And Let's not forget about the other Deplorables

[TX-Beau]

Guess who's whining now - even the Oligarchs can see the cliff.

Tech billionaire Peter Thiel, who previously supported former President Trump, said the Trump administration was “crazier” and “more dangerous” than he expected, in a recent interview...

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[rareboy]

Another one who has a vision on the road to Damascus.

But in a minute he would capitulate and suck Trump's hole if it meant meant more power and money for him and his ilk.

He enabled this. He will be like those Weimar Republic power brokers who got swept up in the maelstrom of their own creation...although he is so rich as a power fag...that he will be immune...it will be just the rest of the American LGBTQ that end up with pink triangles on their business suits.

 

[TX-Beau]

Another one who has a vision on the road to Damascus.

But in a minute he would capitulate and suck Trump's hole if it meant meant more power and money for him and his ilk.

He enabled this. He will be like those Weimar Republic power brokers who got swept up in the maelstrom of their own creation...although he is so rich as a power fag...that he will be immune...it will be just the rest of the American LGBTQ that end up with pink triangles on their business suits.

Being a power fag didn't help Ernst Röhm. It's the Chistoban who will be manning the pitchforks.

Best we all vote, and vote blue, fuck Stein, Manchin, and that weirdo anti-vaxer Kenedy spawn.

 

[rareboy]

If we could only convince all those in the more cow than people states.

Because for some fucking bizarre reason that is still incomprehensible...they determine who is president.

 

[TX-Beau]

If we could only convince all those in the more cow than people states.

Because for some fucking bizarre reason that is still incomprehensible...they determine who is president.

I know I've explained the E.C. before. The tendrils of Slavery are still with us.

The cow states are the ones who want Herr Trumpenfuhrer.

 

[Norri]

Pretending Toad will respect the rules, precedent, tradition, or the rule of law is folly. None of this matters if he wins again.

Whatever the rules say - he'll make those orders anyway, they will be carried out by an executive staffed by fascists anticipating this eventuality, and what will Congress do when Toad just ignores them? Subpoena him?

When he orders Justice to investigate and arrest them? Will they hold hearings? Sue? Sure the law will catch up, a few years later, will that even matter by then?

You are telling yourself there are curbs on his power mad crazy, that is a mistake, it's how people end up under dictators.

If he gets back in office he'll order the police state, they will immediately begin to implement it, they will immediately start trying to remove and punish all opposition. The executive has the police authority, and Congress and the Courts have no corresponding capability. Turning a blind eye to that is foolish.

What will they do when he tells them to go fuck themselves?

Even with his election BS Trump always tried to say everything he is doing is constitutional so now since that tactic failed he’ll just grab power and everyone will fall in line. They may not fall in line like they didn’t for Speaker Jordan so he will need the military to back him up and I don’t think they will.

Trump is too ignorant and too much of a coward to pull this off……dangerous men have a plan and lead the way Trump is just a wannabe.

 

[TX-Beau]

Even with his election BS Trump always tried to say everything he is doing is constitutional so now since that tactic failed he’ll just grab power and everyone will fall in line. They may not fall in line like they didn’t for Speaker Jordan so he will need the military to back him up and I don’t think they will.

Trump is too ignorant and too much of a coward to pull this off……dangerous men have a plan and lead the way Trump is just a wannabe.

We had principled officers in the Joint Chiefs that weren't chosen by Toad then. It's one of his first priorities now.

Comparing him to Jordan is a false comparison. Jordan was up for an office that the horde had no say in. If that had been a vote among all 'Pubs, Toad's endorsement would have elected him.

Falling in line was precisely what happened last time. It was all the 'Pubs in Congress "moderate" or no who were first in line to smooch the orange pucker.

Convoluted, masterminded, devious plans of criminal genius are generally fiction. Power-hungry individuals with no gall, shame, respect for order, and a vague idea can steamroller our rights away. It already started. Just ask any woman, any gay peson wanting to hire a baker, trans people kicked out of sports...

 

[Norri]

We had principled officers in the Joint Chiefs that weren't chosen by Toad then. It's one of his first priorities now.

Comparing him to Jordan is a false comparison. Jordan was up for an office that the horde had no say in. If that had been a vote among all 'Pubs, Toad's endorsement would have elected him.

Falling in line was precisely what happened last time. It was all the 'Pubs in Congress "moderate" or no who were first in line to smooch the orange pucker.

Convoluted, masterminded, devious plans of criminal genius are generally fiction. Power-hungry individuals with no gall, shame, respect for order, and a vague idea can steamroller our rights away. It already started. Just ask any woman, any gay peson wanting to hire a baker, trans people kicked out of sports...

let us not forget that if Trump finds his lackey generals they still have to be approved by the senate and you think they will just fall in line and I don’t. The Jordan vote was a vote of the republican conference, that’s all of them. True the horde had no say but aren’t you counting on pressure from that horde to force congress fall in line?

In the Trump world you describe Jordan wins……but he didn’t perhaps you might adjust that world view.

 

[gsdx]

No, listen to him, he's telling you exactly what he plans on doing, and it starts with an orgy of revenge.

I've been listening to him. And I've posted several times in this thread that his re-election would mean 4 years of revenge on anyone who has angered or has treated him as lesss than the god he considers himself to be. It will be 4 years of hell and, if the US comes out of it in one piece, I will be very surprised. Even if he loses the election, I will be surprised if the US comes out of it in one piece.

But, since I was simply trying to inject a bit of levity into a very serious topic...

