Anyone here in retail or used to be in retail? What would constitute "suspicious"?

[NotHardUp1]

Hardup, please stop white knighting right now. I’ve already explained why I questioned the OPs story, I’m not “randomly” calling him a liar and couldn’t give two fucks if he shops at Wal-mart, I mean really? You’re reaching that far? You are seriously just as catty as many other posters while trying to appear above that.

I stand by my posts. If I comment on posting, it is the content, not merely insult. Calling a post a lie is pretty stout. There's literally no threshhold for where anyone could arbitrarily just start doing that to every post. It should be noted, and it should merit response.

Since I began posting on this site, I have made exactly the type of argument for rationale that I make here. It is not a change, not new.

When I refute a position, I post data or cite examples. It's all over my posting history.

Quesioning a story and simply calling it a fiction are not quite the same. It is doubtful if it is doubtful, but accusations of lying really go to character. What incentive should the OP have for fabricating this thread? It doesn't make him look better. It doesn't take a political or strategic position. He always has responses to his threads, so he's in no need of eliciting posts for the sake of it.

For you to impugn his character, you need to create a plausible rationale for the alleged fabrication. You allege he has a history of it. I have been here before Zombie ever joined, and I don't remember any proven lies, only the partisan accusations that we are talking about now. If you allege he fabricated before, provide the link.

The OP was a request to comment on the situation and the reasoning. Whereas you can post almost anything on JUB and get away with it, not answering his question and accusing him of being a Republican, or of being a liar, or calling him a name for some reason is really a diversion of the topic of the thread.

Query: "Why do the checkout lines at Wal-Mart always fill up when I need to get home soon?"

Response: "You're an idiot for shopping there, that's why."

It's a reply, but it should draw fire as it was intended to insult. Your insult drew fire.

 

[moniker]

Maybe they thought you were helping to establish alibis for three friends who were pulling a caper at the same time! Well, it's possible.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Nope. One credit card. Or did I get the story wrong? He merely needed three receipts to get reimbursed or claim expenses to the right company, individuals, etc.

 

[eastofeden]

Nope. One credit card. Or did I get the story wrong? He merely needed three receipts to get reimbursed or claim expenses to the right company, individuals, etc.

Credit Card thieves can and do try to establish credit or other limits on an account if possible...as I learned.

When I had my wallet stolen years ago...I had never been into a Wal Mart in my life at the time...I wasn't even sure where one was...but the thieves used one card at Wal Mart multiple times the same day...each transaction right around 200.00..and then at gas stations?????...like how much gas did they need? I still can't figure out what hey did except to fill up all their friend's cars too?...or maybe giving cash back? I never take cash from a credit card so I don't even know how that works...I get irritated when the machine even asks me...so maybe that was the problem.

By the time Circuit City called me to ask me if it was really me buying the Big Screen TV....and I then realized my wallet was gone...they had spent thousands.

 

[NotHardUp1]

My card for my credit union account was hacked at a gas pump just before I made a long trip three years ago. I happened to be checking its balance online, as I was using it exclusively for my vacation and wanted to see how I was doing versus my budget.

Two $100 charges showed up for a Wal-Mart in the South Valley in Albuquerque, where I'd never been. I immediately called to block the card.

The police met with Wal-Mart to look at the security cam footage for the sale. It was a purchase of two $100 cards at WM which were bought with a duplicate card the thief had made with my digital information. Never did learn if they'd managed to arrest anyone.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

You are acting like I run around on the board calling people liars, which I don’t. And I stated why but apparently that’s not good enough for the sanctimonious brigade who jumps on my back because I dare question a posters story because it doesn’t add up to the actual experience I have in these situations.

Apparently I am not allowed to make baseless acussations but it’s totally cool for you to do when it comes to my posts.

 

[eastofeden]

The police met with Wal-Mart to look at the security cam footage for the sale. It was a purchase of two $100 cards at WM which were bought with a duplicate card the thief had made with my digital information. Never did learn if they'd managed to arrest anyone.

That is exactly what cost me thousands of dollars...not to mention the merchandise itself.

They took a valid card number and made their own card (pre chips)...so when it didn't scan on the strip....I punched in the numbers and the transaction went through each time....BAD IDEA....

In the booklet of small print that I didn't bother reading (my fault)....it says when that happens with the magnetic strip as they can also legitimately be worn and not work.... I needed a physical imprint of the card on the old style machine in order to protect myself....

Live and learn...but that day this couple made a number of purchases on the same card....I wasn't suspicious then..but now...I would be a fool not to at least figure out where they are coming from if they want to do three separate transactions....

 

[NotHardUp1]

You are acting like I run around on the board calling people liars, which I don’t. And I stated why but apparently that’s not good enough for the sanctimonious brigade who jumps on my back because I dare question a posters story because it doesn’t add up to the actual experience I have in these situations.

Apparently I am not allowed to make baseless acussations but it’s totally cool for you to do when it comes to my posts.

I am and have been talking about the behavior in this thread, and in the consistent harrying of Zombie since he returned. It's practically a regular little bitch squad come out to see that his threads are met with scorn.

I think it's only sanctimonious when it is someone challenging you, as you never apply that term to your own posts when observing exactly as I am now.

