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Adam Lambert [merged]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Sorry, I'm not going to believe the reason I didn't like the performance was because he was "attempting to break down barriers" and I have some sort of mental block when it comes to the male/female dynamic. The reason I didn't like it was because he was trying FAR too hard to "make a moment". Yes, Madonna did that whole "Like a Virgin" thing, but she did it in the context of the song. One can listen to just the audio of her performance, and still be entertained. Adam's dog and pony show - for that was what it was - was meant to "create buzz". It was clinical, calculated, and frankly not compelling. It didn't even manage to divert me enough from noticing that the song wasn't very good.

And sorry - no such luck chalking it up to "nerves and fear". Don't know if you knew this, but he was on this TV show...

...feel free to swing by Rolling Stone.com, though. They're talking his performance up like it's the second coming of Christ. To which nearly every comment is something along the lines of "Um, were we watching the same thing?"

Lex
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

lulzing@ the seriousness of this thread


Adam performed.

Whatever.

Can you say GIVE IT UP TO ME?

Shakira bout to make me go straight
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

It is funny, Adam has us all talking

He has us in the bag

And he knows it.

Carrie prewhatever wishes she had this publicity.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Well, I suppose that it may very well be a matter of personal taste, but I have enjoyed his performance for what it was: a promotional vehicle fuelled by sheer sensationalism. Which is, incidentally, what the majority of singers do at one point or another in their careers. The problem here is that Adam seems to have alienated everyone by simply wanting to be himself, when everyone expects him to represent their own idea of what homosexuality should be.

Yes, his performance was far from perfect and far below the standard that he himself set in American Idol, but the truth is that AI doesn't exactly prepare people to deal with the daily exigences of the record industry. It also doesn't prepare singers for the shock of actually having to perform as part of an all star line up. Singing as part of a group of amateurs who aspire to achieve fame is one thing. Being thrust into the limelight along an ensemble of (so-called) professionals who have much more experience, prestige - however undeserved - and support, is something entirely different altogether. One has to measure up, and that must be a daunting prospect.

Finally, I would like to ask, what is it that so many gay men find in "artistes" like the absolutely disgraceful Madonna and the absurdity that is Lady Gaga? While Gaga's more limited success has forced her to publicly pronounce herself in favour of her core fan base (after all, I strongly doubt that most 'ordinary', straight-laced people would be compelled to buy anything from a plastic mannequin who sings dance anthems about absolutely nothing), Madonna is a parasite in every sense of the word, sucking everything she can from everywhere, and giving nothing but shit in return. Her much discussed and utterly horrid performance of "Like A Virgin" was just the same as what Adam has done: an unrestrained, shameless display of opportunism. The only difference is that, when she did it, she was the only pony in the show. Adam has to compete with years of shock tactics and exploitation from fellow artists.

Maybe the fact that he is an openly gay man makes me be more lenient with him than I would otherwise be, but I cannot deny that he possesses a superb talent, and that should count for something.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

After his controversial American Music Awards performance, Adam Lambert told the Los Angeles Times, that if his performance was edited for the West Coast, it would be discrimination.

“If it’s gonna be edited, then in a way that’s discrimination. I don’t mean to get political, but Madonna, Britney and Christina weren’t edited,” Adam said. “It’s a shame. Female entertainers have been risqué for years. Honestly, there’s a huge double standard.”"

The West Coast feed was edited. I’m hearing the simulated blow job and the kiss was edited out.

Adam tells Access Hollywood that “shock is fun” and name checks artists like Prince and David Bowie who also pushed the envelope. Plus, Adam reveals to Access that he’s not singing “For Your Entertainment” when he performs on Letterman tomorrow night (for a show that will air Nov. 25)

He says the song he’s performing will show his “vulnerable” side.
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Boo Hooo. He sounded like a spoilt brat.

Adam admits to Perez Hilton via twitter that his AMA performance was pitchy, but blames it on the sound mix, “It WAS a bit pitchy. Don’t know what was goin on with the sound. Same thing always went down on idol” Perez sends positive vibes Adam’s way HERE.
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Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

elvin1 said:
Right. Like I am actually going to buy that queen's cd. Much more entertaining to talk about his mess than to actually give him any money.
We talk about people all the time. Doesn't make them successful though.lol
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I just want him to kind of, go away.

All these damn threads talking about him, and I'm talking about him now

Im not happy about this. :(
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

axioma16 said:
Well, I suppose that it may very well be a matter of personal taste, but I have enjoyed his performance for what it was: a promotional vehicle fuelled by sheer sensationalism. Which is, incidentally, what the majority of singers do at one point or another in their careers. The problem here is that Adam seems to have alienated everyone by simply wanting to be himself, when everyone expects him to represent their own idea of what homosexuality should be.

