Attention Are spankings for kids obsolete nowadays?

[Peloso]

I'll never say no to a good spanking.

 

[ChristianGianni]

Sybil's mom was too creative for a mere spanking.

I watched this movie a couple of years ago, made me feel sick, Sally Field was amazing in it though.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Sybil won several Emmys and a Peabody Award.

It was also the first time most Americans ever heard of Multiple Personality Disorder. Unfortunately, much like transgenderism, it fed an inaccurate perception of it being more common than it actually is.

For Sally Field, it helped her escape a decade of light comedy roles which she more or less found herself locked into from her youth and from the breakout success of The Flying Nun.

Her portrayal in '77 saw her begin to land dramatic roles like Norma Rae in '79 and helped widen her opportunities, even though they still included television and comedy.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Right.

The comma, or lack thereof, is important. He didn't say, "They should be, right?"

So, agreed.

 

[cabinfever]

If I were in that position I would not be inclined to spank my children BUT if, for instance, they ran into the street and I tried everything else first to make them stop I would spank them as a last resort if it meant saving their lives.

 

[eddielee]

I was against it for a few years, but now I think it would do some good.

 

[Reischfleger]

Spanking is a disciplinary technique that does more harm than good, aggressive behavior will only generate more negative behaviors in a child

 

[rareboy]

This. The cycle of physical abuse has to stop.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Controlled discipline is not correctly categorized as aggression, nor is it abuse when conducted appropriately. And implying it is the source of violence in society is both unproven and untrue. Violence arises the world over from individuals who never experienced physical discipline. It does so because violent behavior is a natural expression of a frustrated individual, and it needs no teacher to make the example, nor childhood wrong to be reacting against.

Just as importantly, the vast majority of those raised with corporal punishment did not become violent members of society, for CENTURIES!

When control is exerted physically, it is still control.

Society does live with accepted controls, codes, and laws.

If corporal punishment is meted out as the extreme enforcement of that control, it is still exerted as a method of control, not aggression.

Aggression: hostile or violent behavior or attitudes toward another; readiness to attack or confront.

But, as in many definitions, there is a degree of connotative meaning implied or inferred. Parenting is not a hostile act. Confrontation of misbehavior is not considered conftontation in the same taboo sense as a mugging or verbal attack.

Just as Ukraine isn't considered to be an aggressor in the current war, a parent is not rightly deemed aggressive when confronting misbehavior of children. That behavior may range anywhere from mild disrespect and disobedience, to criminal acts, to unsafe acts.

Making a taboo against physical enforcement of rules is tantamount to equating all persons in a society and in a family. There is no such equality. Pretending there is leaves parents, schools, and law enforcement with no solution when lesser measures fail. It also presumes conduct is never severe enough to require it, which is fallacious.

 

[Kahaih]

"Sometimes a little bitch needs to learn when to shut up."

" They brought it upon themselves."

Is that it?

No.

I don't care how many words anyone wants to type to the contrary:

Domestic violence is domestic violence.

A hostile environment is a hostile environment.

 

[pigface]

"Sometimes a little bitch needs to learn when to shut up."

" They brought it upon themselves."

Is that it?

No.

I don't care how many words anyone wants to type to the contrary:

Domestic violence is domestic violence.

A hostile environment is a hostile environment.

This doesn't make any sense or seem to fit with what is being discussed. Please rephrase so we get what you're trying to put across.

 

[rareboy]

This doesn't make any sense or seem to fit with what is being discussed. Please rephrase so we get what you're trying to put across.

The correlation is pretty clear.

Spanking in anger is likely one of the foundational causes of later domestic violence because it normalizes hitting people you apparently love.

What is the difference between a man hitting his kid to correct behaviour or hitting his wife to do the same.

 

[pigface]

"What is the difference between a man hitting his kid to correct behaviour or hitting his wife to do the same."

Is that a real question, or are you paraphrasing the other post for effect?

 

[NotHardUp1]

The problem lies in amplifying the framing of corporal punishishment, including qualifying it as striking in anger.

Although my earlier statement still holds true -- that millions and billions of humans have experienced corporal punishment without becoming domestic abusers when reaching adulthood -- the depiction of a spouse being struck is quite different than the spanking of a child.

A wife is an equal in the marriage in Western societies. She is not a subordinate, nor is she a child who is being taught the importance of obeying laws, following instructions to ensure safety, or acknowleding adult and parental authority. The hierarchy of adults over children is not inherently abusive, nor is it wrong to reinforce is when challenged or rejected.

Conflating beating or slapping a woman versus spanking a child as part of a progressive discipline method is intentional ignorance of reality. It is tantamount to calling a defensive shooting murder when it is not. The taking of a life in self-defense is a legal action and allowed by society. Illegal taking of a (human) life is murder. The same is true for disciplinary corporal punishment versus an attack against an adult.

That doesn't make any and all striking of a minor allowable as discipline, but it also doesn't make all discipline into abuse. Blurring the two is propaganda, pure and simple.

 

[cabinfever]

My mother would use a wooden spoon on me and one of my other brothers and often break it and then get mad at us for breaking it and grab something else.

The thing is that the spankings were nothing compared to the other things she did. She should have been in prison or locked up in a criminally insane psych ward.

 

[rareboy]

"What is the difference between a man hitting his kid to correct behaviour or hitting his wife to do the same."

Is that a real question, or are you paraphrasing the other post for effect?

You should talk to some of the guys who slap their wives around.

 

[pigface]

A woman, a dog, and the walnut tree, The more you beat them, the better they be.

 

[backagain]

I hope you are kidding.

 

[pigface]

I hope you are kidding.

It's a saying that in various forms (ass for dog (ass=donkey, not an American euphemism for arse)) dates back 2500 years to Greek writings, but keeps coming up in various retellings.

 

[Kahaih]

A woman, a dog, and the walnut tree, The more you beat them, the better they be.

Is it safe to assume that 'walnut tree' is a euphemism for throbbing boner?