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Are you a liberal educated elitist?

heir-to-the-wind said:
As gay men, we tend to be better educated and to have more discretionary income than the white male voters who ardently support Trump who speaks their sixth-grade level language.
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I'm not sure I'd hang my hat on the veracity of that supposed demographic. That is likely more true of the out gay, and a correlation of the type of gay in our society who feels he can afford to be out. The demographic you describe is also more likely to be urban, less likely to be a member of a religious community, and probably more likely to be white.

However, I doubt the currency of that demographic as truly representative of gay men in America. Those from the lower social classes undoubtedly see exactly the same incidence of homosexuality, but offer them less place to be. So, I'd posit that the elite are simply the tip of the iceberg and the most vocal segment of gay American men. They are certainly over represented in gay rights organizations, which helps explain our impresion as as culture of gay men.

Go to a very busy dance club in any city of size. You'll find a significantly higher number of club boys who certainly won't qualify as intellectual, won't be elitists, and will often represent a much larger swath of minorities mixed in.

Go to rural America and find where the gays are still closeted and you won't find that intellectualism or even leftist politics.

Go to Craigslist . . . and weep. :lol:
 
Oh, and to answer the question, I was educated with a liberal arts bias, in both state universities and a private religious college, and would consider myself a pro-education liberal, but not an elitist. Many of my friends are poor, and I shop at thrift stores, and I eschew political institutions that are anti-democratic and usurp the people's voice in the process. I am strongly a proponent of a third party in the mix, albeit God help us from the likes of the Tea Party.
 
It's interesting how socially acceptable it is to mock people who live, or have lived in a trailer, and make wild accusations and assumptions about their political beliefs and their intelligence.
So much for that bullshit about not judging people eh?
 
You do have to take into account the fact that an education does not make one an intellectual, prime examples being Donald Trump and George W. Bush. Of course they are not liberally educated, but many with their education(s) are intellectuals.

There is a difference between intelligence and education.
 
SaskGuy said:
It's interesting how socially acceptable it is to mock people who live, or have lived in a trailer, and make wild accusations and assumptions about their political beliefs and their intelligence.
So much for that bullshit about not judging people eh?
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I think that's the elitist bit.
 
I think the context in point was people disdaining the poor who live in trailers thanks to the skewed capitalism.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
I think the context in point was people disdaining the poor who live in trailers thanks to the skewed capitalism.
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I can tell you first hand that many of my neighbors are small business owners of such things as garages, landscaping, roofing and contracting companies to name a few.
Then there are those of us who are retired, though we are in the minority.

The park that I live in sells used trailers for a starting price of about $4000. They sell new double wide's for $54,000. Many of us look at the roof over our head as just that, a warm, dry, comfortable place to be and I can speak for myself when I say that I feel fortunate daily to have such a place.

Many I speak with see automobiles the same as they see washing machines, as an appliance.

I found that after the beating that I took in the Bush years culminating with the great recession that this was the most practical place to land. I was able to pay cash for a three bedroom, 800 square foot place to live. it had been revamped with new windows, furnace, plumbing and a water heater.

I have added my own touches such as remodeling the kitchen, building a deck, upgrading the carpeting etc. and after 5 years I am into it for about $6500., most of which I could easily recoup and perhaps even make a profit.

Living here allows me to place into savings on average about $300. per month from our social security income and live comfortably while we do it.

I always said I would not be house poor as some of my relatives who said that they can't afford to retire.
 
I suppose I am an elitist--in the sense that I view the educated and intellectual as the "worthy" elite. I don't have much issue looking down upon those who fail to educate themselves, especially those who are afraid to do so. While in a certain sense it's true that the "temporarily inconvenienced (but otherwise erudite) millionaires" have little voice, I place them in a much higher category than the profoundly ignorant hoi-polloi of whatever socioeconomic class.
 
peeonme said:
I can tell you first hand that many of my neighbors are small business owners of such things as garages, landscaping, roofing and contracting companies to name a few.
Then there are those of us who are retired, though we are in the minority.

The park that I live in sells used trailers for a starting price of about $4000. They sell new double wide's for $54,000. Many of us look at the roof over our head as just that, a warm, dry, comfortable place to be and I can speak for myself when I say that I feel fortunate daily to have such a place.

Many I speak with see automobiles the same as they see washing machines, as an appliance.

I found that after the beating that I took in the Bush years culminating with the great recession that this was the most practical place to land. I was able to pay cash for a three bedroom, 800 square foot place to live. it had been revamped with new windows, furnace, plumbing and a water heater.

I have added my own touches such as remodeling the kitchen, building a deck, upgrading the carpeting etc. and after 5 years I am into it for about $6500., most of which I could easily recoup and perhaps even make a profit.

Living here allows me to place into savings on average about $300. per month from our social security income and live comfortably while we do it.

I always said I would not be house poor as some of my relatives who said that they can't afford to retire.
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I come from a town where a very average house that's the same size costs half a million or more (and it keeps growing by the day).
Unlike yourself, people lose sight of the core purpose of things like shelter and transport.
 
Yes, and as one I've noticed that level of educational attainment appears inversely correlated with likelihood of supporting the orange lunatic.
 
Man, there are a butt load of elitists on this site. Don't believe what they post here, just check out their other posts everywhere else.
 
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