some new frontiers that can be explored in bi porn. In real world swinging, a whole lot of men are into cuckholding, but I've never seen bi cuckholding porn. There are a few "fuck my wife" sites, where two real porn stars are put in a scene with an out-of-work actor who's supposed to be the girl's husband but they're so totally unbelievable. That's not real cuckholding.

I think you need to look a little harder. There is plenty of bi cuckholding porn where the 'husband' eats out the chick's pussy in the end and strokes/sucks cock.

But somehow, I don't think Dink is going to include this, thankfully.
 
The problem will be guys wantingto do bi stuff instead of Active Duty...... and the girls are not hot they are using i can see this site folding by the end of the year..... mixing girls with some of active duties hotties will turn ppl away..... u should of did another gay site....

Dink gives me the impression (and that's all it is) that he's a sharp businessman who knows when to slice and when to make nice.

Unless there's a tipping point in porn consumption that pops up a viable market segment geared to pretty-damned-fine-males-with-unobtrusive-female-bi-porn, he must know that his profits will always be from his gay content sites.

So there's no point in alienating too much of his core demographic. But a bit of calculated harm/success in prodding the demo a little? Why not - especially when he's fronting it with probably one of his biggest moneymakers in Cole who seemed like he was less and less enthused about doing purely gay scenes and would have faded away completely otherwise. If the business model doesn't work for Dink after a reasonable amount of time, he'll simply shut the site down.

Me? If I find a model on the Active Duty site who's hot and I don't want to see him fucking some generic chick at all, then I just don't have to go to Bi Barracks. I don't care what he does when he's not on the screen doing something I like, generally. I mean, Jesus, Elijah has his kid's footprint over his heart (or left tit. It's a really weird place to put it, but I digress). He's obviously been doing things a gay-identified person wouldn't be doing. But I still find the horny sweet bastard good to go so... .

But then again, I'm the kind of Active Duty client who is brutal and responsive. Good looking model with some fun personality that tickles my fancy? Yeah, me want to watch. End of story.

I figure porn is porn, it's not some socio-political-philosophical-gender-studies petri dish for me. If the porn doesn't interest me, I hit the tab on my browser and go look for something else that will. I mean, not every outing from Active Duty does it for me, either, so if Bi Barracks doesn't, I just chalk it up to another 'oh, well. Maybe next time' and wait around hoping Dink will find and throw up some long-lost scenes with Kody and Dean and Shane (and Cole and Chaz. As a combo, they had a good groove).

As for the guys wanting to do the bi stuff only, since Dink's never had much problems getting models for Active Duty, maybe he'll get a bigger model talent pool if some of the more skittish (or delusional) start off at the bi site. It's not like the exclusively gay client base at Active Duty will be forced to watch any of the bi stuff. For them, the models' first appearances on Active Duty will be sort of 'new to you' and the client base that caught the model at the Bi Barracks site will probably happily stride the two sites and not care.

The market will rule in the end and we can't always be in the winning market segment or demographic (well I fucking know, damned it).

It's hard to judge, too. After all, this is one announcement on the weekly update page and one link. Who knows how entwined this site will be with Active Duty in the future.
 
Time will tell. Dink's a smart businessman and I'm sure he thinks it will fly. He did produce one bi video a year or two ago and it may have been very successful. Different things turn all of us on and my tastes have changed somewhat over the years. Several other sites such as CF have bi sites and someone likes them because they're still up and running every week.
 
Um...OK. Wow. I just stumbled across this thread today and gotta admit, I was overwhelmed at not only the number of replies, but the depth in which some of the posters went with their thoughts, theories and reasoning. I am glad to read them all--even the not- so- friendly ones. It's nice to see how people feel and to hear their fears and concerns (as well as read the support) about my decision to kick off King Cole's Bi Barracks. From reading the replies there are several things I'd like to address and hopefully either set your mind at ease or else assure you that maybe you're right after all and I have in fact lost *my mind*.

As someone pointed out, a couple of years ago I released a video called Bi Barracks. I made a dire mistake. My mistake wasn't making the film, but making it an unavoidable part of Active Duty. I posted it on the main site as an integral part of the content. When someone went there--they seen it. I got a lot of hate mail from a lot of guys who were appalled by coming to Active Duty and being forced to look at some ugly bitches gaping hole. In hindsight (almost immediately after reading the first email) I realized the grave mistake I'd made.

