Apalling message I got on Adam4Adam

[MindBlast]

Two more words: Safe, and Sane.

I've always heard that Safe, Sane, and Consensual is the gold standard for kink.

Eating poo may be consensual, but it seems to fail Safe and Sane.

However the main point I want to make here is these things don't become safe or sane just because I feel like it or someone else does. And frankly they don't fail just because I say so. If you can show me, contrary to any doctor's advice on hygiene that I've ever heard, that eating poo has no serious health consequences, then I'd change my mind on that criteria, even though it still holds no appeal for me. Same thing for "sane." I don't think someone with well-adjusted sense of self would eat poo.

MindBlast, you hit the nail on the head - health effects are just something that can be reported by doctors and compiled by statisticians. It isn't a matter of someone "feeling okay" about it.

If someone's fetish is to swap blood as part of some kind of vampire kink or whatever, it just fails the safe standard.

Exactly. What about that European (was it German?) guy that consented to being killed after eating his own penis or something. I can't remember the exact story, but that qualifies as unsafe and insane, even though it was consensual.

 

[MindBlast]

I'm more offended that I have to scroll down that much more on my mouse ball to get past your signature...

Have you guys capped the maximum signature size (in terms of pixels vertically) yet?

 

[Absolut]

Have you guys capped the maximum signature size (in terms of pixels vertically) yet?

It's been brought to our attention, yes

Now, back to the shimming...

 

[Absolut]

I've seen people use bottles for sexual stimulation.

But broken glass has got to hurt. lol

Like reone implied, that thread got removed...

*shudders and won't be able to sleep tonight*

 

[Absolut]

I saw it before then...God, why did I watch that .


I'd actually completely erased it from my memory up until about five-ten minutes ago .

Likewise.

Check your comments Elvin.

*goes and cries in the fetal position in the corner*

 

[sixthson]

Just because we are gay it means we have to be tolerant of everything? You can call eating shit a fetish if you want, but I call it sick. There, we both passed judgements on it.

 

[nate78]

Alright enough is enough... don't eat poo, yours or anyone else's. We're all adults and yet some of us need to be told that this is a bad idea? If I come across as being critical, that's fine as long as you quit eating poop.

In unrelated news... I hope... hi Abs!

 

[kevbo]

I don't know if I'd be disgusted if I got that proposition... I'd probably say OMFG, start laughing, and click delete.

 

[Absolut]

Yeah, sharting isn't quite my cup of tea, regardless if said tea has been brought out already

 

[kevbo]

Although...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk0xCSkKeqA[/ame]

 

[Mstrshake]

Just because we are gay it means we have to be tolerant of everything?

Just for the record, this was not at all what I was trying to say. Sorry that you interpreted it like this.

 

[Lube]

Exactly.

I'm disgusted by some of the judgmental responses I'm reading here. Who are you to try to call someone 'sick' when a good number of society would view you the same way for fucking men? It's so depressing to see such intelligent people harbor such idiotic biases.

Ranking fetishes (acceptable to unacceptable) and what gets someone off sexually is pretty damn stupid. No matter how 'gross' you may find things...it doesn't make someone less than a human for finding pleasure in them.

I don't 'get' how someone can shove a metal rod in their dick, but I don't think something is 'wrong' with them for doing so. And as crazy as it seems to me, I know that it's MY problem...not theirs.

*sigh* wow...

Excellent post.

I am quite happy in my 'vanilla world', and you seem to have an issue if people DON'T want anything more.

Lines should be drawn somewhere. Otherwise, you risk accepting ever-increasing questionable behavior

You don't have to like kink. I never said anyone was weird or sick if they didn't. Just enjoy your vanilla world and leave us alone. Just as gay men tell homophobes to leave us alone.

And that's the exact same logic that people use for not accepting gays: "you risk ever increasing questionable behavior if you accept gays as normal--soon we'll be accepting bestiality or incest!"

See the similarity?

You don't care what the fetish is, but I think that oversimplifies things. Not all fetishes are equal. Some, even if not shared or taken seriously, can be appreciated as amusing and harmless. For instance, sex dressed up in fur suits as Japanese-style animated cartoon animals. Pointless, harmless, unerotic to me but if it amuses you, go to town. Licking an emerging turd and then eating it may appear to you to be another run of the mill fetish, but to me it appears to have more in common with indicators of mental illness.

"Sticking an erect penis up a rectum that is daily filled with feces may appear to you to be another run of the mill fetish, but to me it appears to have more in common with indicators of mental illness." See how it can be turned around?

 

[bankside]

"Sticking an erect penis up a rectum that is daily filled with feces may appear to you to be another run of the mill fetish, but to me it appears to have more in common with indicators of mental illness." See how it can be turned around?

No, you're doing what's called "Denying the antecedent."

If anal sex is wrong, then so is eating poo.
Anal sex is not wrong
Therefore eating poo is not wrong.

That argument is just illogical.

Or, even more straightforward, let's just go with "Fallacy of False Composition."

I can think of one reasonable fetish, therefore all fetishes are reasonable.

Nope!

 

[Lube]

No, you're doing what's called "Denying the antecedent."

I just quoted exactly what you said, but replaced a fetish with being gay. It wasn't a logical proof.

 

[nate78]

It's very strange to me that an adult needs to be told that it is not a good idea to eat feces.

 

[Rex]

BTW, I have seen people criticize and show disgust towards people eating boogers or their toe nails. I don't see people getting all upset about that criticism.

But I guess when you throw the sexual element in there people get so touchy about it. lol

Fuck that! It's not fair to call someone out for eating their boogers! Who are we to judge what they like to put in their mouth and eat? It's just so sad that some people can't be more open minding about people who like to pick their nose and eat it. They're humans! Those people aren't any LESS different than us. These people need to be loved and cared for, not shunned by society just because they have one dirty secret that the rest of the world finds "disgusting".

Seriously, I'm really disapointed by your attitude in this thread.

 

[BostonPirate]

lol

Sultan you are a trip

 

[Corny]

so .. what prompted the guy to write you this message? come on, you must have given him some incentive. i never get messages like that .. maybe something about your profile just asks for it ?

 

[Rex]

so .. what prompted the guy to write you this message? come on, you must have given him some incentive. i never get messages like that .. maybe something about your profile just asks for it ?

You're right, in my profile it says:

Attractive 20-something, masculine, easy going and in great shape. Looking for a stable relationship and I enjoy long walks on the beach, working out, meeting people and traveling. First looking for a friendship and if anything grows from there possibly something more.

PS: Oh by the way if you're into getting shitted on your face hit me up. Just throwin' that out there.


To be honest I've gotten lots of messages before but never something that involved a scat fetish. I have had a guy who wanted me to spit on him and pee on him and I actually met up with him and got a great blowjob but didn't go farther than that. I don't think I have the nerve.

 

[Corny]

so much self-praise in one sentence. no wonder.