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Ann Coulter: Homos should be anti-abortion

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I think she should be aborted or drop dead.
 
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So... if she does believe that it is a gene, then she knows that we are born this way, so why is it OK to hate us?

And That would raise an interesting question for an anti gay, pro life person.
 
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The 'gay gene'? I seriously doubt whether things are that simple.

Look at the sheer variety of human sexuality, most people are not 100% gay or 100% straight.
 
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That's one time that I believe that she's correct.

However, I think she's still got part of it wrong. I doubt that very many people who are "pro-choice" would go ahead and get abortions because the fetus was likely to develop into a gay baby/person, as she seems to be saying. People who are pro-choice tend to come from the same demographics who are more OK with people being gay.

No, I think it would be ANTI-ABORTION people such as her, who would see to it that any fetus which may possibly turn gay, would be aborted. Anti-abortion people are very often also the same people who "hate us" - I think that those two sets of people intersect over a very large percentage of their areas, mathematically speaking.

I've been saying this for many years...as a likely scenario if a "gay gene" could conclusively be spotted in utero. Of course this ASSUMES, in the first place, that such a gene exists - which I'm certainly not convinced is true, at least to the degree that sexuality is DETERMINED. However I think there may be a "gay gene" which merely makes it MORE LIKELY that a person will be gay - just as there are genes which make some people more susceptible to colon cancer, peanut allergies, etc. The absence of these genes doesn't mean that a person is guaranteed to be born as a "straight" person who will never get colon cancer or experience a bad reaction from eating peanut butter, either...

[EDIT: @Taz, who posted as I wrote mine: As I mentioned, I think most commonly anti-gay people are pro-life, and I think the corollary is also often true, that pro-life people are often anti-gay. Many of them, I think, would show their complete hypocrisy, their utter moral bankruptcy, by having that "bundle of faggot cells" killed, therefore putting the lie to their alleged pro-life stance and showing they're pro-life only when it suits them.]
 
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Seems odd to hear her making an argument based on the presumption that homosexuality is inborn or genetic rather than a choice.

Does she have a point? Perhaps.

Were such proof to become available, and were there some way to test for it, I think it would pose a dilemma for at least some members of the Unholy Alliance, in that at least some of them would probably be forced into a choosing of the lesser of their two evils situation -- do we let a queer be born, or do we abort?

Her argument seems also to be based on a kind of steady-state reasoning that social mores are fixed or rigid and that they don't change over time.

The argument also seems to require a massive amount of social or mental change over time, that those troglodytes who have a Fred and Barney view of history, where our ancestors were dancing with the dinosaurs, will somehow come to accept and believe the science of genetics, and come to believe that both that science and the possible tests will be infallible. Perhaps she has more faith in 'progress' than that old fusspot Flaubert, who once remarked, 'Whatever else happens, we shall remain stupid'.

The argument isn't new; this isn't something where she put on her thinking cap and suddenly dreamed it up ex nihilo. Others have made it before.

On a side note, I do find it mind-boggling to hear her saying that blacks have rights given them by the Constitution which do not apply to any other group of people.
 
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What will it take to get this woman to just shut up?
 
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You either accept the premise that being gay is simply inborn or you have to accept the notion that it is a choice.

If you think it is a choice, the you similarly have to accept the downside of that including the notion that gayness can be cured.

If it is inborn, and can be reliably predicted before birth, people will certainly abort children who are gay for whatever reason. Just as they now choose to abort children with severe birth defects.

If you have supported abortion for whatever reason the mother wants it, you can't now deny here right to murder an unborn gay person because she feels like it.

Worse yet, consider the possibility of genetic engineering in the future. You'll be able to design your child to be smart, athletic or whatever traits you want them to have. Think many people will be checking the gay box as one of their choices?
 
Re: Ann Coulter: Homos should be anti-abortion

She does seem to have a point, wether she was putting her opinion in the statement I don't know, probably. I don't think she's saying necessarily that she wants people to abort gay babies, well since she's anti-abortion then no she's not saying that. I think she just is saying that people will go after the gay gene when dealing with abortions and choosing how their baby will become.
 
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jackoroe said:
You either accept the premise that being gay is simply inborn or you have to accept the notion that it is a choice.

If you think it is a choice, the you similarly have to accept the downside of that including the notion that gayness can be cured.

If it is inborn, and can be reliably predicted before birth, people will certainly abort children who are gay for whatever reason. Just as they now choose to abort children with severe birth defects.
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Sexual orientation is never a choice.

Any more than we can choose our natural parents, or natural siblings.

Engaging in sexual relations with another human person is our choice.

Each homosexual person is as unique, as the heterosexual person.

Those who frequent gay bars will know how different each gay person is.

There is no credible medical science research to support the notion that homosexuality is inborn, or nurtured. We still don't know despite all the false alarms from research scientists pretending to offer us the right answer.

Bisexual sexual relations among mature people who are not languishing in prison poses another dilemma for those who believe that a minority sexual orientation is a matter of flawed genetics, or environmental factors such as inadequate nurturing.
 
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rareboy said:
homos should
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The operative words. Ann Coulter has neither the right, the authority, nor the ability to tell anyone what he SHOULD do. I will think and do what I bleeping well please, without Ann Coulter's approval. If he/she doesn't like it, he/she can go straight to Hell. End of story.
 
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whether I agree with her on other issues or not she does make an interesting point. There's no doubt in my mind some people would choose to abort if the genetic trait was present. Their already doing it with downs syndrome and other issues. It's been a while but I was watching one of those 60 minutes type news programs and they were talking about the countries where the desire to have a male child ends many pregnancies. When the ultrasound confirms the baby is a female they abort and try again for a male. How sad.

Steven
 
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Georgiadude said:
whether I agree with her on other issues or not she does make an interesting point. There's no doubt in my mind some people would choose to abort if the genetic trait was present. Their already doing it with downs syndrome and other issues. It's been a while but I was watching one of those 60 minutes type news programs and they were talking about the countries where the desire to have a male child ends many pregnancies. When the ultrasound confirms the baby is a female they abort and try again for a male. How sad.

Steven
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India features prominently in aborting female babies.
 
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Re: Ann Coulter: Homos should be anti-abortion

She's operating on the theory that acceptance to gays will worsen and not get better which is something that only followers of her cult will believe. Polls are revealing everyday that more and more are ok with gay marriage and equality in general in America so it doesn't make sense that our culture is progressing on gay acceptance while aborting gay babies at the same time. Also you know the hollywood community is going to lobby the government make "gay abortions" illegal because if it was legal to do this it will mean the end of the American entertainment business in the future!

But more importantly why do some gay guys support this crazy CUNT anyway?
 
Re: Ann Coulter: Homos should be anti-abortion

Ann, have a carrot and a sugar cube and STFU.
 
Re: Ann Coulter: Homos should be anti-abortion

What's the phrase I've read already today... oh yes... she's the gift that keeps on giving.
 
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