Adam Lambert [merged]

[Salemite]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Im glad that there are other people who actually get it.

Not sure if it was mentioned, but ABC just cancelled Adam's performance on Good Morning America due to the AMA performance. In my opinion, completely justified move on their part. The truly sad part is the response that Adam fans have given towards ABC's decision. Currently, #shameonyouABC is a trending topic on twitter where many people are screaming "homophobia".

Keep in mind that when it came to the west coast airing of the show, ABC chose to not cut the gay kiss, but did cut the simulated BJ. So yeah, clearly not homophobic. Just conservative (ABC IS RUN BY DISNEY). Claiming homophobia in places where it does not exist is another set-back

Quoted for truth!

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

I have to disagree on that. I thought he sounded like a dying pussycat.

First, let me start with this: Second, I'll restate what I said before in a different way, he hit his notes. Personally, I do not care for his voice as it's too light for me, but his technique was great.

 

[Salemite]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

First, let me start with this:

Thanks. That's sweet. Sarcasm and rudeness is always fun.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Thanks. That's sweet. Sarcasm and rudeness is always fun.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you missed the point I was making in the first post. However, that's the closest thing to a sigh that I could emote across the internet. Anyway, if rude and sarcastic is how you still perceive my comment, let's have party. Cheers!

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

No he didn't. Only way you can be stating that with a straight face is if you're tone deaf.

I know how to separate my personal opinion of his singing style from his ability to sing.

What's technical about screaming and screeching again?

Just because you have personal issue with the guy or you do not like his approach to singing, especially at the AMAs, does not mean that he was not singing.

Did you watch the AMA video, or did someone send you a link and call it Adam Lambert's AMA performance?

Unless his singing was edited on the West Coast, then he actually sang fine.

 

[Ekim23]

Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

I really really really dont like him, his music, his style or his attitude

The guy clearly is no artist at all

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

So you respond with an insult.

If you don't think saying that gay people are all uptight and that straight people are all cool and laid back "insulting," then I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

I'm really tired of having the whole gay community disparaged by people who aren't even gay.

 

[mbamike]

Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.



Thanks for sharing the video!

 

[SilverWolf]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Wow. Gay friendly GMA? Good job Adam..not only have you alienated the gays and the straights, but you have also alienated the gay-friendly.

Jackass. lol

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/24/adam-lambert-headed-to-cbs-early-show-after-abc-cancels-his-concert/

Just thought I would mention that while GMA may have canceled him CBS took him on their Early Show and he is still set to appear on Letterman

 

[axioma16]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Oh, enough of this already!

If anything, Adam has succeeded (albeit, unintentionally) in exposing the hypocrisy and lack of compassion of most people, who are willing to tolerate gay people as long as we are presenting ourselves within the confined spaces allowed to us in the media; which is to say, either part of a tragedy triggered by the innate 'abnormality' of our sexual preference, or else, bitchy designer/stylist queens that stupidly whine about lack of etiquette and colour co-ordination. Adam has tried to present himself as something more overtly sexual, aggressive and uninhibited, and the reaction has been comprehensibly adverse - when a woman engages in cheap shock tactics of a sexual nature, that's fine, because she is viewed as merely reaffirming her status as an object. But lest we allow an openly gay man to do so, because the world will surely end! How could we be compromising everyone's maleness in such an extreme and horrible way?

Rather than criticize Adam, we should support him, because he has contributed to show that acceptance is limited to our adherence to people's prejudices. How can we be visible if we are only allowed to express ourselves in a manner acceptable to straight people?

Also, you are all overestimating the magnitude of this controversy. Out of 14 million viewers, only 1,500 notably prudish individuals complained... That, and the pathetically unintelligent, ignorant and proud of being so, Elisabeth Hasselbeck.

The truth is that I am glad that Adam is getting all this publicity. Those who are against gay people, were going to be so anyway, and if there are individuals who have come to have a negative opinion of gays just because of a clumsily performed song, all I can say is that I'd rather do without the support of such imbeciles.

Sometimes I'm amazed at how intolerant, cunty and lacking in solidarity we can all be with our own brethren.

 

[joesman]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

I downloaded his cd from itunes today and some of this music is in-fucking-credible. Soaked sent chills all over my soul. Sure Fire Winners, For Your Entertainment, Pick You Up, Fever are just wonderful. That's as far as I have gotten thus far and am listening now.

I rewatched the AmA performance again and I give you it seemed totally out there - but why did no one mentions Lady Gaga's over the top performance and ambiguous sexually charged romp. Don't get me wrong, I am a big Gaga fan.

 

[joesman]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

And StaceyPierce, I take back my anger with you because we all have opinions, and have a right to change them.

I just want to say we all make choices in our lives and they are not always the best for us or turn out as we planned. I don't know how many times I've ranted "what the hell was I thinking?" or " I wish I could do that over".

If we are expecting perfection or a person to stand up for gay people, we should be looking for a high political power. Has Mr. Obama been the godsend we thought? I don't think even he expected that this country is buried so deep in racial and homophobic fervor that should scare the hell out of all of us.

 

[Timber_8]

Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

If you don't think saying that gay people are all uptight and that straight people are all cool and laid back "insulting," then I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

I'm really tired of having the whole gay community disparaged by people who aren't even gay.

