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Are we doomed to always have an underclass group of people?

While we live in large scale societies this will always be the case, as the division of labour always lead to hierarchy.

It is not to say however that this is a natural state for humans - many hunter gather groups have flat societies, as do slightly larger scale groups such as the Tsimihety (probably loads more, but they are the first that comes to mind thanks to Graeber).
 
Why the poor is still poor?
Maybe because they are not educated enough to look after themselves in terms basic smart life skills ... and so on.
 
Unbelievable that one person on here makes racist comments. There will always be the rich the middle class and the poor. What is important is that when the rich want there shoes shined, a coffee or people working low paying jobs in their community there has to be housing and help for them and a decent higher living wage. I am reminded of my many visits to Key West In Florida where the majority of waiters and other help staff have to live with many room mates to live. Yes there will be people who simply do not want to work the majority of the poorer work there A's off
 
Why the poor is still poor?
Maybe because they are not educated enough to look after themselves in terms basic smart life skills ...
Yes and also because they produce too many babies they have absolutely no way of feeding without appealing for sponsorship from the sentimental middle-classes from other continents.

Another method is to pay people-smugglers to take their unaccompanied children to Europe and appeal to the emotional people there and get immediate free aid, food, housing and healthcare there.


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Why the poor is still poor?
Maybe because they are not educated enough to look after themselves in terms basic smart life skills ... and so on.

We encourage people to get a high school diploma here in the States, for those who just ride the system and do the minimum they get this diploma which in effect says "I was there". I may as well wear a t shirt that says "I was at Wally World".
This diploma does not mean that they will know anything beyond basic math and how to read, perhaps on a 5th grade level.

Of course some excel, they go on to college and become professionals or businessmen, but far to many, dare I say the majority probably can not balance a check book.

I worked with a young man who was nearing the end of his 4 years of obtaining a degree, he was going into graphic design as I recall. He was shipping something and asked me how to spell "read", I asked him which read he wanted, he said as in I will read the book, he didn't know if it was reed or read.

My spelling sucks, but it doesn't suck like that. My point is that though that I am sure that this young man will make a modest living. He was not one to apply himself, he had no intellectual curiosity. Both he and another guy who was in his 50's had told me that they could not read a tape measure. I think that I learned how to read a ruler back in perhaps the 4th grade.
How could one NOT know how to do it?

How can you cook anything without knowing how fractions work? How can one not have any interest in knowing how they work?

I was at a hospital the other day, a very nice young lady was taking information, suddenly she said " my hbo is down", she asked those near her if their hbo was working, all said that theirs was down as well, then she said "oh, it's back" and finished filling out the required fields, I asked what hbo stood for (this was not a test of her knowledge, the term hbo provoked my mind) she said that she didn't know, that she had worked there 4 years and no one ever found out or asked, that's just "what we call "it".

For reasons that are above my pay grade to explain we have a class of people with no curiosity, they lack in many areas of knowledge and take no shame in it, they go though the motions of life and don't care to know.

This is one reason why we have an underclass, people who just have no drive.
 
I say that all those who make grandiose, sanctimonious statements should prove their bona fides by doing what they say.
I say that anyone who has a motor car and an unused bed in their house has no right to condemn others.

And maybe those who have never actually been poor should not speak or pretend to know what it is like being poor and why.
 
While we live in large scale societies this will always be the case, as the division of labour always lead to hierarchy.

It is not to say however that this is a natural state for humans - many hunter gather groups have flat societies, as do slightly larger scale groups such as the Tsimihety (probably loads more, but they are the first that comes to mind thanks to Graeber).

That there have been some less hierarchical societies could mean that egalitarianism is the natural state for humans. Or it could mean that there is no natural state for humans. Or, as I prefer, that egalitarians have employed strategies against our natural state.
 
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_tey nos we?_

anyway

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! ten again maybes a apees human go fa best wookins corpseee !
_yea wooks a gurds dead ins a 10 millions car tak pic ans enta fa free trip a miami coffin fa 2week alls includees_
only folkee dead so quiet time
" but a great apeee 1stwees pubwix getta go OOOOOOOOOH ans a discuss "

anyway

have ans a nottees real wanna tink at bit again

tinku

now a weathur wit dick
!tinksya geroge!
 
You could redistribute all of the wealth (except of the graft money for the guys doing the redistributing), just like the communists who did in the 20th century, to the tune of 100+ million dead. And within one (maybe two) year, the money will have redistributed itself between the haves and the have nots.

You will always have the underclass.
 
You could redistribute all of the wealth (except of the graft money for the guys doing the redistributing), just like the communists who did in the 20th century, to the tune of 100+ million dead. And within one (maybe two) year, the money will have redistributed itself between the haves and the have nots.

You will always have the underclass.

ans wot a is means under class?
_suck up shit mak a ovar class?_
wot ovar class?
_ooh nooooooo_
"wot a wealth ?"
-ooh^-
!wot a you?!
ans so ons

wonda sheep use nife fork fa grass?

tinku
 
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@pat;
actually Jesus said that as recorded in the Gospel Of St. Matthew.
The Implication was that you could feed, cloth and help them at any time, not ignore them.
 
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