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an unarmed elderly black citizen who was shot to death

White Eagle

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I got an email about this and signed the petition. Police from White Plains NY. They will probably say "well he had a knife." I don't think that is a reason to kill. They used a taser on him and bean bag bullets. Why did they have to kill him?
There is a link at the bottom of this email. Please sign it.

Subject: Justice for Kenneth Chamberlain Sr.

Hi,

I signed a petition to Janet DiFiore, District Attorney which says:

"This petition is regarding the upcoming Grand Jury hearing in the case of Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr., an unarmed elderly black citizen who was shot to death by the White Plains Police Department.

This case not only brings into question the policies and practices of this department; but it is an open question whether it was inevitable, particularly in light of the audio tapes and video tapes witnessed by Mr. Chamberlain’s family members and attorneys where racial slurs and expletives were used before ultimately shooting him twice in the chest and killing him.

It is imperative that those tapes be made available to the Grand Jury, and that all other evidence be presented as well. I am concerned that secrecy so far--for example, the names of officers involved have not been released--bodes badly for transparency in this case as it moves forward. Nor am I aware of any public statements about the case from elected officials calling for openness.

Members of Mr. Chamberlain’s family and community--and a much wider circle of people who need to know there is fairness in the criminal justice system--seek reassurance that, no matter what the verdict, the process has been open, honest, and just.

We, the undersigned, implore Westchester County District Attorney Janet DiFiore to no longer allow police misconduct, brutality, or criminality to happen in this community and ask that these officers be indicted and charged with murder and civil rights violations."

Will you sign this petition?

http://signon.org/sign/justice-for-kenneth-chamberl?source=s.em.cp&r_by=424794

Thanks!
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“The victim is a white student at East High School (Kansas City) and regularly walks home after class. When he reached his porch, two black older teens grabbed him, pinned his arms behind his back and then poured gas from a gas can on the boy. They then set the boy on fire.”

This is more disturbing than the Florida murder but because the victim was white you hear nothing on it

I just don't get why black people can talk about lynching and everything but when whites do it....they're labeled racist.

Affirmative action and "trying to please black people" has gone too far.
 
london12 said:
“The victim is a white student at East High School (Kansas City) and regularly walks home after class. When he reached his porch, two black older teens grabbed him, pinned his arms behind his back and then poured gas from a gas can on the boy. They then set the boy on fire.”

This is more disturbing than the Florida murder but because the victim was white you hear nothing on it

I just don't get why black people can talk about lynching and everything but when whites do it....they're labeled racist.

Affirmative action and "trying to please black people" has gone too far.
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The difference between your example and Trayvon Martin is that the police are letting Martin's killer get away with murder. I assume, in your example, the killers are being, or were, prosecuted. That makes a huge difference.
 
palemale said:
The difference between your example and Trayvon Martin is that the police are letting Martin's killer get away with murder. I assume, in your example, the killers are being, or were, prosecuted. That makes a huge difference.
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The difference is no one even heard about the other case and Martin's case was tried and convicted on the news with no evidence or actual witnesses to the event. No one knows what happened because they weren't there, but that doesn't stop them from demanding Zimmerman be hanged before any trial.
 
london12 said:
“The victim is a white student at East High School (Kansas City) and regularly walks home after class. When he reached his porch, two black older teens grabbed him, pinned his arms behind his back and then poured gas from a gas can on the boy. They then set the boy on fire.”

This is more disturbing than the Florida murder but because the victim was white you hear nothing on it

I just don't get why black people can talk about lynching and everything but when whites do it....they're labeled racist.

Affirmative action and "trying to please black people" has gone too far.
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Hear nothing about it? It was on Kansas City News.

And as palemale said, the outrage is from Zimmerman walking, no arrest and the bungles police department. When the kids who poured gasoline are caught they'll be arrested and tried.
 
london12 said:
I just don't get why black people can talk about lynching and everything but when whites do it....they're labeled racist.
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Who is labeling white people racists for reporting this story? You really believe that this incident is the same as widespread lynching designed to keep the "uppity" blacks in their place? I don't get the equivalency of this story (beyond "oh look some black kids killed a white kid so it's the SAME thing in reverse so can we please just STOP talking about Trayvon Martin because racism is so over!") to the FL case because, as Giancarlo and "my" Cowboy stated, the ISSUE was that the police did nothing. I don't get what you mean by saying this.


london12 said:
Affirmative action and "trying to please black people" has gone too far.
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oooops...scratch that, I believe I DO 'get you" after all. :wave:
 
White Eagle said:
I got an email about this and signed the petition. Police from White Plains NY. They will probably say "well he had a knife." I don't think that is a reason to kill. They used a taser on him and bean bag bullets. Why did they have to kill him?
There is a link at the bottom of this email. Please sign it.
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Thank you White Eagle for bringing this to our attention. I signed the petition.

