Anyone going to Harry Potter tonight?

[Apollo]

I've seen this movie a second time now, and I really have to say it's definitely not the worst film in the series. It's actually my favourite.

And this movie was supposed to be released last November so it was being filmed at the same time as 'Twilight' so I don't see how you can say they cut plot points to satisfy 'Twilight' fans. Besides, this is way better than 'Twilight', just saying.

Anyway, the whole romance thing played a huge role in this book anyway, and if they didn't emphasise it early on in this movie it's hardly going to make sense for the final ones.

All the Harry and Ginny stuff was ghastly though, I did buy it in the book, but then in the book they didn't have all this cringe worthy stuff between them. He just had a growly chest and they kissed on the spur of the moment and then broke up at Dumbledore's funeral.

I'm not that fussed about Dumbledore's funeral, the wand issue is a moot point because Draco has the elder wand now after having Expelliarmus-ed Dumbledore.

I was more concerned over the locket issue in OOTP than anything they skipped over in this book.

I didn't really care for any of the deaths in this series bar the book version of Dumbledore. I hated the actor for Dumbledore in the movies and I really didn't buy the Harry/Sirius connection. Cedric wasn't really worth the amount of screen time he took up in GOF so I didn't care for him neither.

Now if McGonagall or Hermione were to die, I'd probably care then, but they don't so... it's funny the time I had the most emotion reading this book was when one of the Death Eaters spat in McGonagall's face. I was furious.

Anyway, I reckon they'll fill us in on the Horcruxes in Deathly Hallows Part 1. Let's face it, if they didn't that would be one slow movie...

Stop panicking, he'll do it justice.

No, Draco didn't take the Elder Wand. In one of the last scenes, they show the elder wand on Dumbledore's desk.

 

[luminum]

Though he's still the rightful owner. Now no one has to break into the tomb to get it.

 

[scains]

Did he need to take the wand? I thought that the power switched to whoever defeated the unbeatable wand, that's how Harry managed to get it off of Draco.

That's how I read it.

 

[Apollo]

Did he need to take the wand? I thought that the power switched to whoever defeated the unbeatable wand, that's how Harry managed to get it off of Draco.

That's how I read it.

In the book, the wand is buried with Dumbledore, and Voldermort figures out that Dumbledore had it.

Then Harry somehow channeled Hermione and figured out Draco was the rightful owner, and Harry defeated Malfoy.

 

[luminum]

Right, except now the wand is easier to access, but the plot twist has remained essentially the same.

 

[TickTockMan]

I was going to make a new thread, but since this one is back I will try here first.


Anyways, if two non magical people can have a magical child do they know fully what the school is? If they do, how are they told? Also is being a witch suppose to be in their DNA or what?

 

[Apollo]

I was going to make a new thread, but since this one is back I will try here first.


Anyways, if two non magical people can have a magical child do they know fully what the school is? If they do, how are they told? Also is being a witch suppose to be in their DNA or what?

this is all explained in book one. i think in movie one as well.

but anyway, at 12. The magical child of two muggles (non magical people) recieves a letter from the school telling them their child is a witch/wizard. Here's how to get to the place to buy materials for your child. Blah blah blah

Yes, it is in their DNA.

 

[scains]

Right, except now the wand is easier to access, but the plot twist has remained essentially the same.

Well, I wouldn't say it was easier to access since you would need McGonagall's password to get into the office. And also, she might be keeping Dumbledore's wand in a safe place. Who knows? So it doesn't really matter that the wand wasn't buried with Dumbledore.

 

[Apollo]

Well in the last book, Snape is the headmaster of Hogwarts not McGonagall, so it wouldn't really be that hard.

Most likely, and I HOPE, they will have the funeral at the beginning of the next movie, and it will show Dumbledore buried with it.

 

[TickTockMan]

this is all explained in book one. i think in movie one as well.

but anyway, at 12. The magical child of two muggles (non magical people) recieves a letter from the school telling them their child is a witch/wizard. Here's how to get to the place to buy materials for your child. Blah blah blah

Yes, it is in their DNA.

I have been looking for the books at the library, but they are always checked out. I would like to start reading them now that I think they are all out. It would be nice though if she would write the history of the world she made though.

So what happens if the muggles don't believe the letter? Do they get a visit?


If you can't tell I have a thing for the stories behind the story.

 

[scains]

Well in the last book, Snape is the headmaster of Hogwarts not McGonagall, so it wouldn't really be that hard.

Most likely, and I HOPE, they will have the funeral at the beginning of the next movie, and it will show Dumbledore buried with it.

Well since Snape is on Dumbledore's side and not Voldemort's, it wouldn't be too difficult for him to stash the wand - especially since he is an accomplished legillimens. Eh?

