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As you've not had sex with a man before, you're 'curious', but I hate labels.

Anyhoo, I'm moving this to the Coming out, Relationships and Bi-Sex Talk forum where you can get advice in a no-flame zone.
 
>>>What seems to trouble me is the fact that once I have cum, these desires quickly fade away and I become a typical 'straight' man again.

Meaning what, exactly?

When you're jerking off and plowing your ass, does your voice go up an octave? Do you start gossiping about your friends? Do you get this sudden urge to sing showtunes, buy A&F clothes, and redecorate? But upon orgasm, you feel like grabbing a beer and watching a sporting event?

That whole "I like the idea of getting fucked by guys" thing? Being attracted to guys? Watching gay porn? Well, we've come up for a word for that - "gay". This isn't some mild aspect that is found in a significant portion of homosexuals - it's the friggin' definition of "gay". :) Everything else is optional.

I'm six feet tall.
I've got a deep voice.
I'm a season ticket holder to a contact sporting team.
I listen to rock music.
I dress in T-shirts and jeans.
...but I like guys.
This means I'm gay.
Not a straight guy who likes sex with guys.
Just gay.

So what does this mean? Nothing. Just that you're probably gay or bisexual. What do you do? Not much. Just get used to the idea. And enjoy the sex, although it appears you've got that part down. ..|

Lex
 
Time to act on your desires as long as you aren't cheating on your gf to do it.

I'd talk to her about it as well.
 
...But what seems to trouble me is the fact that once I have cum, these desires quickly fade away...


Post fuck freak out. Usually seen in your finer fundamentalist closets.


...DAMN that was good...

:eek:

OH MY GOD THAT WAS GOOD!!!!!!!


...(insert preferred denial mechanism here)...
 
Don't try and put a label your self,if it feels good just go for it !!
 
If like to know how you are feeling about this so I won't be flip. You may be matter of fact, but then again you may be confused or even scared. I'm glad you shared this and if you want to pm a gay guy who was married to a woman and has two kids feel free to do so.
 
Congratulations and welcome to gay hood!

Your line about losing all interest after you come? Yeah, that's one of the same excuses I used for 40+ years to "convince" myself I was straight. But it's really called "denial" and it's an ugly place to be, so don't go there, OK?

Stay here at JUB and read as much as you can to learn what it means to be gay. Learn to love yourself for who you are, because I'm sure you're a beautiful person whether you're gay or straight.

After a while, being gay isn't so bad; in fact it's a lot of fun! :)

Let your girlfriend off gently, then go and explore your gay side. Ask questions and play safe!

Good luck! (*8*)
 
i think i must have explained myself a little badly here. I've never been attracted to a man in anyway, except to be fucked by one. The thought of kissing a man is a real turn off for me, and I dont find any men good looking at all - this is why I am so confused about my situation.

But you wanna get fucked by one. That's being gay. Eventually you might realize you actually do enjoy kissing them... then you might start to enjoy the idea of being in a loving relationship with one. Who knows?
 
i think i must have explained myself a little badly here. I've never been attracted to a man in anyway, except to be fucked by one. The thought of kissing a man is a real turn off for me, and I dont find any men good looking at all - this is why I am so confused about my situation.

Well, that’s kinda the definition of being attracted to a man. You want to have sex with one. Let’s look at what you originally posted. To wit:

…I find the idea of being fucked by a man extremely sexy, the same goes for giving a man a blowjob and wanking one off. But what seems to trouble me is the fact that once I have cum, these desires quickly fade away and I become a typical 'straight' man again…

Not only that, but you’ve gone so far that you’ve procured the means to simulate having sex with a man. There’s nothing wrong with that. But there’s nothing “typically straight,” about it. Straight guys, even ones who’ve had a passing curiosity never get that motivated. They don’t really want to have sex with men, it’s just a curiosity – easily ignored. They don’t come in here asking if they’re gay. They don’t have to. They don’t have the feelings you do.

Kissing is about intimacy, and I hate to tell you this, but guys in the closet or in denial will fuck you, but they won’t kiss you. That’s extremely common. When you think with your dick, your body says one thing. After you get off, your brain says another. That’s pretty much standard denial.

Which is what people in here are trying to tell you, it’s not uncommon at all for guys just coming to terms with their sexuality to say exactly what you’re saying. In fact, the syndrome is as old as time.


I have been watching lots of bisexual and cuckold porn recently, and I'm beginning to think that it may just be the whole humiliation thing that I like. I'm really confused about all of this.

It’s also extremely common for guys who haven’t come to terms with their sexuality to have lots of power dynamics in their fantasies. Hell even a lot of gay men still have those. Why? I suspect that if you think of gay as being taboo or somehow bad, that attitude gets caught up in your cock wanting a man.


oh and to G-Lexington, i dont mean that when i cum i change from "camp" to "straight". I meant that once I've cum, the thought of having sex or doing anything with a man doesnt appeal to me at all, and in some cases disgusts me - that is until I feel really horny again haha.