When the smoke finally cleared from all the hate mail, something else interesting started to happen. DVD orders starting coming in at a pretty steady pace and a lot of people bought Bi Barracks. Now, it never reached the stellar performance in sales as say "Band Of Lovers" may have. But, the numbers were noticeable and they told me a story. For every letter I got nailing me to the cross, I saw another 25 orders pile in for the DVD! My point? A lot of people liked it, embraced the idea and welcomed it. In fact, I wanted to do more right away. But silently in my mind I keep re-reading those hate mails and I decided that many of them had in fact made a very valid point. They didn't need to be subjected to something without having a choice. I struggled with this in the shadows for the next couple of years and in fact decided not to release another one.

I have to admit that I had a lot of fun making Bi Barracks (ACT115) and it was very refreshing for me. After shooting over 100 full length DVDs (by that time) I needed a diversion to keep myself sane and fresh. And some of the footage that was captured in that movie (not the sex) was just pure classic Active Duty. The "line dance" scene with the boys in the kitchen, the wrestling, Chaz sticking a beer bottle up Jagger's ass, Dean off in the background and slowly, shyly sneaking in to be part of the group. For me, the girl wasn't even that much of a factor except to see how the boys reacted to her. And that was even fun. Yes, I was enjoying watching all them take control and allow things to unfold. They were certainly in a more comfortable position than me (or so I thought) being they're straight and all. Strangely I wasn't uncomfortable. I'd watched enough straight porn (and yes did consider myself straight at one point like so many of these guys) and had been with a few girls in my younger days when I was still coming to terms with who I was. Yes, I'm guilty. I'm a rug muncher from way back. But I'm reformed!!

So many of the guys on Active Duty I find hard to label. Many of them are just sexual. Elijah comes to mind for me as someone pointed out earlier. He's the epitome of the AD guy. Hard to put a finger on him. I don't think you could classify his preference as anything but sexual. Some of our more educated commentors and part-time porno psychologist might very well classify it as bi-sexual. Me? I prefer not to put that much thought into it. We are sexual creatures. Some of us have stronger preferences for one thing over another and some of us have no tolerance for anything outside our realm of sexual interest. This might be called homophobia or it could be heterophobia depending on which online manual you are reading. Me? I suffer from phobophobia

Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking to dive in any muff myself anytime soon, but if someone else wants to (and just happens to want to put it on film) then I'm all for it. Obviously though if I spent all my time diverting my attention from Active Duty then we might have a serious problem. This is why I chose Cole for the task and to him it's not a task. He finds as much enjoyment, satisfaction and pride in what he's doing as I do with Active Duty. His fascination reminds me of myself when I started filming in that back bedroom using only a house lamp with the shade thrown off and a 250 watt bulb (that thank God never burned the house down) and how amazed and in wonder I was to be there doing what I was doing---even if I didn't know what I was doing! Well, thanks to Active Duty's loyal following (and thanks to Cole for contributing to that) we don't have the problem of no lights and questionable camera's (unless I'm holding it) and we are able to let him loose to create a product that has his name, his creativity and his pride wrapped up in it. He's spent a lot of time on screen and off at Active Duty (having performed in nearly 30 Active Duty Videos himself) to know exactly how I work, how my mind thinks when I'm trying to capture something and I'm certain that a good portion of that (at least the portion we want to see) is apparent in his work. He also brings a fresh perspective to this type of sexual combination that I've never seen in other bi porn. The key factor being hot, hot guys that we as gay men actually want to see and his savy and precise knowledge of how to please us a little more in the end.

But, no matter how great Cole or I think Bi Barracks is, there will always be someone to tell us how much they hate it. One thing I've always said about new models is that for every one that won't, there are 10 that will. Same goes for Bi Barracks, I believe. I am confident that Cole will find his following and if I can help him do that, I'll be honored. But there are certain lengths I'm not willing to go to compromise the relationship I've built with those that are fans of Active Duty and who prefer not to be subjected to something they find offensive. But at the same time I don't find it wrong to cater to a demand or a desire that a vast number of people have expressed an interest in when I can allow someone as passionate and determined to make their mark in a genre as Cole seems to be. In another words if you've gotta be subjected to some bi porn then I think Cole's is the best choice.

But you don't have to be subjected. You don't have to let your curiosity get the best of you and you certainly do not ever have to visit Bi Barracks. I've made sure that won't happen. Below I'd like to address some of the concerns I've heard in these postings:

1. Bi Barracks will remain a totally separate site completely unconnected to Active Duty in any way other than the occasional mention or links of some sort from Active Duty to Bi Barracks. I think the title is obvious enough to stop that person who has no interest in bi content before they jump off the deep end. Question is...will their curiosity allow them not to look? The site will eventually have a members area and become a pay site, but it will not be included as part of your Active Duty membership unless you request it.

