Are we allowed to keep a baby if we found it at our door step?

[Keeland]

A baby what?

 

[Vannie]

Legally, you can keep the baby if you can prove you are lactating.

 

[zombiekiller]

No you cannot keep because
anyone can make up a story "they found" it but what if someone stole the baby ?

Um, just because one is a doctor doesn't mean one knows how to treat you of male pattern baldness. Probably the most common mistake people make is just because one is xyz then it means one knows everything about xyz, no matter how wide the field is.

I was a state trooper, so I spent most of my time on the interstates. Anytime I ran into anything remotely close to a minor being involved, I called child services and the local police departments and let them take over.

 

[LittleDove]

Anytime I ran into anything remotely close to a minor being involved, I called child services and the local police departments and let them take over.

Haven't you just indirectly answered your own question here?

Babies aren't finders-keepers material. You seem to be assuming that the one who abandoned the baby is the parent, when that wouldn't necessarily be the case. Suppose the baby had been snatched from its parents. You don't think they'd want it returned?

 

[zombiekiller]

Haven't you just indirectly answered your own question here?

Babies aren't finders-keepers material. You seem to be assuming that the one who abandoned the baby is the parent, when that wouldn't necessarily be the case. Suppose the baby had been snatched from its parents. You don't think they'd want it returned?

I guess my question was suppose to be suppose we know the parent(s) abandoned the baby. Does anyone know how hard or easy it is to try to adopt this baby? Like, what do we have to prove to the courts?

And no, I haven't found any baby at my door step. Considering my boyfriend is getting closer and closer to getting his degree and start his own career... I guess I'm starting to plan way ahead.

 

[Willie Boy]

Why do I have to fight the court to adopt the baby I found?

Why is it that someone like that bitch that threw away Baby Willow can just pop out baby after baby but I have to jump through hoops to get a baby?

Because, unless you are the biological parent of the child you have no rights/responsibilities to it until authorized by the court. First priority goes to biological relatives willing and able to care for the child. If none can be found others can petition to become legal guardian/parent. It isn't about fighting the court for custody as it is attempting to do what's best for the child. Court decisions aren't always perfect, but they do try to do what's right.

 

[Willie Boy]

Nah not insane.
Just ask questions without thinking through like me

You do realize he didn't say insane but inane. There is a difference. Apparently you don't even think through the answers you post either.

 

[NotHardUp1]

And no, I haven't found any baby at my door step. Considering my boyfriend is getting closer and closer to getting his degree and start his own career... I guess I'm starting to plan way ahead.

So, he's gonna start his career with paternity leave? As nice as it might be to become parents, it might well put strain on your relationship due to the omnipresent obligation to care for the child. If anything goes awry in your relationship, then YOU or HE must figure out how to care for a child and work.

As for finder's keepers, that just silly. You can be at an auction, pay $10,000 for a painting, and later find out it was stolen. You get to give up the painting and it's on you to get the $10,000 back. It's not as simple as "is SHOULD be like . . . "

And calling RB a stalker was out of line. He didn't slur you, but cited something relevant you had posted in Hot Topics, not in a no-flame zone, not that it was a flame. You two may not get along, but he isn't a stalker.

 

[zombiekiller]

^^ The stalker thing was a joke. I just find it interesting that he remembers very specific details about what I've said in the past... even the distant past. Every time I see him reply to me, I always expect one of these things:

(1) Put a negative spin on my words and make the worst possible interpretation

(2) Bring up something from a long time ago, like what he just did in this thread

(3) Make a snide comment on my relationship with my boyfriend, again with the worst possible interpretation

(4) Accuse me of lying

(5) Say something like "don't you know? you're an engineer"

In fact, I don't recall him ever say anything positive to me. Every time I see his name either in my thread or quoting me, it's something negative that probably fits in one of the 5 things I said above.

That said, I know I said I was joking with the stalker thing, but there is some truth to it. I lost that puppy a year ago. To this day, I still feel sad every time I think about that dog. What ever happened to him? I looked for weeks. Called every animal shelter around there. I even posted a bunch of posters with my number around that area. Nothing.

He's like that SOB in your life that always points out your faults and always looking for that "A HA!" moment to nitpick what you've said.

 

[Telstra]

^^ The stalker thing was a joke. I just find it interesting that he remembers very specific details about what I've said in the past... even the distant past. Every time I see him reply to me, I always expect one of these things:

(1) Put a negative spin on my words and make the worst possible interpretation

(2) Bring up something from a long time ago, like what he just did in this thread

(3) Make a snide comment on my relationship with my boyfriend, again with the worst possible interpretation

(4) Accuse me of lying

(5) Say something like "don't you know? you're an engineer"

In fact, I don't recall him ever say anything positive to me. Every time I see his name either in my thread or quoting me, it's something negative that probably fits in one of the 5 things I said above.

That said, I know I said I was joking with the stalker thing, but there is some truth to it. I lost that puppy a year ago. To this day, I still feel sad every time I think about that dog. What ever happened to him? I looked for weeks. Called every animal shelter around there. I even posted a bunch of posters with my number around that area. Nothing.

He's like that SOB in your life that always points out your faults and always looking for that "A HA!" moment to nitpick what you've said.

rareboy is not a stalker but hardup is because he knows so much of you and me ...