It doesn’t appeal to you at all because you did it, or fantasized about it, and now your libido is satisfied and your head is back in control, and you have to feel guilty, or justify it – until the next time you get horny enough to shut down the dissonance.

Your body wants one thing; your mind doesn’t want to admit it. Denial.

There’s nothing wrong with how you feel or what you want. You’re perfectly normal. Nothing you’ve said is out there or perverse. Just give yourself time to work through whatever it is that’s in your head – don’t stress. Yes, you’re either bi or gay and there’s nothing wrong with being either. Whichever you turn out to be, you’re not a straight guy, typical or otherwise, AND that’s JUST FINE! Welcome to Wonderland, Alice.

Now, DON’T cheat on, lie, or string along your girlfriend. She has a right to know where you stand, so when you figure it out, either let her go, or tell her first. There IS something wrong with being a user/abuser.
 
>>>oh and to G-Lexington, i dont mean that when i cum i change from "camp" to "straight". I meant that once I've cum, the thought of having sex or doing anything with a man doesnt appeal to me at all, and in some cases disgusts me - that is until I feel really horny again haha.

Exactly. But that's like saying "As soon as I finish a meal, I don't feel like eating at all....until I'm hungry again." That's pretty much how it works - post-orgasm, the interest wanes. The only difference between thee and me right now is this "disgust" factor, and I don't think that means you're straight. I just think it means you're not accepting of the fact that you're getting off on being gay.

So there'd be step one. Accept it. Like it. Love it. Once you're sitting there with a vibrator in your ass, and your hands and stomach covered in come, don't switch to the "ew, disgusting" mode. Enjoy the afterglow. Say "that kicked ass", because it did. :)

Lex
 
Twenty years ago, if a straight guy confessed to having fantasies about having something up his ass, then he had to be gay.

That's mostly because straight guys didn't confess to liking something up their ass- be it a finger or be it a strap-on.

Today, it's not so clear. Ass-fucking is the new black.

The question for you is whether this is all about fantasy- about being dominated, about being with a guy or about having something up your ass every now and then.

Or all of the above.

Before you go down this path of self-discovert, be sure that throwing away a 2 year relationship is going to be worth the heartache it will cause.

But if the heartache is inevitable, better to end it now before you embark on a marriage, children and a life of lies and deception.
 
bvw6969

In the whole spectrum of human sexual experience our society(s) are very quick to want to label and 'normalise' any behaviour. So, you have discovered that the visual stimulus of gay porn etc is a turn on, that anal stimulation is a turn on - but that kissing guys isn't. Don't get hung up on society's attempts to label and hence 'normalise' you. I think that you'll be happier knowing what turns you on without trying to put yourself in a box. With the gf, as others have suggested, talk about what turns you on, she'll soon let you know how she feels about this and it will either move you closer together or further apart. best wishes and be true to yourself. :-)
 
Don't think so much about straight, bi and gay. Think more about the fact that you are having desires to be with a man. What are you going to do about that? If you want to have sex with a man, I vote for doing that. Be honest with yourself. You are young, and you owe it to yourself to figure out what you like.

And yes I can relate to being totally turned off and disgusted by gay porn, fantasies, etc after I cum. That pretty much just means that you are over it, and you are not entirely comfortable with what just got you off. Since accepting that I'm bi, that disgust is gone. Now after I cum I'm like "Okay I need a sandwich" and that's that. If you are anything like me, then you need to take a deep breath and accept that xyz gets you off. It's not the end of the world. No need to be disgusted. There's nothing disgusting about it. Change your mindset and work through your inner turmoil because therein (from my perspective) lies the problem. Good luck.
 
i think i must have explained myself a little badly here. I've never been attracted to a man in anyway, except to be fucked by one. The thought of kissing a man is a real turn off for me, and I dont find any men good looking at all - this is why I am so confused about my situation.

I have been watching lots of bisexual and cuckold porn recently, and I'm beginning to think that it may just be the whole humiliation thing that I like. I'm really confused about all of this.

As a mostly-gay-but-sometimes-bi-guy-into-things-like-humiliation, your confusion resonates with me a bit. For example: when I'm really horny, I sometimes have this fantasy of being a slave to woman who makes me sexually service her instead of the men I really want to service. It's hard to explain, but it's a potent fantasy, and it does sometimes make me wonder "WTF? I thought I was gay, but am I really something else?"

For what it's worth, I've been lucky enough to have explored a couple of these fantasies with women, and though the experiences have been enjoyable, I'm still 90% attracted to men. My guess is that if you explored your fantasies with men, you'd still be mostly attracted to women.

It sounds like what would be best for you is a woman who's open to you exploring these other sides of yourself. Probably not easy to find, but you might have some luck in BDSM communities, which tend to be less concerned about gay/straight/bi and gender labels, and more into things like cuckolding and humiliation.
 
