Are you a gay activist?

[hunky]

Do you fight for the gay rights in general or are just kind of passive, want people to do it for you?

 

[Christopherb36]

Yes...I attend political events, I have gone to the parties, written the checks, held the signs...

 

[tx_doc]

Not as much as when I was younger. I used to be a member of Act Up some 15 years ago. I'm still very politically motivated but not necessarily for only gay rights.

 

[Croynan]

I actually fight against gay marriages, gay adoption, and stuff like that. Im all for traditional families and old fashioned lifestyles. I think the liberal movement is what is destroying our country. But I do believe gay people have the right to be gay without being harrassed, ridiculed, or be subjected to violence. If you want to be gay, great.....just be gay behind closed doors like the rest of us. Exposing your alternative lifestyle to children or forcing it upon others is just not right. I know most people on this board won't agree with me and Im not asking anyone too. It's just how I feel.

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A student? All that education and learning and for what? Ideas or beliefs one can have - but give them room to breathe. Sounds very angry to me, and i am not totally sure all of it is directed where you think it is. Sad.

if an offense has been committed, i apologize. you are free to ask this posting to be removed. you have my permission.

just a local village idiot who thinks the mind is capable of so much more.

eM.

and what per say has the conservative movement accomplished these last 5 years.?

 

[The_Reaper]

I'm very vocal, especially when the issue is raised....

But I've never joined a group or protested in favour of gay rights...Although, I have written letters to government officials...

 

[dw8038r2]

Well, if benefits for same-sex partners is going to increase the prices I pay for things, then I'm not in favor. Nor for opposite-sex partners. As a single person, why should I pay more so that others can get benefits they don't work for.

I agree with Surfboy--do whatever you want to do, but keep it your business and don't expect me to help pay for it.

 

[sb]

faggots that fight against the rights of other gay men make me sick. just because you hate yourself, you shouldn't expect others to.

I'm not a gay activist but I wouldn't mind doing more... I've marched in parades and I vote for parties which will most benefit gay men but I could be doing heaps more.

 

[DarkNeko]

Why would a homosexual fight against homosexual rights? Everyone should have the oppurtunity to marry who they love and start a family.

 

[Croynan]

Thats the problem. There is no conservative movement, they're too busy getting run over by the liberals. Hence the crap hole our country has become.

Too many people speaking their mind, doing what they want, when they want. Everyone is challenging society's morals and values and doing their own thing. There is no conformity or order anymore. Im not a history major, shoot, I haven't even picked a major yet - but just from hs history I've learned this country has steadily gone down hill since the 50s.

Im all for alternative lifestyles because I live one - I just dont think forcing it upon or exposing it to innocent minds is right. If you want to do something that is taboo in the eyes of society, do it in your home in private, not in front of some young family visiting Disney for the first time.

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Unless i am mistaken, you have just made a categorical statement with the use of the word "No" - having thus done so, it might be interesting to see you try and prove that statement.

As long as you have not declared a Major while in Jr. College and or University, might I suggest a few classes in Political Science and or Government.

And if there is No Conservative Movement then I think you had better inform William F. Buckley Jr. and Andrew Sullivan. No only that but Karl Rove and Dick Cheyney might be interested in that news also.

Your comments about not forcing and or exposing the issue of alternate life styles on others, may have some validity there depending upon the on the individuals involved. And certainly you are entitled to your opinion - after all you are a college student are you not?

How interesting you use the phrase "taboo in the eyes of society" - as it seems you are extending that concept to an entire society and i truly do not see how you can do that with the diversity that exists in American Society. There may be some societies in the Middle East and Africa where such a statement might apply, but how you can assert the use of such a phrase to all of American Society I find very difficult to understand. I certainly would be most interested it what might happen should you make such a statement in any and or all of your college classes - and i am including all subject levels taught in a University. If you have a writing and or and English class, see how a statement such as yours would do in an open class discussion.

And if you are so closed minded to ideas that are totally different then yours, then it must prove most difficult to be on a college and or university campus where the free flow of ideas and thoughts are basic to the very existence of these institutions. Just out of curiousity what classes do you think should and should not be offered on the college or university? Your ideas on this issue might be interesting to share with the rest of society - liberal and or conservative.

Think as you may, but applying your thoughts to everyone else as a whole - i. e. a society, I think is treading on thin ice. The last two persons that I can think of that tried to do that - Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin - I believe their concepts did not go over so well with the masses within their societies.

I am grateful that the concept of "Freedom of Speech" is considered part of the so called Liberal Movement as well as the Conservative Movement - for with out either, this exchange of ideas would not be taking place.

eM.

 

[Elworth]

Surfboy, Being gay does not necessarily prevent a person from having morals. That is simply a stereotype applied to us by those who are repulsed by homosexuals.

Gays and lesbians come in every size, shape, color, class, and possible form you could think of. They are between 1 and 10% of every part of society, and they aren't homosexual because they want to impose their "immoral" or "deviant" behavior on everyone else. They simply want recognition for the love of their significant other, in the form of benefits such as marriage and legal entitlement. There are over 1,000 benefits that come with a marriage, and that is documented by a federal agency (I don't remember which one).

Every time you tell yourself that you don't deserve the same rights as everyone else, conservatives score another victory. You need to realize that this isn't a matter of revealing what is going on in our private lives. This is a matter of them not barging into our private lives, and telling us what we can and can't do. We are human beings, the same as everyone else, hence the Human Rights Campaign.

I personally have started donating, and hope to start volunteering in my free time. I'm hoping I can make a difference.

Nate

EDIT: Gays have nothing to do with the downfall of marriage. Straight people are doing that on their own... They are just pointing at us as scapegoats...

 

[Croynan]

good lord...

When I said there was no conservative movement, I was being sarcastic because of how much this country has gone down the crapper. Thanks for comparing me to Hitler for being unhappy with the downfall of the traditional family. Great comparison.
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I was and am not comparing you to Hitler, and if this is the impression you have received, then i do aplogize for that. In no way was that my intent.

My apologies. eM.

should you wish me to have my posting removed, please let me know so asap, and i shall take care of the matter immediately. it would of course entail removing your posting so that none of the "offending material" appears.

eM.

Random thought - it is rather sad that you did not get a chance to live and see American Society during the 1000 days of John F. Kennedy. How different those times were as compared to the last 5 years of Conservative Republican so called "leadership"

John Fitzgerald Kennedy Democratic 1961–63 Lyndon B. Johnson
Lyndon Baines Johnson Democratic 1963–69

(no Vice President, 1963–65)
Hubert H. Humphrey, 1965–69

Richard Milhous Nixon Republican 1969–74

Spiro T. Agnew, 1969–73
(no Vice President, Oct. 10, 1973–Dec. 6, 1973)
Gerald R. Ford, 1973–74

Gerald Rudolph Ford Republican 1974–77

(no Vice President, Aug. 9, 1974–Dec. 19, 1974)
Nelson A. Rockefeller, 1974–77

Jimmy Carter Democratic 1977–81 Walter F. Mondale
Ronald Wilson Reagan Republican 1981–89 George H. W. Bush
George Herbert Walker Bush Republican 1989–93 J. Danforth Quayle
Bill Clinton Democratic 1993–2001 Albert Gore, Jr.
George Walker Bush Republican 2001– Dick Cheney

 

[teh_nathan]

Politically, yes. Would I join an activist group? No.

Do you fight for the gay rights in general or are just kind of passive, want people to do it for you?