That would be fine if that is what I said but I didn't, I wasn't even disagreeing with the general opinion of the performance.

I'm really tired of having the whole gay community disparaged by people who aren't even gay.

I have been part of the gay community for 30 so don't you tell me what I am. I was proud to be what I am when it wasn't cool to be gay. I was there before and during the whole HIV thing happened.Who are you to define what I am or not.

If you going to quote someone then quote what they say not what you think it means.

This is what I said

Strange that the Gay community is more uptight than strait people on every subject.

 

[Salemite]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Rather than criticize Adam, we should support him, because he has contributed to show that acceptance is limited to our adherence to people's prejudices. How can we be visible if we are only allowed to express ourselves in a manner acceptable to straight people?

I understand what you're saying, and you do have a point...

However, I think I might care a little more about Adam's plight if he hadn't done this just to get a rise out of people. He knew what he was doing from the start. I don't think he presents himself this way because this is who he really is. He does it for shock value and attention. Plus, c'mon... shoving a person's face into your crotch and thrusting your invisible cock in and out of their mouth is a little risque for network television no matter who's doing it. It didn't shock me, but I can understand why the network might've been a little iffy about it. It was a pathetic, badly-sung display and it just adds more fuel to the fire of all the crazy conservatives who like to paint the homosexual community with that broad "gay people are horny FREAKS" brush.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

This is what I said

I know what you said and it pissed me off.

And it's completely baseless in this instance. The gay community isn't more uptight than straight people on "every subject" and not even this one.

Straight people are reacting in horror, we're just rolling our eyes at the pathetic display.

 

[Ekim23]

Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

Straight people are reacting in horror, we're just rolling our eyes at the pathetic display.

+1

I was bout to answer with something similar...

 

[axioma16]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Do you really think that ABC didn't know what Adam was planning to do? Please. These events are rehearsed to death and artists have to present a detailed account of everything they are going to do to the network, mainly due to the limited time they have to perform. They knew what Adam was going to do and green lighted it, hoping that a little controversy would increase ratings.

If their little attempt at exploiting the situation has backfired, is because they have blown it out of proportion themselves. What Adam did was tacky, but nothing out of the ordinary. I've seen disgraceful "singers" like Justin Timberlake or Usher rub their crotches against the buttocks and the pubic area of female dancers at awards shows, and nobody complained. However, when a gay man does something similar, all of a sudden it is beyond indecent. Please. Just please.

 

[irish1]

Re: Adam Lambert... a TRUE artist.

just look at his CD cover it say it all- jerk, diva, sissy.
Then listen to him scream...no thanks.

....and I don't plan on buying his music, either.

 

[Salemite]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

Do you really think that ABC didn't know what Adam was planning to do? Please.

Well, Adam himself said that the risque stuff happened in the heat of the moment because of adrenaline and whatnot. According to him, it wasn't rehearsed the way he performed it and he got carried away because of the excitement, etc. Personally, I didn't think it was all that shocking. Just pathetic. And no, I don't think the network knew about the BJ simulation before the show.

Also, I doubt ABC would've edited that part out of the west coast airing if they knew about it ahead of time. I'm sure Adam was planning it -- he just didn't let the network know. Either way, it doesn't really matter to me. The final product is the same and I still don't like him, LoL.

 

[axioma16]

Re: C'mon, why is no one giving Adam Lambert credit for his performance?

I guess that every single situation can have infinite interpretations. I am not saying that Adam has willingly placed himself in a position of martyrdom for the cause of allowing greater diversity in the vehicles for representation that gay people have in the media. I have also recognized in other posts that he did what he did for pure shock value; as a dramatic, histrionic display of opportunism. However, he hasn't done anything that could merit such virulence; sex is present in every day life and many singers resort to it to enhance the impact of their performances. It doesn't help anyone and, precisely for that, no one should be held accountable for it... It's a gimmick of many, not a declaration of communal identity.

Maybe the problem is that people are so ignorant about what homosexuality is, and the many channels of expression it has, that they could be swayed by a simple display of bad taste. Thus, what we should do is use this event to increase visibility and divulge the fact that the gay community is very diverse; certainly, far beyond what Adam presented. We cannot blame him for not being able to satisfy everyone.

Second, he has said a million times that he wants to be himself, not an advocate for any particular causes. In addition, he went to American Idol... For God's sake, what were you expecting? A selfless Messiah? He went there because his main objective was to become famous, and that's the end of it. Why would you or anybody else want to find a deeper meaning to his intentions? Most importantly, why should he have to be weighed down by the responsibility of representing the entire LGBT community?

As for him fulfilling people's twisted and bizarre expectations, all I can say is that people are the ones with the problem. Certainly not Adam, and certainly not any other gay person out there. He presented a fantasy, and ideation within the context of the performance. It wasn't a freaking declaration of principles! People should be intelligent enough to differentiate between a somewhat lousy performance and reality. It is very alarming, however, that some individuals are idiotic enough as to think that this is the reality of most gay people's lives. Again, fighting to educate them by any other possible means would be more effective than criticizing Adam for not being the Great Gay Messianic Educator.