I don't really like putting labels on people, but i find myself on the flip-side of the majority. I want to say your straight if any thing bi. I don't think your gay if your still shooting off in your girlfriend. But skipping that. If you have those fantasies id explore on them. Because if your really not interested in guys at all like you say, or attracted at all, (although a little contradiction has taken place in your statements) it could be that you just like having your ass fondled n plugged. That doesn't make you gay just a tad bit kinky. The attraction to a man and the desire of being with a man is in my mind what makes you gay/ and bi if you feel the same way about women. But thats just my two cents.. Saying that if u are closeted (gay/bi) just come out life is full of experiences and thats another door with even more in it Hope i was any what helpful :)
 
WOAH he beat me to replying in the middle of a message but I just wanna say i agree with subobj (Good job X-plaining) he got what i left out about having a girl who is okay to help you explore :)
 
Well, that’s kinda the definition of being attracted to a man. You want to have sex with one. Let’s look at what you originally posted. To wit:



Not only that, but you’ve gone so far that you’ve procured the means to simulate having sex with a man. There’s nothing wrong with that. But there’s nothing “typically straight,” about it. Straight guys, even ones who’ve had a passing curiosity never get that motivated. They don’t really want to have sex with men, it’s just a curiosity – easily ignored. They don’t come in here asking if they’re gay. They don’t have to. They don’t have the feelings you do.

Kissing is about intimacy, and I hate to tell you this, but guys in the closet or in denial will fuck you, but they won’t kiss you. That’s extremely common. When you think with your dick, your body says one thing. After you get off, your brain says another. That’s pretty much standard denial.

Which is what people in here are trying to tell you, it’s not uncommon at all for guys just coming to terms with their sexuality to say exactly what you’re saying. In fact, the syndrome is as old as time.




It’s also extremely common for guys who haven’t come to terms with their sexuality to have lots of power dynamics in their fantasies. Hell even a lot of gay men still have those. Why? I suspect that if you think of gay as being taboo or somehow bad, that attitude gets caught up in your cock wanting a man.




It doesn’t appeal to you at all because you did it, or fantasized about it, and now your libido is satisfied and your head is back in control, and you have to feel guilty, or justify it – until the next time you get horny enough to shut down the dissonance.

Your body wants one thing; your mind doesn’t want to admit it. Denial.

There’s nothing wrong with how you feel or what you want. You’re perfectly normal. Nothing you’ve said is out there or perverse. Just give yourself time to work through whatever it is that’s in your head – don’t stress. Yes, you’re either bi or gay and there’s nothing wrong with being either. Whichever you turn out to be, you’re not a straight guy, typical or otherwise, AND that’s JUST FINE! Welcome to Wonderland, Alice.

Now, DON’T cheat on, lie, or string along your girlfriend. She has a right to know where you stand, so when you figure it out, either let her go, or tell her first. There IS something wrong with being a user/abuser.

>>>oh and to G-Lexington, i dont mean that when i cum i change from "camp" to "straight". I meant that once I've cum, the thought of having sex or doing anything with a man doesnt appeal to me at all, and in some cases disgusts me - that is until I feel really horny again haha.

Exactly. But that's like saying "As soon as I finish a meal, I don't feel like eating at all....until I'm hungry again." That's pretty much how it works - post-orgasm, the interest wanes. The only difference between thee and me right now is this "disgust" factor, and I don't think that means you're straight. I just think it means you're not accepting of the fact that you're getting off on being gay.

So there'd be step one. Accept it. Like it. Love it. Once you're sitting there with a vibrator in your ass, and your hands and stomach covered in come, don't switch to the "ew, disgusting" mode. Enjoy the afterglow. Say "that kicked ass", because it did. :)

Lex

Don't think so much about straight, bi and gay. Think more about the fact that you are having desires to be with a man. What are you going to do about that? If you want to have sex with a man, I vote for doing that. Be honest with yourself. You are young, and you owe it to yourself to figure out what you like.

And yes I can relate to being totally turned off and disgusted by gay porn, fantasies, etc after I cum. That pretty much just means that you are over it, and you are not entirely comfortable with what just got you off. Since accepting that I'm bi, that disgust is gone. Now after I cum I'm like "Okay I need a sandwich" and that's that. If you are anything like me, then you need to take a deep breath and accept that xyz gets you off. It's not the end of the world. No need to be disgusted. There's nothing disgusting about it. Change your mindset and work through your inner turmoil because therein (from my perspective) lies the problem. Good luck.

These guys nailed it.

You want to be fucked by a man? You're gay. Get over it. Gay doesn't mean bad or immoral or anything else negative. Get that out of your mind. Many of the greatest artists, scientists, writers, and actors have been gay. You're in good company. :). (*8*)

Love thyself.
 
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