2. No, we will not use Bi Barracks as a "recruiting" tool. I've done pretty good for the last 10 years recruiting some of what I think are the Internet's hottest guys. I didn't need Bi Barracks to do that and I certainly won't need it to continue. So, no, Bi Barracks isn't a gimmick to get the guys in or enticed. There's way too much involved in a creating a high glamour, high maintenance bullshit way of recruiting guys. I simply don't have time for it. Besides, I wouldn't know how to stop walking up to random hot military guys in Wal Mart with my number scribbled on a torn off piece of envelope. The whole "lie" would just be too much work and I'm really not that smart. Life is too short.

3. No, we will not loose all the AD guys to Bi Barracks because of the chicks. Some of them have already given me a big flat out no. Bi Barracks will be an option after they've done Active Duty. Although---we may release some Bi Barracks videos of a guy before his Active Duty. But he will have already filmed his first Active Duty scene. Why you ask? Because I shoot so much content and stay so busy that sometimes it's months before the AD fans see a new guy. Bi Barracks would be like War Chest to some degree in that regard. Also, as any fool could guess, the Bi Barracks scenes don't pay as much as the Active Duty scenes.

4. Let's talk about alienating your "core audience". Bi Barracks isn't meant to be an alienating factor or slap in the face for Active Duty's core audience. It's meant to give those that want to experience something else, something different, the opportunity to do so. I mean come on. We are the ones always preaching "diversity and acceptance". Fine bunch we are to stomp on anyone elses fantasies or desires.

In the end, all the fuss about Bi Barracks is simply bored ass people sitting in front of their computer too long and thinking about things too hard that are really miniscule. It's no wonder that we've been invaded by plastic porn robots who have taken over our sense of taste and thrown us into a world of same. We've been consumed by this tube and that tube and every Tom, Dick and Harry showing us their ass. And in the end sometimes the only thing different is the color on the wall.

I invite you to make a choice. Choose to diversify your interest, expand your horizons, go on a quest for something off the wall and different. Over the last three years I've made a lot of ventures out. Dirty Bird Pictures, XXX Amateur Hour, My Straight Buddy, Covert Missions series, Major Wood, Sea Dog Photo, Bi Barracks and I've always found myself running back to my true love and stayed true to Active Duty. I've never allowed myself to be too overly taken by something that really doesn't interest me. But at the same time, I've thought it was a great adventure to see how peoples interest are so varied. And, surprisingly, I was wrong. There is a market other than just Active Duty.

Won't you join me, friend? Won't you reach out and touch your monitor now and join me, friend?

Hugs,
Dink:-({|=
 
So I was actually discussing this thread with Dink on the phone the other day. He told me there was some, er, controversy over Bi Barracks on JUB and urged me to check out this thread. However at the time I was busy launching my own new site with GIRLS in it (SemperFuck.com) and so I forgot all about it until now.

I was hanging out with Dink and Cole last year when the site was just a gleam in Cole's eye. And here's what I think (and if I'm wrong I'm sure I'll get a call from Dink telling me so LOL):

Cole likes girls, so he wanted to make a site with girls, and Cole and Dink are great friends and have worked together for a long time, and friends help each other out. So, Dink helped Cole start the site he wanted to start because he's a nice fucking guy. If it makes money I'm sure they'll both be very happy about it, but I'm pretty sure even if it didn't Dink would've helped Cole anyway because it was a nice thing to do and he's happy to help his friend out.

That being said, there are bi guys out there who will love the content on Bi Barracks. I'm one of them. I think it's hot. It may not sell as well as Active Duty, but it will sell, because people like me will buy it. Well not me--next time I'm in San Diego I'll just ask Dink for a copy--but having done that I can guarantee you it'll spend some time in my DVD player. I think Cole's done a great job and I very much look forward to seeing lots more of it. Cole 'gets it' as far as I'm concerned, and has obviously learned a lot from Dink and it shows. Also, Cole is like the nicest guy and I really wish him the best.

This will freak you all out even more: I've started a new site (like I said) called Semper Fuck. The guys on there fuck girls...there's no gay sex on it AT ALL!!!* I'm sure some people just fainted reading that. And guess what, gay men are loving it. And I knew they would, because I am making exactly the videos I want to see myself. I like watching guys fuck girls. It turns me on, because when they're pounding some va-jay-jay I know they're straight. But I like watching their tight little asses when they do it.

So, I love Active Duty videos, I'm hot for Bi Barracks, and I'm producing straight porn with hot marines. Am I confused, or open-minded? Who knows. All I know is I'm doing what I love to do, and so is Cole, and so is Dink, and if we're happy we're prolly making some other people happy too. At least I hope so.

* OK that's not quite true. Dink was kind enough to send me some straight tapes he made with his guys back in the day, and in one of them hot AD model Kaden does suck on Levi for like a minute, but that's it.

