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An ethical dilemma

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Suppose the following scenario:

You are gay or bi. You have a really good friend you've known for years. You trust each other, you're always hanging out, etc... Problem is, you're dying to see him naked. He doesn't know you're not straight, though.

Now, this is what happens: you both go to a party, and your friend has a too much to drink. Lucky for you, he's staying over at your place. But he's so drunk you need to carry him...

His full of vomit, by the way. So, you know you've got to change his clothes and give him a shower, and see him naked...

Here's the ethical dilemma: what would you do?

You have to change him. Yet, you feel guilty of seeing him naked in those conditions... What would you do?


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PD: My profile says "straight" but i'm actually unsure...
 
I'd never do anything sexual to a non-consenting friend, drunk or not, because i'd be committing sexual assault. Regardless of whether charges were pressed or not, I wouldn't be able to live with that on my consciousness for the rest of my life.



/likely to be the deepest, most depressing response you'll receive in this thread
 
Nomenclature, it's changing your BF from vomit-ridden clothes into something nicer, not rape...
 
Where's the dilemma? You clean him up and put him to bed.

Just don't touch him inappropriately, and don't beat off until you're out of his sight.

Btw, how good of a friend are you if he doesn't know you're gay? And how desperate are you that you have to go after a straight friend?
 
Look, but don't touch...

I say do what you gotta do in order for him to not reek of vomit (for everyone's sake wherever you're staying), even if it means helping him shower and seeing him naked...just as long as you don't fondle his private areas or constantly stare.

So you may feel guilty now when it comes to spending some alone time with lube and a box of kleenex now that you saw the hidden treasures, but since you've wanted to see him naked for quite a while, chances are you've whacked off to him numerous times already so no need for the guilt trip. Instead, congratulations, may you now have more intense orgasms :D *|*

If he doesn't smell too bad, then change whatever clothes the vomit is on and he can shower the next morning (lucky you if some of it manages to be on his underwear).
 
I have seen a whole bunch of my really good friends naked. It happens often enough with really good friends. They all know I'm gay though...which is also something that really good friends are good for - knowing you and accepting it...

If he is a decent guy, he will be a hundred percent more okay about being vulnerable around you if you are honest with him.

I have a straight friend who I shared a bed with on a couple of occasions, and he would have me over for sleepovers and I'd stay in his room on a foam mattress, when we were in our 20's, if he wanted company that night for whatever reason.

He trusted me to know that if I wanted to jump him, I would have told him so, and knowing that let him relax about his personal space.

So yeah, I would say shower him down, clean him up whatever, but let him know who you are. And that is a guy who finds him hot enough to want to see him naked.

On the other hand, he wakes up covered in last night's puke and says "Damn that was a bad night" as he rubs his aching head. And you say, "Yeah, sorry I left you in pukey clothes, but the thought of seeing you all naked and covered in barf was making me get a chub." Nahhhh.. nobody would ever say that because you're not going to be turned on by him like that, right?

Now that I think about it, I didn't go back to all the guys I knew from school or university who I saw naked in the locker room and say "Hey sorry I saw you naked that time when we were changing after those swim lessons we both took at the same time two semesters ago. Remember that? Not really? I do. And I wanted to let you know I'm totally cool with the fact if you think it was awkward for me to see you naked because I think I might be gay."

Nope, nobody's saying that either.

Reality is in our world, guys see each other naked sometimes and it doesn't have to be sexual. But you maybe kinda want this to be hot, at least for you. So shit, I dunno.
 
I'd help clean him up, get him dressed and put him to bed. If you get to see him naked well bonus. It would be terribly inappropriate to touch him sexually or to take pictures of him naked. If he's had a few drinks and consents to sex that's one thing. If he's so drunk that he's vomited all over himself that's completely different.

be a friend. clean him up. put him to bed and move on.

Steven
 
I'd toss him in the shower, change him, and put him to bed with a trash can handy. And I probably wouldn't notice how he looked naked, because I was too busy trying not to vomit myself from smelling his vomit.

Lex
 
G-Lexington said:
I'd toss him in the shower, change him, and put him to bed with a trash can handy. And I probably wouldn't notice how he looked naked, because I was too busy trying not to vomit myself from smelling his vomit.

