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I saw the link about the Smith woman but her culture doesn't condone child murder. And, as you say, others do condone and accept and see murders happening frequently.

I didn't see your poisonous comments which Jack has edited out but your poisonous words are nothing to the knifing, strangling and drowning of others.
 
CowboyBob said:
Christians don't have honor killings?

http://www.project.nsearch.com/forum/topics/christians-have-honor-killings

Relation to homosexuality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing



Religion is geographic. What religion you become depends on where you were born on the planet. Honor killings happen everywhere, no matter culture you are, no matter what religion you are.
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I'm very much aware of the Christian Taliban in this country. Their version is Christianity contrasts greatly with the Pope's and definitely Jesus'.
 
pat grimshaw said:
I saw the link about the Smith woman but her culture doesn't condone child murder. And, as you say, others do condone and accept and see murders happening frequently.

I didn't see your poisonous comments which Jack has edited out but your poisonous words are nothing to the knifing, strangling and drowning of others.
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These murders were anathema to 99.99% of the Islamic community in Canada who do not subscribe to the tribal tradition of honour killings. The very uniqueness of this murder trial is a testament to the rejection of these medieval, misogynist rituals only held to by people from the most backward of rural and tribal cultures.

Understand that.

And my comments were along the lines that trolling and baiting based on religion and misrepresentation of other cultures based on a generalization would be more appreciated on other boards and other sites than this.
 
"alien cultures"
there are good parts and bad parts, i would keep the good parts and cut off the bad parts.
 
pat grimshaw said:
Baiting who? You Canadians don't identify with or condone this family of killers, do you?
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Why not just drop the "I'm so innocent" act?

You're not unintelligent. Titling your thread "alien cultures" is plainly intended to be provocative.

You're not trying to discuss a deplorable failing with such a title, but rather slander an entire set of people.

Canadians identify with and codone peoples from all around the world:

Canada is an open and welcoming society.
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They do not condone the disgusting crimes perpetrated by these individuals.
 
pat, if you have something bigoted to say, just go ahead and say it so everyone knows where you stand.
 
^ Just, it's hard to say anything without inflaming the zealots of the PC Brigade but I guess I'm saying that the home-grown terrorism which has caused mayhem and death in Britain, Europe and my country is coming to North America.
 
I'm sure a lot of the politically correct folks on here would think differently if they had grown up in a neighbourhood full of retarded muslim fundamentalist bigots. I have a few friends who grew up gay in muslim parts of Brussels and fled to Antwerp to be free to be who they wanted to be. You'd probably be shocked if you heard them speak about islam. No greater zealot than a convert, and no greater opponent of religion than an apostate who's had to deal with zealots.
 
pat grimshaw said:
^ Just, it's hard to say anything without inflaming the zealots of the PC Brigade but I guess I'm saying that the home-grown terrorism which has caused mayhem and death in Britain, Europe and my country is coming to North America.
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See? Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

It's funny you excuse such small-minded, prejudiced viewpoints as accusing others of being a "zealot in the PC Brigrade." Your bigotry isn't your problem, it's everyone else's! :badgrin:
 
pat grimshaw said:
^ Just, it's hard to say anything without inflaming the zealots of the PC Brigade but I guess I'm saying that the home-grown terrorism which has caused mayhem and death in Britain, Europe and my country is coming to North America.
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This is just bullshit.

These were murders, not terrorism.

This was a case of murder. It was tried as a murder case. The Jury convicted the murderers. They will now go to jail.

Stop trying to make it something other than what it is in order to slake your own poisonous hatred for all muslims or people of other races and faiths.

The fact that you've had your ass handed to you on the subject of polygamy by some of us pointing out that it is legal in some US states for other faiths like Mormons and the fact that it has been clearly demonstrated that Canada does not condone 'honour killings' don't seem to matter. Your attempt to broaden this thread into an anti-islamic diatribe is proof that it is just a vehicle for race/religious baiting.

Seriously. Stop it.

Stormfront is a much better site to discuss your beliefs with your fellow travellers.
 
Honor killings pre-date Islam. They are therefore cultural, not religious.

And a culture which approves -- no, demands -- such things is indeed alien. It's not just alien because it condones murder (although contextually it's not murder, because the slain people were just property), but because it is deeply and malignantly sexist: how often do we read of a son or brother being killed for this concept of honor?

Oh, Islamist theology gets invoked to justify it, but that's no different than Christianist theology being invoked to support killing abortion doctors -- both are madness.
 
The middle east need a sexual revolution.
Wondering when is that going to happen.

oh and why is the US covering up breasts again on prime time TV ?
 
pat grimshaw said:
^ Just, it's hard to say anything without inflaming the zealots of the PC Brigade but I guess I'm saying that the home-grown terrorism which has caused mayhem and death in Britain, Europe and my country is coming to North America.
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Unfortunately Pat the statistics don't quite back up your fearmongering.
Between 2001 and 2010 there were 7851 murders in the UK. Less than 100 of these were committed by terrorists (either Irish Republican, Islamic or otherwise).

http://www.murderuk.com/misc_crime_stats.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#2000-present

Whilst I accept that these figures may not be 100% accurate, I do believe that the threat from terrorism has been greatly exaggerated - although I don't wish to dismiss it entirely or play down the role of our security services in preventing attacks. These hordes of terrorists really need to try harder. Dr Shipman killed more than all of them put together!

As for the topic of the thread, i.e. honour killings. This is a phenomenon which I have always found as baffling as I find it horrific.

I have never been able to understand how any society could deem it abhorrent to have a disobedient children but OK to have murderous parents.
 
Honor killings in the American South were quite common up until the mid-twentieth century. Black men who were perceived to have done something to dishonor a white woman, like look at her the wrong way or whistle at her, etc, would be lynched.
 
palemale said:
Honor killings in the American South were quite common up until the mid-twentieth century. Black men who were perceived to have done something to dishonor a white woman, like look at her the wrong way or whistle at her, etc, would be lynched.
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woo thats was a horrible history.
Was there a movie about whistling at white woman and lynching ?
 
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