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Are Bottoms Looked Down On?

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This summer I visited Spain, and what stuck me was the perception of Bottoms within the gay community itself. I seemed to understand that they were looked down on. I drew this conclusion from my own experience (up till now I've only bottomed).

- For starters, tops are seen as those playing 'the man', bottoms are seen as those playing 'the woman' - as if being likened to a woman were somewhat degrading.

- I met a group of friends, and one of them inquired on my sexual role. He asked me: "Are you a top or a bottom?". To which I couldn't quite answer 'cause I was embarressed to admit that I was a bottom. Then another friend chimed in, and he adamantly said: "Of course he's a top!" ('cause I tend to act manly or something), as if it were something positive. And it dawned on me: would this friend be so eager to go and say "He's a bottom" just like he was eager to say "He's a top"? Or would he more likely refrain from making such a comment on my being a bottom?

- The word '¡Pasiva!' (which means bottom, but the gender is femenine) was employed as an insult just like 'FAG' is thrown among straight people. And the curious thing is that the insult came from bottoms themselves and was directed at other bottoms. Tops, on the other hand, don't insult bottoms but they make a point of clarifying over and over that they're not to be linked to bottoms in any way. They are gay but they see themselves as somewhat better, in another orbit.

- When I confessed being a bottom it felt like coming out all over again. I felt like bottoms are looked down on, just like 'gay people' in general might be looked down on by certain straight people. To me it was ridicoulus. We are on the same boat. We should have learnt a lesson on discrimination from our experience.

I'm sure I'm debating an old topic here. It must have been discussed endlessly. But please consider that I'm new to the game, so all of this stuff has really stuck me.
 
i don't know if it is prevalent in the gay community or not but the attitude that you are describing is one that i absolutely despise

i am sure that some gay people maintain it

whether or not it is terribly common is beyond me

i agree with your thinking regarding it though
 
I've met gay guys who look down on "nelly bottoms"

I've met gay guys who look down on guys who arn't "pure" (have slept with/fooled around with women before)

I've met gay guys who look down on "those Bi closet cases"

I even met a gay man (admittedly he was older) who was racist

with how much shit the gay community takes you think it wouldn't behave the way it does but to be utterly honest, people who are bullied generally look for people they can bully to make themselves feel better.

A lot of these people have been hurt physically and emotionally and so they have their little comments to make themselves feel superior.

I find the best way to take the steam out of someone who gives me shit for being bi (and obviously not being "pure") and enjoying bottoming is to own it.

Its all about the confidence, say "I'm a bottom" or "I'm gay" or whatever it is the same way you would say "I'm a badass" and it takes the steam right out of anyone who would be passive aggressive about putting you down.

And for those you decide to mock you, they simply arn't worth the time or effort
 
…I even met a gay man (admittedly he was older) who was racist …
Der.

What you might perceive to be 'racist' now was considered as utterly normal 25 years ago. And your grandchildren will perceive your current thinking as utterly weird.

You can't judge people from other generations by the current fads in social etiquette which have been drummed into you.
 
There is nothing hotter than a masculine guy getting fucked. Especially if he moans.
 
Assume I made the prerequisite "I look down on bottoms while I'm hovering over and plowing into them" joke.

My basic experience is that the more homophobic/ignorant somebody is, the more they'll have this attitude. Those who know a lot of gays rarely seem to feel this way. If there's any anti-bottom prejudice among the gay community where I am, it mainly manifests itself into a thought process that since tops seem to be at a premium around here, bottoms might appear less-than-picky. "You know Fred - he doesn't care if the guy he picks up is useless and abusive so long as he's a top." But I'm just as likely to hear that from bottoms as tops, so I'd say that's more of a side effect than actual "anti-bottom prejudice".

Lex
 
I find that bottoms are looked down upon as well. It's sad. They provide a much needed service! My gratitude to bottoms everywhere!!
 
A lot of bottoms like being treated like whores.

But anyhoo... I always felt like a princess
when I say I am a bottom to guys who want
to top me.
 
so if a top with that attitude fucks a bottom, is it like a pity fuck? such despicable beings, can't he score something better? :confused:

maybe it is like that in spain, i don't know. and yeah maybe the general perception is that bottoms are less manly. but pleeease .. anybody who has a bit of contact with other gays should quickly note that this is just some bullshit. unless you are into the domination stuff etc, why would you want to have sex with someone "not equal"?
that's the same b/s like "guys with big dicks need to be tops" :roll:
 
But anyhoo... I always felt like a princess
when I say I am a bottom to guys who want
to top me.

thanks, no I picture you with a little crown and glitter in your hair ;)
 
Lex. I say service because I can't think of a better fitting word. They do something that the other half of the gay population looks for... They don't have to do it. They don't receive the proper gratitude for doing it. They shouldn't be looked down upon for it but they are... It's like the service industry.
 
First of all why would a stranger ask you your position preference? It takes a real man to take a hard dick up his ass.
 
I think it is somehow tied to our genetic disposition and primal memories. It is wrong to "look-down" on someone who happens to bottom in a relationship but, human nature or animal nature being what it is, is the best way I can explain this action.
 
without bottoms, all tops would have to fuck are fleshjacks.
 
This summer I visited Spain, and what stuck me was the perception of Bottoms within the gay community itself. I seemed to understand that they were looked down on. I drew this conclusion from my own experience (up till now I've only bottomed).

- For starters, tops are seen as those playing 'the man', bottoms are seen as those playing 'the woman' - as if being likened to a woman were somewhat degrading.

- I met a group of friends, and one of them inquired on my sexual role. He asked me: "Are you a top or a bottom?". To which I couldn't quite answer 'cause I was embarressed to admit that I was a bottom. Then another friend chimed in, and he adamantly said: "Of course he's a top!" ('cause I tend to act manly or something), as if it were something positive. And it dawned on me: would this friend be so eager to go and say "He's a bottom" just like he was eager to say "He's a top"? Or would he more likely refrain from making such a comment on my being a bottom?

- The word '¡Pasiva!' (which means bottom, but the gender is femenine) was employed as an insult just like 'FAG' is thrown among straight people. And the curious thing is that the insult came from bottoms themselves and was directed at other bottoms. Tops, on the other hand, don't insult bottoms but they make a point of clarifying over and over that they're not to be linked to bottoms in any way. They are gay but they see themselves as somewhat better, in another orbit.

- When I confessed being a bottom it felt like coming out all over again. I felt like bottoms are looked down on, just like 'gay people' in general might be looked down on by certain straight people. To me it was ridicoulus. We are on the same boat. We should have learnt a lesson on discrimination from our experience.

I'm sure I'm debating an old topic here. It must have been discussed endlessly. But please consider that I'm new to the game, so all of this stuff has really stuck me.

welcome ta da world

enjoy da tour
 
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