Am I the only guy that doesn't see anything wrong with illegal downloading?

[CowboyBob]

Artists use their talents to create products for people to pay them. If you make a copy of their talent you're taking away from them what they're owed. Not to mention the countless producers, engineers and hourly workers who make a living assisting the artists.

I've published a few books which are copyrighted protected. It's my publisher who's pissed at people copying the work to which they paid me handsomely. It's their profits they're protecting.

 

[blackbeltninja]

All I am saying is, piracy exists and can't be controlled. Also, apart from some very isolated cases, it does NOT harm anyone (unlike rape, what sort of retarded comparison is that?) and no product gets stolen.

You are joking, right?

When you steal something, you end up with something you didn't pay for, and which wasn't given to you freely by someone who did pay for it and who has the right to give it to you.

When you pirate something, you end up with... something you didn't pay for, and which wasn't given to you freely by someone who did pay for it and who has the right to give it to you.

On the face of it, there is no difference.

QED, your Honour.

-d-

 

[sixthson]

All I am saying is, piracy exists and can't be controlled. Also, apart from some very isolated cases, it does NOT harm anyone (unlike rape, what sort of retarded comparison is that?) and no product gets stolen.

You claim to be a musician. If you one day make a living at it and record your music for sale, are you going to be cool with others pirating it instead of paying you for it?

 

[Rolyo85]

You are joking, right?

When you steal something, you end up with something you didn't pay for, and which wasn't given to you freely by someone who did pay for it and who has the right to give it to you.

When you pirate something, you end up with... something you didn't pay for, and which wasn't given to you freely by someone who did pay for it and who has the right to give it to you.

On the face of it, there is no difference.

QED, your Honour.

-d-

The product you pirate however is still available for everyone else. Unlike stealing an object, in which case that object is no longer available for purchase and directly harms whoever sells it.

 

[Rolyo85]

You claim to be a musician. If you one day make a living at it and record your music for sale, are you going to be cool with others pirating it instead of paying you for it?

1. I've been making money with music for 10 years now, but I play on orchestras, so that doesn't apply, but...

2. I wouldn't be "cool" with it - though it's easy to find a lot of people who ARE - but I'd recognize it as a part of the deal. Also, most people are actually willing to pay for a legal download if reasonably priced these days.

 

[ruivinho]

I thinks this fits here:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-wouldnt-steal-a-car-But-id-download-one-if-i-could/183252739422

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

am I the only one that thinks hollywood is fucked and the music industry?

just asking

 

[SaskGuy]

It's just like listening to, and copying music off the radio.
Actually, it should be a crime to charge for an MP3! You see the low quality crap they have on iTunes? What would you rather do? Pay for a 128 kbps bad re-recording, or download the original at 320 kbps for free? Maybe less people would download for free if iTunes offered MP3s that didn't sound like a crappy soundalike band on a Fisher-Price tape recorder.

You know what brought this on? Stores that charge $20+ for a CD... their greed eventually lead to their demise.

How about buying used CDs, records, etc? I guess they would consider that stealing too, since the money isn't going to the record companies.

 

[Audio Tech]

In the meantime I ONLY stream from Pandora or other music sites on the internet. At $20 a CD or low bitrate MP3 they can all kiss my ass.

 

[frankfrank]

Stores that charge $20+ for a CD... their greed eventually lead to their demise.

How about buying used CDs, records, etc? I guess they would consider that stealing too, since the money isn't going to the record companies.

I actually know somebody who thinks that people who sell used records or CD's in stores, music fairs, or on ebay, should all be prison. Because, after all, in his point of view, anybody selling used music is only doing so because somebody pirated their own copy of it so they can sell the hard copy. ALWAYS.

Yes...if the seller didn't do the piracy directly, that seller is ALWAYS abetting and aiding criminal piracy activity.

Yikes!!!!!!!

He is dead wrong.

 

[BreakTheIce]

It's actually really hurtful sometimes. As an example,

The white lion film in Africa was supposed to bring in money to an organization which was taking care of animals by donations given by other people. The center was on an extremely tight budget, they'd have to give their females birth control because they couldn't afford to care for new babies and such. The white lion who the film was based on was too old to be released anywhere and didn't have a pride of his own, so he was to be cared for as well.

But because people in South Africa illegally downloaded the film and people also sold pirated versions of the film, the center never received enough revenue from ticket sales to do anything and their animals continue to suffer.

Illegally downloading something is the same as you providing a service for someone, and they just closing a door on your face without paying you. It's basically not a good thing to do.