 

[Apollo]

I have been looking for the books at the library, but they are always checked out. I would like to start reading them now that I think they are all out. It would be nice though if she would write the history of the world she made though.

So what happens if the muggles don't believe the letter? Do they get a visit?


If you can't tell I have a thing for the stories behind the story.

Yeah pretty much.

You can get the full set of books for like 50 bucks if your willing to pay for them.

 

[Apollo]

Thynight, you really shouldn't be reading any of this. It is something you really want to discover after reading all the books.

Well since Snape is on Dumbledore's side and not Voldemort's, it wouldn't be too difficult for him to stash the wand - especially since he is an accomplished legillimens. Eh?

Know one knows that Voldermort is looking for the Elder Wand. He doesn't tell anyone really.

For a lot of the book, they all believe the Deathly Hollows are fake, because it has been turned into a childrens story.

So Snape wouldn't know to hide Dumbledore's wand, because when Dumbedore dies, I don't think he had any idea what Voldermort wanted.

 

[Apollo]

But Draco (at least I don't think he did) did not physically take the Elder Wand from Dumbledore in the book either. He simply disarmed him and the wand rolled off into the background somewhere. As a matter of fact, that's something I've always wondered about that scene. Who was it that found and retrieved Dumbledore's wand from the Astronomy Tower? None of that is fully explained. I didn't know he was even buried with it until "Deathly Hallows" when Voldemort robbed his tomb for it.

Yeah, in the book, the wand just rolls away.

No one knows that the wand is the Elder Wand/Deathstick/etc... so they wouldn't think to take Dumbledore's wand.

And a wand is a personal thing to wizards, like an extension of their body, so taking Dumbledore's wand would cross no wizard.

Most likely they went back up there and retrieved the wand so that it would be buried with him. Probably a standard wizard practice? Bury you with the thing that made you a wizard in the first place.

 

[godson112]

Voldemort raids Dumbledore's tomb?
I need to read the last book again...

 

[Apollo]

Voldemort raids Dumbledore's tomb?
I need to read the last book again...

It is implied that he did.

I'm not sure. My mind is saying that Harry saw a vision of Voldermort realizing who actually was the last owner of the wand. And that sends Harry and crew back to the castle. Resulting in some of the most exciting chapters in literature ever.

 

[Apollo]

I thought it was more than implied. Harry was able to see through Voldemort at the time: Voldemort floated over to the tomb by the lake, blasted the tomb open, looked down on Dumbledore's smiling peaceful face and grabbed the wand from out of his hands in triumph.

Voldemort's meeting with Grindelwald helped him figure out who the last owner of the Elder Wand was.

Harry and the crew went back to the castle to look for the next Horcrux. (after Harry had discovered through reading Voldemort's mind again that it was hidden at Hogwarts)

Remember, it was Horcruxes over Hallows that Dumbledore wanted Harry to search for.

Oh shit, YEAH! Thanks for setting that straight.

I thought Harry saw that Voldermort figured it out and was going back to stop him. Now I remember that Voldermort did get the wand, and they came back to find the last Horocrux and they were defending the castle while Harry looked.

But the wand wasn't really working like Voldermort had expected.

And I mistaked Nicholas Flammel for Grindewald

 

[Apollo]

No problem, I lack a life so therefore I pretty much know this stuff backwards and forward . Although Ron wanted Harry to go back to the castle to try and stop Voldemort from collecting the wand.

I forgot what exactly was the problem with Voldemort and every wand he touched throughout the book. I know they explained it, but it all went straight over my head. Some of the explanation got a bit too far-fetched for my liking and I guess I blocked most of it out.

I think it was that he couldn't use his wand to kill Harry because their wands were connected or something.

But everyone elses wand were subpar or something, and the elder wand would be perfect.

I know the Elder Wand didn't work right for him, because it was meant for Draco and not him.

IDK, it's gets all murky and into wand lore and stuff. I'd have to reread the books to give a good explanation.

 

[Apollo]

I understand the connection with the wands, my issue is I didn't get how that affected Harry's wand to act on it's own accord during the Seven Potters battle. Voldemort was using a different wand than his own, and if Harry's wand could pick out Voldemort no matter what wand he used then how come the wand didn't act like that on every ocassion Harry faced danger against Voldemort? I just found that scenario way too hard to believe. Rowling reached a little too far when she drafted that one up.

I was under the impression it was Dumbledore reaching out from the grave or something. Like wasn't Dumbledore in purgatory, waiting for Harry to get there and they could talk?

In that scene, didn't Harry glance on Dumbledore's lightening blue eyes or something before it happened.

To be honest, I don't really know. It was never really explained clearly to me. I had to guess for myself.

 

[Gooble]

new Harry Potter sucks IMHO