Americans millions of unemployed males.

[Kulindahr]

Benvolio's party of choice has always been quietly active in enabling employers to access labor as cheaply as possible. That includes both outsourcing and non-enforcement of social security checks on payrolls.

There are businesses that operate year-round on illegal immigrant labor, and it would not require rocket science to catch them. You could walk into their site of operation any day virtually and catch them doing it.

These businesses also support Ben's party.

The problem is that enforcement efforts are complaint-driven: they only look into a situation when there's a complaint, and not always then (I have no idea how they choose between complaints).

 

[Benvolio]

That's false, according to the article you linked.

Your confusion is understandable. The law labyrinthian in its attempt to ensnare employers while facilitating illigal immigration. Read it again and you will see that the company was fined FOR ASKING illegals, while not asking US citizens for their proof of immigration status.

 

[Kulindahr]

Your confusion is understandable. The law labyrinthian in its attempt to ensnare employers while facilitating illigal immigration. Read it again and you will see that the company was fined FOR ASKING illegals, while not asking US citizens for their proof of immigration status.

You're getting closer to comprehending, apparently -- you've sort of stated the actual point the article made. The fine was due to the "while not"; it wasn't due to "FOR ASKING".

 

[peeonme]

COLAs are part of the problem; they expand income disparity since they are based on percentages. Economically sound COLAs would be a flat figure for everyone.

The real problem is that while we are being fucked from here to hell and back by a system that represents only the wealthy or special interests, we nit pick and argue amongst ourselves rather than revolting against a 1 part system with 2 heads called republican and democrat.

 

[Benvolio]

The real problem is that while we are being fucked from here to hell and back by a system that represents only the wealthy or special interests, we nit pick and argue amongst ourselves rather than revolting against a 1 part system with 2 heads called republican and democrat.

Never forget that we still have the highest average income in the world, behind only tiny Luxembourg. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...G-rJcCa9DGPignjJnuzm-Q&bvm=bv.131783435,d.eWE, This,even though we are the third most populous country and allow in millions of poor unemployed each year. Before you do too much revolting, you should be able to point to a system which works better and has done so for awhile. Countries like Sweden were a homogenous people a short time ago and have only recently experienced the corrosive effect of immigration.

 

[Kulindahr]

Never forget that we still have the highest average income in the world, behind only tiny Luxembourg. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...G-rJcCa9DGPignjJnuzm-Q&bvm=bv.131783435,d.eWE, This,even though we are the third most populous country and allow in millions of poor unemployed each year. Before you do too much revolting, you should be able to point to a system which works better and has done so for awhile. Countries like Sweden were a homogenous people a short time ago and have only recently experienced the corrosive effect of immigration.

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you and never sunk in, average incomes are irrelevant.

 

[Kulindahr]

The real problem is that while we are being fucked from here to hell and back by a system that represents only the wealthy or special interests, we nit pick and argue amongst ourselves rather than revolting against a 1 part system with 2 heads called republican and democrat.

As long as we live in Lesterland, that will remain so.

 

[peeonme]

Never forget that we still have the highest average income in the world, behind only tiny Luxembourg. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...G-rJcCa9DGPignjJnuzm-Q&bvm=bv.131783435,d.eWE, This,even though we are the third most populous country and allow in millions of poor unemployed each year. Before you do too much revolting, you should be able to point to a system which works better and has done so for awhile. Countries like Sweden were a homogenous people a short time ago and have only recently experienced the corrosive effect of immigration.

If Mr. Smith earns $10,000. per year and Mr. Jones earns $100,000. per year the average is $55,000. dollars, I am sure that Mr. Smith will shit his pants in joy over learning how high the average is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living_in_the_United_States#International_rankings
The standard of living in the USA has fallen drastically for the working class as poverty has been more equally shared, how sad that the so-called capitalists had to take from Americans with an ability to produce and give to the communists in China according to their need.

 

[peeonme]

As long as we live in Lesterland, that will remain so.

Tremendous site, thanks for sharing.

 

[jbrown329]

See this: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...hat-asked-foreign-workers-if-they-were-legal/

Nice. Using a full blown racist website for your information Why not post links from Stormfront?

 

[Benvolio]

If Mr. Smith earns $10,000. per year and Mr. Jones earns $100,000. per year the average is $55,000. dollars, I am sure that Mr. Smith will shit his pants in joy over learning how high the average is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living_in_the_United_States#International_rankings
The standard of living in the USA has fallen drastically for the working class as poverty has been more equally shared, how sad that the so-called capitalists had to take from Americans with an ability to produce and give to the communists in China according to their need.

Even so, only tiny Luxembourg is higher. And, every time an immigrant arrives, the average goes down a little. Everytime a company sends work out of the country to escape democrat burdens, the average goes down. There are countries where employees are not regarded as the enemy.

 

[Benvolio]

Nice. Using a full blown racist website for your information Why not post links from Stormfront?

