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Anthony Bourdain found dead

I find it bizarre that Bourdain, Spade and Queen Maxima's sister Iles, all wealthy and successful people, died via hanging all within days. Crazy.
 
^ saw that celebrity suicides result in other ones and a tick up of 10% in overall suicides. Does seem like he got the idea from her.
 
I was sorry to learn of his suicide. I did not know that he had such a turbulent life.
 
Re: Anthony Bourdain dead.

NotHardUp1 said:
NPR ran a story this past week covering the special election for mayor, and the role homelessness has played in dominating the debates and campaigns. The article isn't very good journalism, but here is it for reference: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/04/6167...ss-is-a-big-issue-in-mayoral-special-election

Many would argue that the city is struggling with bad parenting, or what equates to bad public policy regarding the homeless. What was seen for decades as the most tolerant and accepting city in the nation has by effect become a Mecca for the homeless. Of course, there is the also the contributing factor of San Francisco "enjoying" skyrocketing housing costs, so much so that working class people have been left out of the success story, and welcomed to commute in and out of the city to live far away. No one seems to question the morality of rising home prices -- it's merely a boon to the owners and an inconvenient nightmare for anyone who is a renter or poor.

But worse, the acceptance of the drop-out lifestyle has been a problem all of its own. Even after the city spent billions on accommodating those who flocked to the city to do nothing, it has only served to make the city a growing cesspool of homeless "camps," what would have been called hobo villages before the homelessness movement took on political rights. I was there in the 80's on business, and it was bad enough then that it made a bad impression, so I can only imagine how much worse it must be today.

San Francisco appeared to be idyllic because they had managed to exclude ghettos and slums from their environs by economic barriers, and in so doing, left the very poorest nowhere to be but underfoot, which is where they are now. To make matters worse, they became enshrined in this social philosophic principle that they were somehow virtuous because they were homeless instead of there being some realism added to the mix. In the end, and it appears to be the end, that sort of king's-new-clothes approach to a deadly social ill has left a city beleaguered by its own charity and the abuse it has encouraged. After all, the pigeons just keep coming when feed is thrown out every day indiscriminately, and shit-covered statuary isn't really a park for humans any more at that point.

The mentally ill, the victims of parental and spousal abuse, should be housed on the city's dime, but housed. The rest, let them migrate to the next city that flings open its doors and asks nothing in return. There are many thousands who find that life completely acceptable and in fact choose it. They should be free to do so but the citizens of San Francisco are just as free to vote to stop encouraging the camps in their midst.
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Yes. All of this is POST 1982, when AIDS began, and men were being "divorced" by their families. They also lost their jobs and homes. That was the beginning of the major part of the homeless crisis, although you could see it around 8th and Market Streets. The 6th Street corridor was so "Black," that people shyed away from it, yet it was hardly even dangerous: I played dj in a bathhouse there. I never had any problem from the people hanging around. EVER. It also had a bar that catered to transvestites. My friend Evie was one of them. But people DID show up there more in the 80s, I noticed, than the '70s. And so the homeless problems mushroomed. Oh, and "Zaretsky," quoted in the article? She arrived around 1987 - the HEIGHT of the AIDS crisis. Even Glenn Burke, formerly a Los Angeles Dodger back in the 1970s, a very sweet guy back then, changed. My best friend - who was equal to Glenn in height and weight - told me that Glenn had followed him down the street one night. Odis had the distinct impression Glenn was going to rob him, but it never happened. It was a bad time. Glenn had AIDS. So, imagine, if a former LA Dodger had problems with life in SF, what it must have been like for others. I knew Glenn, since we had the same first name, and he was - when I knew him in the late 70s - a VERY sweet man.

Homelessness only bothered me when Crystal Waters put out "Gypsy Woman, She Homeless," and the gay community danced to it with such verve, screaming yelling when the dj segued into the song - all the while ignoring the gay men living homeless in the Castro. The gay community, as a whole, was not great with the homeless issue. But then, they had AIDS to contend with. Not an excuse. Just an observation.
Ironic that it was founded as a blue-collar, working-class city. B of A was founded for the poor working man. Look at it now.
But this is off subject, so, sorry.
 