Questioning someone's post is asking how it could be. Defaming a member is telling him he's lying. They are not the same.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

There is no “scorn” here, you are dramatizing this whole thing as if there is a planned attack on the user. He creates plenty of threads that I personally don’t even take part in.

At the end of the day, I don’t really give a shit. I don’t pretend to be better than the OP making the thread, I questioned the validity of the thread and said he was a liar. But I have two members accusing me that, I am either judging him because he shopped at Walmart, doing it because I don’t like him and ganging up on him, making the accusation that saying he’s a liar is equal to me telling him to leave, and telling me my points are baseless while you make actual baseless accusations towards me even when I explained my position with actual experience in this department. THAT is sanctimonious, that’s why it doesn’t apply to me because I don’t do that shit.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I'm still trying to figure out the police part, for non-violent calls they're not about to go flying down the highway yet in the time it took to check zombiekiller out the store called the cops AND the cops hunted him down in his vehicle. this makes no sense to anyone who works/worked in retail. and/or has dealt with police in both emergency/violent and non-violent calls.

 

[pat grimshaw]

...Cops barely come out at all anyway, I’ve dealt with multiple situations where there was at least 500 dollars worth of items stolen and the Police still didn’t show up. So this story seems a bit off to me....

But the police come to Starbucks for free-loungers.

 

[Dominus]

But the police come to Starbucks for free-loungers.

As I mentioned elsewhere, it is impossible for me to prove my little experience, which wasn't that dramatic anyway. I didn't take a video and posted it all over social media. It was late and I just wanted to go home so I didn't question or anything. I was probably held up for may be 10 minutes top.

In the past, the same poster accused me of lying about my profession. Hence since I came back I never talk about it anymore. Why? Because short of outing my identity, which would open my personal and professional life up to attacks, there really is no way to prove what I do for a living. He knew this, which was why he accused me of lying about my profession every chance he had. Then he would use his accusations as absolute proof that I lied from thread to thread. It's like me accusing you of being a pedo in one thread without any proof, and then in other threads claim that since I proved you were a pedo blah blah blah. And notice how the only way for you to disprove me is to out your identity just to show that you're not on any sex crime registry. This is a very effective trolling method.

This is the reason why I stopped arguing with him on these points. Why do I have to prove anything to him? I'm calling out his trolling.

 

[Dominus]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/...ction=click&module=Intentional&pgtype=Article

So, according to exhibit A this sort of thing never happens, ever.

 

[rareboy]

^ Yeah. But you aren't black. And they weren't following you around. They were suspicious about how you paid for your purchases. And they didn't call the police.

You are one of the first people to racially profile blacks....so please don't try to use their experience. It just smacks of self serving hypocrisy.

But yeah, Nordstroms really have a lot to answer for. This is the Barneys debacle all over again.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Damn, bumping this thread almost 2 months later because people on the internet didn’t believe your story.

 

[Dominus]

^ Yeah. But you aren't black. And they weren't following you around. They were suspicious about how you paid for your purchases. And they didn't call the police.

You are one of the first people to racially profile blacks....so please don't try to use their experience. It just smacks of self serving hypocrisy.

But yeah, Nordstroms really have a lot to answer for. This is the Barneys debacle all over again.

Of course I'm not saying my experience was anything like what those young men experienced. But according to someone in here, and he claims to know this shit, retail stores never ever ever ever ever call the police, like ever, unless they know for sure a theft is being committed. So, according to his logic, surely anyone who claimed to have been questioned by police must be lyin'. I'm just pointing out that his logic doesn't really hold water considering I almost never brought it up and Zeus knows how many profiled black people never reported it. All most people know is they never got questioned by police so they assume it never happens.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Damn, bumping this thread almost 2 months later because people on the internet didn’t believe your story.

and trying to use the same black people he'd profile in a heartbeat to prove a point

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I didn’t claim police never show up. Literally the same month this was posted I was harassed by Police because I was walking doen the street in a hoodie and apparently “fit the description” of someone. You need to move on, I don’t think anyone cares about this topic anymore outside of you.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Of course I'm not saying my experience was anything like what those young men experienced. But according to someone in here, and he claims to know this shit, retail stores never ever ever ever ever call the police, like ever, unless they know for sure a theft is being committed. So, according to his logic, surely anyone who claimed to have been questioned by police must be lyin'. I'm just pointing out that his logic doesn't really hold water considering I almost never brought it up and Zeus knows how many profiled black people never reported it. All most people know is they never got questioned by police so they assume it never happens.

it's weird that you left the store and somehow they got your license plate and the police managed to catch up to you on the road

 

[Dominus]

I didn’t claim police never show up. Literally the same month this was posted I was harassed by Police because I was walking doen the street in a hoodie and apparently “fit the description” of someone. You need to move on, I don’t think anyone cares about this topic anymore outside of you.

In other words, you want to get away with calling me a liar and then in the future get away with pointing back to this thread as "proof" that I was a liar.

Not too many posts ago, you claimed to know this shit and that retail store never calls the police on occasions like this. Now you're trying to walk that back while maintaining that I'm a liar?

May be in your world calling someone a liar is a little thing to do. I'm certainly not going to let it go until you take it back.

So, tell us again how this sort of stuff never happens, ever. And since I said it happened to me I must be lying. Go on, tell us how many years of experience you have and you know this shit.