Liberal sources ignore antibusiness news.

 

[kallipolis]

Even so, only tiny Luxembourg is higher. And, every time an immigrant arrives, the average goes down a little. Everytime a company sends work out of the country to escape democrat burdens, the average goes down. There are countries where employees are not regarded as the enemy.

To China where labour rates are related to slavery.

Apple Inc. must be very happy to repatriate their European Union wide sales revenues to Ireland, to enjoy the advantageous tax rates negotiated with the Irish Government.

With Apple Inc. revenues parked off shore we can be certain that corporate independence is a sure remedy for those who value their Apple Inc. stocks, sufficient not to worry about tax payments, or slave conditions in Chinese factories manufacturing Apple products.

 

[Benvolio]

To China where labour rates are related to slavery.

Apple Inc. must be very happy to repatriate their European Union wide sales revenues to Ireland, to enjoy the advantageous tax rates negotiated with the Irish Government.

With Apple Inc. revenues parked off shore we can be certain that corporate independence is a sure remedy for those who value their Apple Inc. stocks, sufficient not to worry about tax payments, or slave conditions in Chinese factories manufacturing Apple products.

If you believe that, you should not buy or use a cell phone. It would be immpossible to produce the paying US high wages and all the dozens of US taxes and burdens imposed on employers. Would the Chinese be better off without those jobs?

 

[kallipolis]

^Bloomberg has chosen to comment on the enormous sums that US companies park off shore to avoid taxation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...stashing-2-1-trillion-overseas-to-avoid-taxes

I quote:

Microsoft Corp., Apple Inc., Google Inc. and five other tech firms now account for more than a fifth of the $2.10 trillion in profits that U.S. companies are holding overseas, according to a Bloomberg News review of the securities filings of 304 corporations. The total amount held outside the U.S. by the companies was up 8 percent from the previous year, though 58 companies reported smaller stockpiles.

The money pileup, reflecting companies’ incentives to park profits in low-tax countries, has drawn the attention of President Barack Obama and U.S. lawmakers, who see a chance to tap the funds for spending programs and to revamp the tax code. That effort is stalled in Washington, and there are few signs that tech companies will bring the profits back to the U.S. until Congress gives them an incentive or a mandate.

 

[Benvolio]

^Bloomberg has chosen to comment on the enormous sums that US companies park off shore to avoid taxation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...stashing-2-1-trillion-overseas-to-avoid-taxes

I quote:

The US has the highest corporate income tax rates of any major economy, behind only UAE and bankrupt Puerto Rico. http://freebeacon.com/issues/u-s-third-highest-corporate-tax-rate-world/
Why should income earned out of the country be taxed at the highest rate in the world? Why would corporations pay such a tax if it does not legally have to? How many of you greedy liberals have ever paid a tax you did not have to pay?

 

[DantheManFL]

The tax rate may be higher, but that doesn't mean anyone is actually paying that rate. We have more loopholes than any other countries I'm guessing.

 

[PacificBeach]

Maybe Trump should start manufacturing all of his shit in the US?

That would be too easy for his supporters. They really are deluded. I would say over 95% of the Tea Baggers who have now become Trumpanzees have never been outside of the country / North American beaches. Trying to have an honest conversation with them is like trying to have a logical / rational discussion with a sports fanatic for a specific team. It's a waste of time. They need to be beat like a drum. Be humiliated. Be routed. The only way you can reach them is via shame, and you need to keep that shame train going or literally next game/election they go back to their disgusting positions of ignorance.

 

[opinterph]

It is illegal to hire illegals, but it it illegal to ask them if they are legal.

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Actually, Obama did levy a heavy fine against a company for asking the immigration status of illegals. Really. The democrats have made it illegal to discriminate against someone on national origin, and illegal to hire legals, but also illegal to ask them their immigrations status. As you keep telling us, companies hire illegals. So why is Obama vigorous in prosecuting companies who ask but allowing the illegal hiring to continue. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ihJWjwF0IYaRjfq4-WpJBg&bvm=bv.131783435,d.eWE

Re: The Democrat plan is working: Immigrants taking jobs from Americans.​

 

[peeonme]

Even so, only tiny Luxembourg is higher. And, every time an immigrant arrives, the average goes down a little. Everytime a company sends work out of the country to escape democrat burdens, the average goes down. There are countries where employees are not regarded as the enemy.

How correct you are! Let's hear it for BEN! Break out the balloons and confetti, he got one right!
The employees in those countries are regarded as PROPERTY!!!!! SLAVE labor!
Both parties in our nation would do a chicken shit war dance if someone suggested bringing back slavery to our shores, why after all,
we believe in all men being created equal, being endowed by their creator with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Unless the poor bastards work in China, then we look the other way when it comes to human rights violations, our elected officials dare not piss off the folks that pay them and I don't mean us.