 

[TX-Beau]

I've been listening to him. And I've posted several times in this thread that his re-election would mean 4 years of revenge on anyone who has angered or has treated him as lesss than the god he considers himself to be. It will be 4 years of hell and, if the US comes out of it in one piece, I will be very surprised. Even if he loses the election, I will be surprised if the US comes out of it in one piece.

But, since I was simply trying to inject a bit of levity into a very serious topic...

Mea culpa, this subject causes me a huge amount of anxiety. The stakes are literally my civil liberties. If Toad wins, I fear I will end up a refugee. Maybe not immediately, but there is only one place that road leads.

 

[TX-Beau]

let us not forget that if Trump finds his lackey generals they still have to be approved by the senate and you think they will just fall in line and I don’t. The Jordan vote was a vote of the republican conference, that’s all of them. True the horde had no say but aren’t you counting on pressure from that horde to force congress fall in line?

In the Trump world you describe Jordan wins……but he didn’t perhaps you might adjust that world view.

With Manchin out, even in a good Dem year, it's likely the Senate will flip. No, Jordan is irrelevant to the situation, he's just a sideshow. The House pubs hated him for reasons that had nothing to do with Toad.

You seem to think that Toad is going to care what the Senate approves, he'll just appoint "interim" officials and say fuck you to the Senate IF they oppose him.

He has ALREADY DONE THAT. Congress did fuck all about it. Let me reiterate, there is no norm, rule, tradition, or law he will respect, he will do as he pleases and dare you to stop him, and so far, the right is on board with that. They don't want a democracy, they want him to be a dictator, THEY SAY THIS EXPLICITLY.

The horde isn't going to riot for anyone but Toad. Therein lies the danger and the opportunity. They could give a fuck about Jordan generally and Congress in toto specifically. They will however vote where he tells them to vote. The rest of the 'Pubs are uncertain, but they have certainly almost all fallen in line, twice.

 

[gsdx]

Mea culpa, this subject causes me a huge amount of anxiety.

Believe it or not, it gives us up here north of the border a great deal of anxiety as well, and has throughout our (Canadian & American) histories. In 1969, Pierre Elliott Trudeau (Justin Trudeau's father and future prime minister) gave a speech to the Washington Press Club. In that speech. he said:

"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.

- Pierre Elliott Trudeau."

That quote is still relevant today. Trump has and had more of an effect on Canada than you can possibly imagine, and our Conservatives are becoming more and more like your Republicans every day. Trump and the Republicans have damaged our country as well.

 

[smokeshadow]

what is wrong with Ohio's lawmakers

'God Given Rights': Ohio GOP Lawmakers Will Try to Strip Jurisdiction Over Abortion from Judges

Citing “God given rights,” anti-abortion Republican state lawmakers in Ohio on Friday announced they are looking to strip jurisdiction over abortion from state judges and courts, after voters successfully, by a strong margin, passed a ballot measure that enshrines the right to abortion into the...

www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com

 

[Norri]

With Manchin out, even in a good Dem year, it's likely the Senate will flip. No, Jordan is irrelevant to the situation, he's just a sideshow. The House pubs hated him for reasons that had nothing to do with Toad.

You seem to think that Toad is going to care what the Senate approves, he'll just appoint "interim" officials and say fuck you to the Senate IF they oppose him.

He has ALREADY DONE THAT. Congress did fuck all about it. Let me reiterate, there is no norm, rule, tradition, or law he will respect, he will do as he pleases and dare you to stop him, and so far, the right is on board with that. They don't want a democracy, they want him to be a dictator, THEY SAY THIS EXPLICITLY.

The horde isn't going to riot for anyone but Toad. Therein lies the danger and the opportunity. They could give a fuck about Jordan generally and Congress in toto specifically. They will however vote where he tells them to vote. The rest of the 'Pubs are uncertain, but they have certainly almost all fallen in line, twice.

We’ll leave it at this you worry about him Just grabbing power while those who are losing it simply watch and I’ll worry about the things he says that might happen because he’ll have public support such as eliminating civil service or rounding up illegal immigrants.

Jordan doesn’t fit your narrative so he’s irrelevant………got it.

 

[johaninsc]

 

[TX-Beau]

We’ll leave it at this you worry about him Just grabbing power while those who are losing it simply watch and I’ll worry about the things he says that might happen because he’ll have public support such as eliminating civil service or rounding up illegal immigrants.

Jordan doesn’t fit your narrative so he’s irrelevant………got it.

Apparently, reality doesn't fit into your "narrative" whatever that means.

Jim Jordan is absolutely irrelevant to whether or not Toad gets re-elected.

Got it.

 

[TX-Beau]

Last week, Tim Miller, the gay Bulwark writer who was communications director for Jeb Bush’s campaign in 2016 but left the GOP, tweeted out that Matt Gaetz appeared to be “outing” the GOP Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Missouri Congressman Jason Smith...

MSN

So, Pedo intends to blackmail all the closeted 'Pubby homophobes. Miss Lindsey must be quaking in her pretty satin slippers.

 

[rareboy]

He does have resting gay face certainly.

 

[TX-Beau]

He does have resting gay face certainly.

Top? Bottom? Schlock screams bottom, so top? Of course, they both could have been bent over for that "photographer."

Schlock seemed to be into Circuit Boys, not Bears.

 

[rareboy]

Gaetz should still be a little wary of the lavender mafia in Congress though.

But I'm seeing Smith as more of a closet bottom based on his voting record.