We have for too long been subjected to the brutality of so-called "peace officers". Instead of preserving the peace, once again, we have seen the police as agents of heinous crimes against the community. Let justice be done.

This from a seventy year old white gay man, formerly in the military.
 
LuvFindsAndyHardy said:
Who is labeling white people racists for reporting this story? You really believe that this incident is the same as widespread lynching designed to keep the "uppity" blacks in their place? I don't get the equivalency of this story (beyond "oh look some black kids killed a white kid so it's the SAME thing in reverse so can we please just STOP talking about Trayvon Martin because racism is so over!") to the FL case because, as Giancarlo and "my" Cowboy stated, the ISSUE was that the police did nothing. I don't get what you mean by saying this.
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Kansas City now has a black mayor and black police chief -- who didn't feel there was any need to further investigate-- they think the kid was lying.
 
Jack Springer said:
Kansas City now has a black mayor and black police chief -- who didn't feel there was any need to further investigate-- they think the kid was lying.
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Do you have a citation for this assertion? I tried googling the story, and didn't find anything that supports your assertion.
 
I read the story. The part about the officers needing to physically check the residence after getting a call like this makes sense.

The matter is under investigation by a Grand Jury and that's the way things are supposed to work. The work that a Grand Jury does is not transparent, by it's very nature. They'll have access to everything they need to make a decision.
 
Justjustice said:
Thank you White Eagle for bringing this to our attention. I signed the petition.

We have for too long been subjected to the brutality of so-called "peace officers". Instead of preserving the peace, once again, we have seen the police as agents of heinous crimes against the community. Let justice be done.

This from a seventy year old white gay man, formerly in the military.
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You're welcome.
I get requests for a lot of petitions but this one needed posted here. This is just one of many such crimes.
BTW welcome to the forum.:D
 
palemale said:
Do you have a citation for this assertion? I tried googling the story, and didn't find anything that supports your assertion.
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It's hard to find any information anymore. I searched the local paper and a couple of TV station's websites -- it's been cleaned.

The guy's name may have actually been Allen Goin instead of Allen Coon.

It was covered on local radio stations after the incident and later when it was dismissed by the police.
 
The police officer who allegedly killed this war hero has been named and due in court later this month.
The cop has been named as the most brutal. Good cop!

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/6/new_details_emerge_over_police_fatal

April 06, 2012
New Details Emerge over Police Fatal Shooting of Elderly Ex-Marine Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr.

Democracy Now! co-host Juan Gonzalez has obtained a photograph of White Plains Police Officer Anthony Carelli, the officer alleged to have fired the two shots that killed Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr., the 68-year-old former Marine whose medical alert button accidentally summoned police to his apartment last November. The police union has blasted the release of the officer’s name, saying he deserves the right to a fair and impartial inquiry. Chamberlain’s son said he agrees, but notes that the White Plains police failed to grant his father the same opportunity.
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Jack Springer said:
White Eagle ... if you want to make this about race.

Did you see this? It's Obama's other son named Tyrone. He raped and killed an 85 yo woman. The couple had been married 65 years.

Start a petition on this one.

http://www.krmg.com/ap/ap/crime/family-shaken-after-attack-on-elderly-tulsa-couple/nLX5z/

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/first-degree-murder-charges-filed-against-teenager/nLdPS/
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Jack, that isn't the subject of this thread. If you'd like to start a thread and a petition to go along with it, please feel free. Please don't hijack this thread.

It is a matter of great public concern any time a citizen is killed by the police. That's as it should be. Let's allow events to unfold and to let the investigation take it's course.
 
White Eagle said:
The police officer who allegedly killed this war hero has been named and due in court later this month.
The cop has been named as the most brutal. Good cop!

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/6/new_details_emerge_over_police_fatal
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The officer named by the reporter has a civil case pending. I didn't see any indication that he's been adjudicated either in court or by his department as being brutal in any way. Or did I miss something?

We certainly need to know how the events of this particular evening unfolded. I don't see an issue with officers forcing their way into a home on what was essentially an unknown emergency. The dispatch tapes will show what exactly they were sent on. That will be important, if not crucial to the case.

There are claims that Chamberlain wielded a knife. It's odd that someone who inadvertently set off a medical alert device would respond in such a manner. But the course of events that people agree on, are that he was tased and then shot. That's the kind of actions that are consistent with officers meeting an armed individual, not someone who accidentally set off his alarm.

I'm not seeing this whole business about keeping the names of the officers secret. If it's a righteous shoot, you did it. Own up and move on. Maybe it's a New York thing. I don't put much stock in what people tell a reporter. If you've got a story to tell, put your left hand on the Good Book and tell it to the Grand Jury. Trying cases in the media is always a bad idea.

At the end of the day, we need to know the truth. Did the officers act lawfully or not? We don't want publicly funded assassins running about. If they were justified, they similarly should receive unconditional public support.

Just my two cents.
 
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