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Are You Getting a Flu Shot This Year?

"Avoiding flu shots is a no-brainer. Who would want ethylene glycol, phenol, formaldehyde, aluminum and mercury..many physicians believe flu vaccines are largely responsible for the increase in Alzheimer's" Joseph Mercola, D.O.
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I've never even heard of that. There is NO GOOD SCIENTIFIC evidence to support such a claim. At least there is minimal weak evidence of immunizations increasing the incidecne of autism but even that is FAR from convincing.

The answer to the original question is yes, I'm getting one.

Check out http://www.emedicinehealth.com/flu_in_adults/page9_em.htm

For information about who should and shouldn't get one.
 
I get one every year. I am stuck in a pressurized metal tube (airplane) that is full of sick people all day long.
 
jockboy01 said:
I've never even heard of that. There is NO GOOD SCIENTIFIC evidence to support such a claim.
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Actually this has bee a very hot button issue lately... I'm surprised you haven't. It has been a growing concern for several years....

The main concern is the level of mercury used in the preservation of all vaccines. it is one reason a lot of parents are refusing to give their kids all those vaccination shots they want you to have as a baby, due to the increased autism rates. Their are a growing number in the medical community taking this opinion as well.

The pharmaceutical company's are doing everything in their power to stop people from knowing about vaccine's harms.... why wouldn't they, they make billions every year off of the flu vaccine alone.

But then again some of you guys will just think I'm a conspiracy junkie not pay attention, but that's ok. More and more people are realizing that most American food is poison and they are moving to fully organic foods, and getting off of the preservative and chemical filled foods that is pushed on us.

As before.... just my $.02
Take it or leave it!


Joshua
 
Check out the CDC comments on mercury before you say what a hot topic it is... http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/concerns/thimerosal.htm

Which states... "No harmful effects have been reported from thimerosal at doses used in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site."

As it relates to autism... I mentioned that... it's not new.
 
I hope I get the flu.

I'll loose 10-15lbs no problem.
 
I see you conveniently left out the next line:

"However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service (PHS) agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure."

The problem is that especially when dealing with government agencies, where pharmaceutical lobbyists have sway, and can find ways to lean test results in their favor. You end up with gray area comments like the one you quoted, and I continued. They say it is safe in one sentence, then tell you "oh but as a precautionary..." it goes on to say that the flu vaccine in one of the few that still use it!

Anyway my whole point here is that there are natural alternatives for combating flu. Simplest.... eat and apple or an orange every day.... boost your natural defenses.

I have never had the flu, haven't been really sick in 10 years or more... a friend of mine takes the flu shot every year, eats at McDonald's and other fast food daily. and is sick all of the time.....


God gave us everything we need in this world!

Joshua
 
Ooo, sweetie, mono is a whole different monster. :eek:
 
Yeah, mono sucks. Had that last year... ugh!

And no, I didn't conveniently pick and choose lines to leave out. I referenced the article I was talking about at least. So don't go lecturing me on how I'm picking and choosing. At least I give you the reference. And the part you quoted does NOT contradict what I said. They are trying to stop using it as much to combat this paranoia as anything. Better safe than sorry.

And when there are no reported reactions, that has nothing to do with lobbyist. It means no reactions were reported... and ALL physicians are obligated to report adverse reactions so that these things can be followed.

Anyway my whole point here is that there are natural alternatives for combating flu. Simplest.... eat and apple or an orange every day.... boost your natural defenses.

I have never had the flu, haven't been really sick in 10 years or more... a friend of mine takes the flu shot every year, eats at McDonald's and other fast food daily. and is sick all of the time.....
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Well, talk about unscientific studies... you seem to be the master. There is no evidence that vitamin C helps with the flu. And comparing two very different lives and saying that he gets sick b/c of the flu shot is absurd. I'm not saying there are drugs that cure everything. If you read here, you'll find I highly support a healthy lifestyle first and foremost. But I'm not about to let somebody come on here and spread paranoia ideas about flu shots to people without any hard scientific evidence without showing the other, more scientific side. Many moderators would just delete your post b/c it is not factually based. I happen to believe in open dialogue. But I don't take well to people accusing me of leaving out contradictory information when 1) clearly it isn't contradictory at all and 2) I've provided the site (and a reputable site) where I got the information. Especially when you come in here without evidence (mainly b/c there isn't any good evidence) to back up your claim.

