All Eyes on Oregon Marriage Case

[Kulindahr]

Some beautiful pictures from today:

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/05/...e-sex-couples-begin-tying-the-knot-in-oregon/

Kulindahr, I've thought a lot about you today. I know you've mentioned on here a few times that you and other gay men in the area where you live have felt unsafe to be out to others. I hope that this helps break down the barriers that still exist in certain areas of Oregon.

It will cause a backlash before it helps.

 

[Kulindahr]

WTF???


NOM asks U.S. Supreme Court to halt same-sex marriages in Oregon

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/05/nom-asks-u-s-supreme-court-to-halt-same-sex-marriages-in-oregon/

 

[smokeshadow]

yea, they've been trying to weasel their way into the case even though lower courts have repeatedly said they have no standing

 

[rareboy]

WTF???


NOM asks U.S. Supreme Court to halt same-sex marriages in Oregon

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/05/nom-asks-u-s-supreme-court-to-halt-same-sex-marriages-in-oregon/

They know that they aren't going to be successful. They must just be trying to [STRIKE]raise[/STRIKE] bilk more money from the base.

 

[Kulindahr]

They know that they aren't going to be successful. They must just be trying to [STRIKE]raise[/STRIKE] bilk more money from the base.

I hope Kennedy has something scathing to say to them.....

 

[Alnitak]

I hope Kennedy has something scathing to say to them.....

All briefs are in. A decision is forthcoming, but for NOM I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[Ninja108]

All briefs are in. A decision is forthcoming, but for NOM I wouldn't hold my breath.

I'm hoping for a harsh smack down

 

[scream4ever]

I will be my next paycheck that the stay is denied.

 

[rareboy]

One understand that NOM is fairly begging supporters to turn up at the June rally in Washington despite their bullshit on their website.

Note the prominence of 'DONATE TODAY'

http://www.nomblog.com/39214/

Hopefully Huckabee will be silenced with their defeat as well...

 

[Kulindahr]

One understand that NOM is fairly begging supporters to turn up at the June rally in Washington despite their bullshit on their website.


Hopefully Huckabee will be silenced with their defeat as well...

That would be a blessing.

 

[Alnitak]

SCOTUS denies stay pending NOM's intervention request.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/06/supreme-court-refuses-to-put-same-sex-marriage-on-hold-in-oregon/

 

[rareboy]

Well that is one good sign......

 

[Kulindahr]

SCOTUS denies stay pending NOM's intervention request.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/06/supreme-court-refuses-to-put-same-sex-marriage-on-hold-in-oregon/

Ah, brevity:

The application for stay presented to Justice Kennedy and
by him referred to the Court is denied.

It's even better that the whole court spoke, not just Kennedy.

 

[scream4ever]

^^^I think that that's the main reason why Kennedy requested responses from the plaintiffs.

 

[T-Rexx]

SCOTUS denies stay pending NOM's intervention request.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/06/supreme-court-refuses-to-put-same-sex-marriage-on-hold-in-oregon/

I appreciate that the specific legal arguments are different, but it is interesting that SCOTUS would refuse to stay gay marriages in Oregon, when it was so enthusiastic about staying gay marriage in Utah.

 

[Alnitak]

I appreciate that the specific legal arguments are different, but it is interesting that SCOTUS would refuse to stay gay marriages in Oregon, when it was so enthusiastic about staying gay marriage in Utah.

The plaintiffs brief put NOM in its place and so did the denial. It indicates nothing beyond that.

 

[JackinSea]

Standing issue - NOM doesn't have any!

 

[Kulindahr]

I appreciate that the specific legal arguments are different, but it is interesting that SCOTUS would refuse to stay gay marriages in Oregon, when it was so enthusiastic about staying gay marriage in Utah.

I think it boils down to consideration

[Damn -- left to go get Bammer some water, came back, and haven't the slightest clue what I was going to say. Maybe I've been a bit heavy on the "special cookies" for pain.]


It would be nice to know the court's reasoning on the two cases.

 

[JackinSea]

The Gov and AG in Oregon fully agree with the plaintiffs, so if NOM were granted status, and a re-hearing, there is still only a very slim chance they'd prevail; so, no stay for such a remote possibility.

Utah's Gov and AG are (very!) actively opposing the decision, with a realistic (in theory anyway) possibility of prevailing.

 

[Kulindahr]

Standing issue - NOM doesn't have any!

Yes: http://www.advocate.com/politics/ma...urt-denies-nom-oregon-marriages-will-continue


And that reminds me of the difference I was going to point out: in Utah, the state government made the request; in Oregon, it was a totally outside organization.