After Giffords Shooting, Several AZ Republicans Resign Amid Fears of Tea Party Violen

[White Eagle]

Even the republicans in AZ fear the Tea Party.
The idea that the rhetoric is responsible is even in the Rep party.
The left is not the only ones blaming the rhetoric!

http://www.alternet.org/newsandview..._amid_fears_of_tea_party_violence/#paragraph3

After Giffords Shooting, Several AZ Republicans Resign Amid Fears of Tea Party Violence

What the Arizona Republic calls a "nasty little battle" has broken out among Republican members of Arizona's Legislative District 20 in the wake of the Gabrielle Giffords

shooting. Several Republicans have resigned, citing fears that local Tea Party supporters will harm them or their families for not being conservative enough.

 

[jackoroe]

Nowhere in that article does it suggest that the rhetoric is in any way responsible for the attacks on Rep. Giffords and Judge Roll. In fact there is no credible source anywhere that has made that case. Let's first be clear on that point.

As to this inner party squabble, it's McCain's people who are being challenged. I'm surprised to see you defending that lot. I'm not a big fan. I'll agree suggesting that a black man is anybody's "boy" is not PC. But he was associated with his campaign. So, lackey would have been fine. Finger guns? Please. What next, menacing looks?

If there have been any serious threats, they need to report them to the appropriate authorities. Absent that, it's a power struggle within the party.

 

[kallipolis]

Nowhere in that article does it suggest that the rhetoric is in any way responsible for the attacks on Rep. Giffords and Judge Roll. In fact there is no credible source anywhere that has made that case. Let's first be clear on that point.

As to this inner party squabble, it's McCain's people who are being challenged. I'm surprised to see you defending that lot. I'm not a big fan. I'll agree suggesting that a black man is anybody's "boy" is not PC. But he was associated with his campaign. So, lackey would have been fine. Finger guns? Please. What next, menacing looks?

If there have been any serious threats, they need to report them to the appropriate authorities. Absent that, it's a power struggle within the party.

Accurate, and revealing.

 

[palemale]

Nowhere in that article does it suggest that the rhetoric is in any way responsible for the attacks on Rep. Giffords and Judge Roll. In fact there is no credible source anywhere that has made that case. Let's first be clear on that point.

As to this inner party squabble, it's McCain's people who are being challenged. I'm surprised to see you defending that lot. I'm not a big fan. I'll agree suggesting that a black man is anybody's "boy" is not PC. But he was associated with his campaign. So, lackey would have been fine. Finger guns? Please. What next, menacing looks?

If there have been any serious threats, they need to report them to the appropriate authorities. Absent that, it's a power struggle within the party.

I read in an article yesterday that, at a meeting where that black man, who was an elected party official, was at a meeting where someone yelled something to the effect, "let's get a rope." We're not talking about an absence of "PC," that's an overt threat of violence.

Last night on MSNBC, they showed a clip of election night in San Diego, after Congressman Bob Filner, who is Jewish, beat the Tea Party candidate rather handily. As Filner was leaving the room where election results were announced, the guy he beat and his supporters were outside and started screaming at him and menacing him. Filner's opponent was screaming that Filner was a liar. One of Filner's staff people was punched in the face. Another Tea Party supported very clearly was yelling "Jew" at Filner. But for the presence of police officers, Filner would have been roughed up. Moreover his son and granddaughter were with him. Can you imagine what it must have been like for her?

Unfortunately, the Tea Party attracts some sick, violent people.

 

[kallipolis]

Unfortunately, the Tea Party attracts some sick, violent people.

All political parties, and organisations attract sick, violent people. Thankfully in small doses.

The Tea Baggers demonstrate a greater concentration than most. The price of ignorance.

 

[Jack Springer]

{Deleted by moderator} - you continually quote that web site as a news sources after you've been told that it is a blog.

A bag blog by the way that distorts news stories to fit an agenda, leaving out pertinent information and details.

This is a perfect example of agitating a base and spreading false and misleading propaganda.

I would suggest again that you look for a news source that is more reliable and honest.

 

[laikaNYC]

I read in an article yesterday that, at a meeting where that black man, who was an elected party official, was at a meeting where someone yelled something to the effect, "let's get a rope." We're not talking about an absence of "PC," that's an overt threat of violence.

Last night on MSNBC, they showed a clip of election night in San Diego, after Congressman Bob Filner, who is Jewish, beat the Tea Party candidate rather handily. As Filner was leaving the room where election results were announced, the guy he beat and his supporters were outside and started screaming at him and menacing him. Filner's opponent was screaming that Filner was a liar. One of Filner's staff people was punched in the face. Another Tea Party supported very clearly was yelling "Jew" at Filner. But for the presence of police officers, Filner would have been roughed up. Moreover his son and granddaughter were with him. Can you imagine what it must have been like for her?

Unfortunately, the Tea Party attracts some sick, violent people.

You read an article, so it must be fact! Do we really need to bring up all the incidents of violence from the Left?

News flash: Both sides have nuts

 

[palemale]

You read an article, so it must be fact! Do we really need to bring up all the incidents of violence from the Left?

News flash: Both sides have nuts

What incidents of violence from the left are you talking about? Are you aware of some incidents where left-leaning activists in the Democratic Party publicly threaten to hang someone, or use racist and anti-Semitic insults to drive someone out of a party or elected office, or physically menace members of Congress and their staff?

 

[runner]

[B]Several AZ Republicans Resign Amid Fears[/B]

What a crock load of shit.