I was in San Francisco in May and was shocked at the crime, homelessness and drug use. Cool city but not sure if I'll be back anytime soon.
 
anger is NOT a good way to react to people who kill themselves, please use compassion and sympathy for those who feel they can't handle the world .. because we don't know what they are thinking and we don't know what pain they are going through .. put yourself into their shoes and know that life is precious, it's all you can really do

RIP Anthony Bourdain, he brought the world to us via good food, cuisine, travel and adventure, he will be missed dearly .. and one very HOT sexy daddy too!
 
rareboy said:
It is way too soon for this.

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nope he died at Strasbourg.
 
I would suspect that poorer countries are perhaps more likely to have fewer reporting systems that capture the extent of the suicides. God only knows they are difficult enough to gather accurately in first world countries where stigma contributes to underreporting them.
 
I would think that poorer countries would have less suicides because, well, since everyone is in the same boat, they wouldn't know how bad off they are. I know suicides are higher in far nieth countries due to lack of sunlight.
 
I was asked, so I can confirm the French Procurer said Bourdin hanged himself in what is considered a suicide. His friend Eric Ripert found him first.
 
I personally know three men that have committed suicide. I think those of us that remain are on the outside looking into an abyss we cannot fathom. Here are some resources:

Hotline = suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ 800-273-8255



Via txt www.crisistextline.org



Support on the web = mentalpod.com
(jump into the forums, triggering threads will be labeled)
 
although he suffered from depression he did seek help---but the bad news is there is a story that he was madly in love with his much younger girlfriend---then someone took a pic of her hugging a very hot guy her own age---some believe this pushed him over the edge. Maybe something simple like this could push a depressive personality to make a bad decision.
 
Re: Anthony Bourdain dead.

frankfrank said:
I was VERY surprised about this. The inner turmoil, which NotHardUp1 was able to notice, wasn't anything I was ever able to detect at all. I always saw him as an exuberant guy with an unbridled zest for life, maybe at the worst a hint of moodiness on rare occasions.




Yes, he did that...though Vannie came up with apparently a totally valid alternative answer - I'm not familiar with the guy Vannie mentioned, not at all.

Not mentioned here (I don't think??) was that his show was called PARTS UNKNOWN, and is among the "off-hours" shows that can run on CNN.


Such a good answer. When one is famous, privacy is lost. They can't do something as innocuous as going to the convenience store to buy milk (and yes, some uber-rich people, who have their help/servants do these errands, probably REALLY WISH they could do that in anonymity, and get the fresh air...and, also yes, THEY can run out of milk just as we can).

There are also numerous stories about humble and well-adjusted people who won the Lottery big time (i. e. millions of dollars), and suddenly went off the deep end.

I think that becoming rich SUDDENLY (which did sort of happen with Anthony) is much harder to adjust to, than becoming rich slowly but steadily.

I've said that if suddenly Bill Gates up't-an'-gave me three billion dollars, I'd STILL go to the cinema, go out for walks, eat at the Thai place around the corner, and STAY in the place that I'm in right now...I don't just mean Chicago, but even the unit I currently live in. I can't imagine I'd rethink my friends, not even the homeless guy I know in Miami. (OK, I'd see to it that he didn't stay homeless...) I wouldn't suddenly have a hankering to run around with the golf, jet-setter, snowbirds-with-seven-houses-and-mansions, Michelin Three-Star crowds. Why change friends when you already have wonderful ones?
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I believe Bourdain was born into a well-to-do family. So, money is not the culprit here.
He was just an unhappy guy with many past addictions. Some event triggered all the pain he'd been suppressing, and, as suicides do, he took his own life. It's always sad when someone kills himself, because the people he/she leave behind suffer for many years afterwards.
 
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