And yes, God gave us everything we need in this world... including our brains.
 
I'm asthmatic and have had pneumonia too many times to not get it. Have gotten one each year for the last 6 years with good luck. I'm scheduled with my MD on Nov 5.
 
Ok first off let me apologize for sounding accusatory, That is not what I intended but that is how I wrote it. (it was 1 in the morning...)

You asked me to give you scientific evidence and I can't. You see this government does everything it can to discredit anything holistic. "If it is not a drug it does not work." is their motto. The main reason for this.... there is big money in pharmaceuticals, and most holistic remedies can be grown in your back yard for pennies. They do everything they can to discredit natural cures and remedies.

I can give you lots of examples. one of the biggest is aspirin. Aspirin is a drug created by Bayer. You all know this, what most people don't is that it is nothing more then a synthesized version of the extract of white willow bark. The difference, there are a lot of people that get bad side effects from Aspirin which is unnatural and artificial. With very rare exception anyone can take white willow bark with no side effects at all.

My point is that of course there is no hard scientific evidence to back me up, only millions of years of trial and error.

I guess we can just agree to disagree, but I'm just trying to make a point that there are alternatives out there.

the only reason i haven't provided you any links, is because most of my information comes from hard copy, books, and my doctor. (He is a holistic doctor and could probably quote you facts till the cows come home.) I haven't really needed to do much online research on it.

But here is just one of many resources I found in just a few minutes search. Most of what I saw in a few minutes of browsing the site is spot on.

Joshua
 
JoshuaGlynn said:
You asked me to give you scientific evidence and I can't. You see this government does everything it can to discredit anything holistic. "If it is not a drug it does not work." is their motto. The main reason for this.... there is big money in pharmaceuticals, and most holistic remedies can be grown in your back yard for pennies. They do everything they can to discredit natural cures and remedies.

I can give you lots of examples. one of the biggest is aspirin. Aspirin is a drug created by Bayer. You all know this, what most people don't is that it is nothing more then a synthesized version of the extract of white willow bark. The difference, there are a lot of people that get bad side effects from Aspirin which is unnatural and artificial. With very rare exception anyone can take white willow bark with no side effects at all.
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There is big money in pharmaceticals, but not because of vaccines. Actually, I don't think the main pharma companies are even in the business of selling vaccines, so I don't think your conspiracy theory is very convincing. Maybe there isn't any evidence because there isn't any.
 
RicanDAB said:
On the advice of my doctor, since I often work with kids, I'll be getting a flu shot. Can't hurt (no pun intended)!

How about you guys?
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Over fifty or work with seniors or kids, then get the flu shot. Most county service units will administer the shot for practically nothing, and sometimes schools have people in the system administer them gratis. I get it every year. I go in the next week or so.

No one, absolutely no one, is a bigger needle wimp than I am. I do not even flinch when I get the shot. For a few days the back of the arm is a bit sore. I have never had the flu, and that is the up side.
Shep+
 
hmmm... The Flu shot. My mom's a nurse who administers the flu shot at health clinics. Based on what she says, there is no way of getting the flu from the flu shot, however I do not believe this, since a dead version of the virus does enter your body, it is possible that it mahy not be "completely" dead, and if the moon is full and all the planets are aligned, then yes I do think there is a chance for you to get the flue from a flu shot-very minimal, but still existent.

But, is the flu shot even effective? According to my mom, the flu soht is only 60-70% effective in seniors and young children, it only "increases" your immunity, it does not provide complete immunity. So, depending on your intial strngth of your immune system, that determines how great of an immunity you will have to the virus.

However, the flu virus changes each year, and with the change of the virus, the people making the shot, must make an educated guess as to how the virus will change for the next season. In other words, no one even knows if the flu shot will be effective against the upcoming season's strain of the Flu.

Sooo... while the risk of any infection from the flu virus is extremely minimal-practically nonexistent- the strength of immunity that it provides the individual with is also not as good as a true "vaccine" should be, especially since the vaccine may offer the individual no protection whatsoever against the current season's strain of the virus.

As for me:

I'm allergic to chicken egg yolks, and the vaccine is grown in a chicken egg embryo, so in other words, I could potentially die if I have the vaccine, given my severe allergies to egg yolks.
 
Nope, I haven't been sick in over a year and have never taken the shot. My immune system works great!
 
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