Yes, his performance was far from perfect and far below the standard that he himself set in American Idol, but the truth is that AI doesn't exactly prepare people to deal with the daily exigences of the record industry. It also doesn't prepare singers for the shock of actually having to perform as part of an all star line up. Singing as part of a group of amateurs who aspire to achieve fame is one thing. Being thrust into the limelight along an ensemble of (so-called) professionals who have much more experience, prestige - however undeserved - and support, is something entirely different altogether. One has to measure up, and that must be a daunting prospect.

Finally, I would like to ask, what is it that so many gay men find in "artistes" like the absolutely disgraceful Madonna and the absurdity that is Lady Gaga? While Gaga's more limited success has forced her to publicly pronounce herself in favour of her core fan base (after all, I strongly doubt that most 'ordinary', straight-laced people would be compelled to buy anything from a plastic mannequin who sings dance anthems about absolutely nothing), Madonna is a parasite in every sense of the word, sucking everything she can from everywhere, and giving nothing but shit in return. Her much discussed and utterly horrid performance of "Like A Virgin" was just the same as what Adam has done: an unrestrained, shameless display of opportunism. The only difference is that, when she did it, she was the only pony in the show. Adam has to compete with years of shock tactics and exploitation from fellow artists.

Maybe the fact that he is an openly gay man makes me be more lenient with him than I would otherwise be, but I cannot deny that he possesses a superb talent, and that should count for something.
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I still do not fully grasp why these other people do not like Adam.

They throw these broad words around that 7 year olds use to try and make their parents mad.

I just cannot connect with him. It is not about singing a song that is about loss (Time for miracles) or some sexual charged romp (For your entertainment).

It is about the artist delivering those songs to me. Them to me.

I don't know what the fuck Adam was doing.

But I wish him all the success in the world. After listening to that album he will need all the good vibes he can get ](*,)](*,)
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Perhaps you forgot this lesson back in school, but they don't grade you based on your talent or potential - they grade you on your performance. (Hello, Ryan Leaf.)

I've got no problem with Adam wanting to put on a "show" during the AMAs. The problem wasn't even that his "show" was so choreographed - that's what these things are, after all. My problem was that it FELT choreographed. Forget music - I didn't even get much sense of "show" from it.

I mean, when a movie actor or stage actor is up there performing, I know they're actors. I know they're not really facing whatever peril they're facing. But a good actor makes me believe. He or she sweeps me up in the moment and pulls me along. Similarly, I know when a musician is performing, they're probably doing the tenth, hundredth, thousandth rendition of this song. But they can still sweep me up in the moment, and get me into it. And Adam failed at that. On even the most elemental level. I didn't see a guy so hyped up in the moment of his song that he couldn't help dancing like that, or kissing his keyboard player. I saw what amounted to a three-year-old saying "Mom!" in various cadences until Mom finally stopped talking to her friend and finally looked. I saw a guy so hyped on his own fame that he may as well have said "Now look at THIS!" between each of his moves.

>>>Adam has to compete with years of shock tactics and exploitation from fellow artists.

And perhaps this is his problem. If he has such potential and talent, why is he going the "shock and awe" route? Why not sit him down at the piano, actually tap this supposed potential, and actually blow us away with an amazing performance of an amazing song? Judging from nearly everyone weighing in, that'd not only be notable but desperately welcome.

Lex
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

I would give him congrats... but it was not a good performance. Forget all of the controversy or whatever, it was just not a his best work.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Adam must have done something right or everyone wouldn't be arguing about him....... #-o

He's a great PERFORMER......give him THAT at least......
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

gaydude65 said:
Quote: "Female performers have been doing this for years -- pushing the envelope about sexuality -- and the minute a man does it, everybody freaks out."

Sorry, folks, but I have to give Adam kudos here. What he's saying is true. A woman can stick her tongue down another woman's throat, and it's "hot." But the second a guy does that to another guy, everybody goes fucking ape shit. It's a huge double standard, and I have to agree with him about that.
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There is a bit of a double standard there, but for Adam to act like he's not enjoying all this negative backlash is ridiculous. He's loving every moment of it. This is the kind of stuff that he thrives on. It's what the "shock and awe" is all about. Why else would he go so ridiculously over the top with the whips, chains and simulated oral sex on stage if he didn't want to get this kind of reaction? He threw everything but the kitchen sink into it until the innuendo was no longer innuendo. It was just tacky and desperate.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

I hate to say it about AL, because I was a fan of his in the beginning.....but, if someone is truly talented, they would not have to rely on "gimmick" to be talked about and watched.......
 
Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

just look at his CD cover it say it all- jerk, diva, sissy.
Then listen to him scream...no thanks.
 
Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

hes a bad example to be gay ugh
 
Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

Divine KNEW s/he was ridiculous and over the top. I think Adam wants to play both sides - where he's "being an artist" (for those who think what he does is art) and "be campy" (for those who know better).

Lex
 
Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

Will Take True Talent(voice) More Than Shock Value To Win And Keep Fans And He Just Lost Me Because Of Sad Ama Performance. When Will Him And Lady Gaga Learn?
 
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