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hotatlboi said:
And you just proved my point. The police weren't able to find drugs or sex going on. Or weapons. If the owner did have a permit. Than what could the police pin on them. They'd have to keep trying and it might have gotten to the point where they couldn't pin anything on them. But it might have been even minor or they might have had nothing to pin on them.
For some reason it seemed like you were saying a majority of the people were from out of town. I don't think most of them were though. It wasn't a major event or holiday in Atlanta too. Now if this was pride or something than I have a feeling a majority would be from out of town. But than again there would have been more people at the eagle.
The fact that I've been talking to many people who go to the eagle. Not just honorable men, but men who are a bit hedonistic or who have just been there before and witnessed it. I've gotten views from all the sides. But like I said. It doesn't happen until much later in the night. The fact is they have a black out room in the back.
The point of a black out room is generally for sex. Even black out mazes in some places. The point of that is for sex. You really think people are going to go in a "BLACKED OUT ROOM" just to chat, talk about the weather or things like that? That's the point of black out nights at bars too.
I don't think you understand how much SEX has to do with the gay lifestyle. But that isn't always a bad thing.
I think I phrased that wrong. And after thinking about it most likely that was the immediate thing that happened when the police entered the bar. And that was before they found out the owner diddn't have a permit. What I think is more the owner's fault is that fact that he lets sex go on thursday nights (even though he denied this) and claims to have no knowledge about it and blasts porn music to neighbors who complain to him and expects for "nothing" to happen.
But maybe I don't quite understand bars. Straight bars have their sex too. But than again their location is different. However, according to the articles before this whole fiasco there was never any complaints with the neighbors and no one had a problem with it. Apparently something isn't being told or a few people just complained and for some reason the police took it very seriously.
We still don't know the reason why the police told everyone to get on the ground. That might be protocol for police. Now it is still unknown if the manhandled the customers and slammed them to the ground, kicked them, and cursed at them. But since they are the red dog unit that might just be what they do.
And they explained that the red dog unit was so that there wasn't any confusion of if they were official or not. Again, I am not sure if that is true. But it's the reason the police gave.
Because I know people who go there and who have been going there for years. And I also know that sometimes there isn't a guard by the door and people can actually get in regardless of their age. Because I've known people who have done so.
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THE EAGLE. Do you know what it's about and do you know lots of people who go there and do you know the history of it and what it was before it got new owners. Do you know anything about the eagle.
Because it seems pretty damn ignorant to not realize what underwear nights and black rooms and blackouts at a bar (especially gay bar) mean.
The reason I think the bar is in threat of getting a bad reputation or being closed is because everything is being brought to public attention. You are a good example. You had no idea sex nights and sex parties existed at the eagle. You had no idea drugs were done and that thursday night people got it on.
But now the whole city is reading about it and the whole city knows. And regardless of someone's orientation not everyone is all for sex in public. At the same time the police look bad now too because they did so much of this without explaining their reason's til later and even than it's unclear if everything they are saying is true.
Both the police and eagle are getting great attention. But not all of it's good.
Unfortunately it's easy to group and generalize everyone sometimes. Like you said there could have been some out of town travellers there. However, even so a majority of people who frequent gay bars or KNOW about gay bars know what that underwear night, black outs, and stuff like that equal sex.
But as you have proven to me there are still a few naive people out there who have no idea that the eagle can really be a seedy place on thursday nights and had no idea that sex goes on.
So because of that there might have been a few naive people at the eagle who weren't aware of the sex. Or maybe some that just wanted to go before the sex started later in the night.
But you can believe what you want to believe. You don't sound like you know much about the eagle and bars in general.
But i don't know you well so I don't know how much knowledge you have of things. But everything you've said makes it seem that away anyways.