 

[zombiekiller]

Oh yeah, you got one thing wrong. You said us two do not get along. The reality is he doesn't get along with me. It's a strictly one way thing. I don't follow him around and troll him. Easy way to verify this is try to find a post of mine criticizing him or something he's said in his own thread. You will very quickly find that it's been all him following me around and troll me.

 

[Willie Boy]

I guess my question was suppose to be suppose we know the parent(s) abandoned the baby. Does anyone know how hard or easy it is to try to adopt this baby? Like, what do we have to prove to the courts?

First and foremost you have to prove that you can take care of the child, physically, emotionally and mentally. You have to be capable of providing a safe environment for the child to live in, with clean water and decent food. You need to provide an environment where the child will be able to grow, where the child can learn, in relative safety. You have to prove that the child wont be abused, physically or emotionally. You need to have money to pay the bills, which according to previous posts you likely have. Based on the information you previously posted here, mental and emotional stability is inconclusive.

As you mentioned you boyfriend is getting closer to completing school and getting his degree I would suggest waiting. Once he starts his career he'll be too busy to provide much help in caring for the child, as has already been suggested, and you could find issues arising between the two of you. This is something any agency might consider, and you will want to find a reputable adoption/foster agency to work with, for the welfare of the child. But that's what it all boils down to, the welfare of the child that you may bring into your lives. You both need to be ready to put your own desires/lives on hold to do what is best for your child, that is what being a parent is all about, caring for and loving your kid(s). Nothing else matters in comparison. There are plenty of assholes out there who don't have a fucking clue, and the children suffer for it.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Oh yeah, you got one thing wrong. You said us two do not get along. The reality is he doesn't get along with me. It's a strictly one way thing. I don't follow him around and troll him. Easy way to verify this is try to find a post of mine criticizing him or something he's said in his own thread. You will very quickly find that it's been all him following me around and troll me.

I stand by my perception. I have seen the two of you go out of your way to snipe the other's threads. So, I concede you are at least partially correct in saying he finds you to post negatively as you have him.

But no one is a stalker by Telly's weak reckoning. Simply remembering details is not a sign of obsession or preoccupation, but merely a detailed memory for debate.

 

[zombiekiller]

I stand by my perception. I have seen the two of you go out of your way to snipe the other's threads. So, I concede you are at least partially correct in saying he finds you to post negatively as you have him.

But no one is a stalker by Telly's weak reckoning. Simply remembering details is not a sign of obsession or preoccupation, but merely a detailed memory for debate.

I don't remember ever doing it to him. I respond to him after he's stalked my threads. But I don't remember ever going after him in his own threads. Frankly, I don't have time for that.

It's like you telling both people to stop fighting even though only 1 is doing the punching.

 

[rareboy]

Oh get the fuck over yourself.

You post thread after thread on JUB concerning just about every inane event in your personal and work life. Over the years you've regaled us with story after story...often with an hilarious lack of good judgement or respect for privacy of your bf's, your family, your neighbours or your co-workers.

You are like Grimshaw...who somehow got it into his head that because I would respond to all of his threads that I was stalking him.

And none of these threads about your life stands alone. You weave us such an incredibly vivid and rich tapestry of your life that we can't help but remember events like the trouble with your ex-boyfriend and the phone from years past, the tortured tale of buying a house...or, in this case...losing your boyfriend's dog.

And now.....apparently without any self-questioning.......you seem to be defending the idea that there should be a finder's keepers rule for babies left on your doorstep. I see that at least one or two others were as completely baffled, but it seems inconceivable that an ex-policeman would even ponder this...although it might explain why you left policing for civil engineering.

And while you apparently want to be a parent.....you are pretty much admitting that you don't want to put in any of the hard work to become one.

I don't 'dislike' you or even care one way or the other much....but as I've commented before, it seems that sometimes you are in need of a reality check to your self-absorbed narcissism. Left unchecked, I suspect that it would do great harm to you and others around you. At least having some of your more ill thought out, self-centred precepts challenged will hopefully provoke you to greater introspection and re-positioning your frame of reference to first asking yourself 'what is in the best interest of the other person' rather than always only thinking about what is best for you.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I stand by my perception. I have seen the two of you go out of your way to snipe the other's threads. So, I concede you are at least partially correct in saying he finds you to post negatively as you have him.

But no one is a stalker by Telly's weak reckoning. Simply remembering details is not a sign of obsession or preoccupation, but merely a detailed memory for debate.

Man I totally agree with your memory point. I wish I didn't remember some of the shit I read on here. Some times you just remember the pointless stuff that has no real relevance to your own life.

 

[lambdaboy]

No and if you find anything valuable on the street a diamond, gold a large sum of money by law you bring it to the local police station they give you get a receipt and if no one claims it normally in 90 days it is yours. It is stealing as opposed to Kidnap LOL

 

[ShadowCat]

I'm sorry the only thing I am thinking of is the 3 stooges I just can't help it.

 

[Willie Boy]

I'm sorry the only thing I am thinking of is the 3 stooges I just can't help it.

Surprisingly (OK, not really) that fits the source.

 

[Kulindahr]

Given that we live under a system where the de facto but unstated position of the government is that we are all its property -- especially babies! -- and that the government doesn't like to let you do anything without getting money out of you, the short answer is "No".