There's another video with my favorite AD model Shane, who I've watched fuck and get fucked in AD videos for years...he pounds the shit out of a girl, cums on her, and then goes back for more. When I see him do this I know that he really does like girls and it's not all just an "oh yeah I'm 'straight' act", so it makes his scenes on Active Duty that much hotter for me. I really do enjoy all three varieties...who knows what that means but thank gawd for the internets where I can find any crazy thing I want to see!
 
So I was actually discussing this thread with Dink on the phone the other day. He told me there was some, er, controversy over Bi Barracks on JUB and urged me to check out this thread. However at the time I was busy launching my own new site with GIRLS in it (SemperFuck.com) and so I forgot all about it until now.

I was hanging out with Dink and Cole last year when the site was just a gleam in Cole's eye. And here's what I think (and if I'm wrong I'm sure I'll get a call from Dink telling me so LOL):

Cole likes girls, so he wanted to make a site with girls, and Cole and Dink are great friends and have worked together for a long time, and friends help each other out. So, Dink helped Cole start the site he wanted to start because he's a nice fucking guy. If it makes money I'm sure they'll both be very happy about it, but I'm pretty sure even if it didn't Dink would've helped Cole anyway because it was a nice thing to do and he's happy to help his friend out.

That being said, there are bi guys out there who will love the content on Bi Barracks. I'm one of them. I think it's hot. It may not sell as well as Active Duty, but it will sell, because people like me will buy it. Well not me--next time I'm in San Diego I'll just ask Dink for a copy--but having done that I can guarantee you it'll spend some time in my DVD player. I think Cole's done a great job and I very much look forward to seeing lots more of it. Cole 'gets it' as far as I'm concerned, and has obviously learned a lot from Dink and it shows. Also, Cole is like the nicest guy and I really wish him the best.

This will freak you all out even more: I've started a new site (like I said) called Semper Fuck. The guys on there fuck girls...there's no gay sex on it AT ALL!!!* I'm sure some people just fainted reading that. And guess what, gay men are loving it. And I knew they would, because I am making exactly the videos I want to see myself. I like watching guys fuck girls. It turns me on, because when they're pounding some va-jay-jay I know they're straight. But I like watching their tight little asses when they do it.

So, I love Active Duty videos, I'm hot for Bi Barracks, and I'm producing straight porn with hot marines. Am I confused, or open-minded? Who knows. All I know is I'm doing what I love to do, and so is Cole, and so is Dink, and if we're happy we're prolly making some other people happy too. At least I hope so.

* OK that's not quite true. Dink was kind enough to send me some straight tapes he made with his guys back in the day, and in one of them hot AD model Kaden does suck on Levi for like a minute, but that's it.

There's another video with my favorite AD model Shane, who I've watched fuck and get fucked in AD videos for years...he pounds the shit out of a girl, cums on her, and then goes back for more. When I see him do this I know that he really does like girls and it's not all just an "oh yeah I'm 'straight' act", so it makes his scenes on Active Duty that much hotter for me. I really do enjoy all three varieties...who knows what that means but thank gawd for the internets where I can find any crazy thing I want to see!
are you from "my straight buddy"? if so. i love your site,been a huge fan of dinks at Active Duty,but thats a given,but i was happy to see these 2 sites piggy back
 
my own new site with GIRLS in it (SemperFuck.com

SemperFuck looks great in the previews. The guy with the star tatts is fantastic. I don't understand why some of the shoots are black and white though; is that just in the previews?

One thing I've learned living near a Marine base -- when they're horny enough and drunk or stoned enough, anything goes. :)
 
Hey Joe,

Man, I remember when you and me were hanging out in Phoenix last year and you were telling me all about it. At the time I was working for a solo site that had the very occasional quick blowjob and you discussed the Jake Cruise site SG4GE and how your site was the same idea but a different approach.

Who knew that a year later you'd be working for Dink and I'd be working for Jake and we'd both be directing straight porn for gay men?

Anyway.. good for you. We'll see if we can get that other idea we had going?
 
i have just finished watching the new bi barracks dvd and i have to say i really enjoyed it. the girl in the video is a cute, petite blonde with a tight little body. the first scene with elijah and miles ( i think that is his name) is definitley the best scene of the video. elijah pretty much takes the lead and does a teriffic job of getting the girl and miles off. the other scene has the same girl along with spencer (an absolute favorite of mine) and colin. this scene would have been fantastic if they had anyone besides colin in it. can this dude ever get a hard-on? i swear the last couple movies he has been in he has never gotten completley hard. all-in-all i will buy more of cole's movies, i just hope that we get to see dj, chaz, thomas and kaden in the next dvd.
 
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