 

[White Eagle]

Nowhere in that article does it suggest that the rhetoric is in any way responsible for the attacks on Rep. Giffords and Judge Roll. In fact there is no credible source anywhere that has made that case. Let's first be clear on that point.

As to this inner party squabble, it's McCain's people who are being challenged. I'm surprised to see you defending that lot. I'm not a big fan. I'll agree suggesting that a black man is anybody's "boy" is not PC. But he was associated with his campaign. So, lackey would have been fine. Finger guns? Please. What next, menacing looks?

If there have been any serious threats, they need to report them to the appropriate authorities. Absent that, it's a power struggle within the party.

I'm not saying the massacre was connected. If you thought that, forgive me. Maybe I should have said along with the left connecting the crime to the Tea Party wacktivists™ so are some of the GOPers.
Let's make this clear. I'm not connecting the two anymore. I'm gonna wait for more info to come out.
I also do not see where I said I'm "defending that lot"! I found an article I thought would be informative to the thread and posted it. I made no comment one way or another.

 

[White Eagle]

{Removed by moderator} you continually quote that web site as a news sources after you've been told that it is a blog.

A bag blog by the way that distorts news stories to fit an agenda, leaving out pertinent information and details.

This is a perfect example of agitating a base and spreading false and misleading propaganda.

I would suggest again that you look for a news source that is more reliable and honest.

The wingnuts here use all kinds of sites to quote. I see nothing wrong with Alternet. It's a source. live with it.

 

[White Eagle]

[Text: Removed by Moderator] - you continually quote that web site as a news sources after you've been told that it is a blog.

A bag blog by the way that distorts news stories to fit an agenda, leaving out pertinent information and details.

This is a perfect example of agitating a base and spreading false and misleading propaganda.

I would suggest again that you look for a news source that is more reliable and honest.

Ok, how is this for a story from Marketwatch. Their wiki profile:

MarketWatch, formerly known as CBS Marketwatch, operated in partnership with Viacom's CBS News. Once a publicly traded company, MarketWatch was 45% owned by Viacom (now CBS Corporation after split from this company) and Pearson PLC before Dow Jones acquired it in January 2005 for over $500 million. It is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Dow Jones, which in turn is owned by News Corporation. MarketWatch is part of Dow Jones' Consumer Media Group, along with The Wall Street Journal, Barron's, the WSJ.com and affiliated Internet properties. Through the Rupert Murdoch-controlled News Corp. ownership, MarketWatch is also affiliated with, among many other global media properties, the New York Post, The Times of London, Fox News Channel and multiple other 20th Century Fox spinoffs, and HarperCollins publishers. See also: List of assets owned by News Corporation

https://secure.marketwatch.com/comm...ics/topics/after-giffords-shooting-several-az

A nasty battle between factions of Legislative District 20 Republicans and fears that it could turn violent in the wake of what happened in Tucson on Saturday prompted District Chairman Anthony Miller and several others to resign.

I see nowhere in marketwatch story that proves Alternet lied in their story.
Just take it that Alternet has truthful stories.

 

[jackoroe]

{Deleted by moderator} - you continually quote that web site as a news sources after you've been told that it is a blog.

A bag blog by the way that distorts news stories to fit an agenda, leaving out pertinent information and details.

This is a perfect example of agitating a base and spreading false and misleading propaganda.

I would suggest again that you look for a news source that is more reliable and honest.

White Eagle, which is his correct screen name, did use a blog as the source of his post. The blog was written based on a legitimate news story which you may find here. It's pretty much the same thing. White Eagle's original post is still a legitimate source of discussion in any event.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/...zona-shooting-resignations.html#ixzz1AowZXHq1

 

[jackoroe]

I'm not saying the massacre was connected. If you thought that, forgive me. Maybe I should have said along with the left connecting the crime to the Tea Party wacktivists™ so are some of the GOPers.
Let's make this clear. I'm not connecting the two anymore. I'm gonna wait for more info to come out.
I also do not see where I said I'm "defending that lot"! I found an article I thought would be informative to the thread and posted it. I made no comment one way or another.

Thank you for your clarification. I apologize for misunderstanding your intent.

 

[White Eagle]

White Eagle, which is his correct screen name, did use a blog as the source of his post. The blog was written based on a legitimate news story which you may find here. It's pretty much the same thing. White Eagle's original post is still a legitimate source of discussion in any event.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/...zona-shooting-resignations.html#ixzz1AowZXHq1

Thanks for the link and ur help. I did finally find one but I had to go thru several which got their article from Alternet.

 

[JB3]

What I find interesting is that nowhere does this person indicate that there were actual threats made, just unfounded fears of violence. (most coming from his wife)

If he had been threatened this might be different, but its just fear on his part without any reason to believe that its true.

 

[BostonPirate]

yeah? how aboutI take a picture of you, put some cross hairs over your house, list addresses, and then tell the nation to take you out?

Do you think that would warrant fear?

How about after the bricks start coming through your windows?

 

[Telstra]

I guess terrorism (threats) works ...

 

[JB3]

yeah? how aboutI take a picture of you, put some cross hairs over your house, list addresses, and then tell the nation to take you out?

Do you think that would warrant fear?

How about after the bricks start coming through your windows?

When did this happen to the person in the article? This man had no indication whatsoever that there was any reason to be afraid, so your questions are irrelevant and not applicable.

 

[JB3]

I guess terrorism (threats) works ...

Except there were no threats.