Lex
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Ugh I'm the same way, except I have done this for a friend before... The worse part was taking of the vomit clothes ugh.

You want to see him naked, thats a fact, but seriously what do you think he will be more pissed about? That you left him in his vomit clothes and reeking of vomit or that you were nice enough to shower him yet you saw him naked?

I have to agree with everyone above... If seeing him naked turns you on, put him to bed then jerk off in the next room or bathroom or something. Don't touch his private area or take pictures or anything like that. Also try not to touch his ass unless for some reason you need to hold him up. You just have to understand that your friend needs you and he needs you to be focused on getting the vomit off, not to his junk :-P
 
frstx88 said:
Now, this is what happens: you both go to a party, and your friend has a too much to drink. Lucky for you, he's staying over at your place. But he's so drunk you need to carry him...

His full of vomit, by the way. So, you know you've got to change his clothes and give him a shower, and see him naked...

Here's the ethical dilemma: what would you do?
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It's unclear whether this is a story created for your post or whether it happened.

And the real question is "What did you do?".



frstx88 said:
PD: My profile says "straight" but i'm actually unsure...
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You can change that.

Both in your profile and in real life.
 
Sex is the last thing on my mind if a straight friend is too drunk to walk and covered in vomit...
 
KaraBulut said:
It's unclear whether this is a story created for your post or whether it happened.

And the real question is "What did you do?".
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It hasn't happened, but quite frankly and knowing my friends I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet...

The craziest thing that has happened with me and my friends while drunk was having to break up a fight with a tree... :D





KaraBulut said:
You can change that. Both in your profile and in real life.
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hehehe
 
You're friends will all look hotter if they aren't covered in their own puke. And, fighting a tree has a certain kind of charming bravado I guess, but seriously, get your crowd to ease up a bit when they party...
 
If my friends are drunk that bad, chances are I'm not that far off, so there wouldn't be cleaning, just passing out on the couch once the door opens :D
 
Ask yourself: if your friend was ugly and disgusting and you'd NEVER want to see him naked in a million years, then would you still bother to take off all his clothes, shower him, and help him find some clean ones?

That's how you'll know what your true motive is.

I've been on both sides of this situation (the puke covered friend and the helpful friend) and nobody's ever stripped me down completely and given me a shower. Nor have I to anyone else. The most I've ever had done is having my shirt taken off and replaced, and having my pants removed, but boxers left on (after all, it's unlikely he somehow puked on his underwear too). Anything beyond that would make me feel a little creeped out and violated to be honest.
 
vetterx021 said:
Ask yourself: if your friend was ugly and disgusting and you'd NEVER want to see him naked in a million years, then would you still bother to take off all his clothes, shower him, and help him find some clean ones?
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Yet, I'd do the same: making sure he goes to sleep in a decent way... Thanks this is one of the best replies i've got
 
frstx88 said:
Yet, I'd do the same: making sure he goes to sleep in a decent way... Thanks this is one of the best replies i've got
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That's good, since you seem to have good intentions :)

You just have to be careful with what you do when you're in the care of someone who's inebriated and unaware of what's going on around them. What's "appropriate" an "ethical" changes from person to person, depending on your relationship with them and how comfortable they are about certain things (like being naked around friends). Follow your instincts.

And you may not want to hear this, but if you have to question the morality of something, then chances are it's not something you should be doing :(
 
vetterx021 said:
That's good, since you seem to have good intentions :)

You just have to be careful with what you do when you're in the care of someone who's inebriated and unaware of what's going on around them. What's "appropriate" an "ethical" changes from person to person, depending on your relationship with them and how comfortable they are about certain things (like being naked around friends). Follow your instincts.

And you may not want to hear this, but if you have to question the morality of something, then chances are it's not something you should be doing :(
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So, you've never questioned the morality of same-sex relationships, alcohol, tobacco, LimeWire music, bittorrent movies, and burning a friend's CD instead of buying it? :p
 
frstx88 said:
So, you've never questioned the morality of same-sex relationships, alcohol, tobacco, LimeWire music, bittorrent movies, and burning a friend's CD instead of buying it? :p
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But those aren't things that directly affect other people :p You may be hurting yourself with some of them, but you're not harming or breaking the trust of someone else.

Unless you count downloading music & movies. But that's something people do, fully aware that it's wrong :p
 
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