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Arizona Bans Teachers Who Have Foreign Accents...

Is there anything wrong with this? All they're trying to do is take the focus off ethnic background, making everyone equal and excluding none.

As for wanting people who speak proper English to be teaching English... Well we can't have that, the whole world could come to an end! :rolleyes:

Yeah like anybody in Arizona speaks THE proper English....


Besides, wasn't the land originally belonging to Mexico, and stolen from them????

So please racist bigots, GTFO
 
If a person‘s accent is so thick that they literally cannot communicate properly with their students, than I absolutely think they should not be teaching. At the very least they should be expected to attend language assimilation classes to help smooth the accent to facilitate communication. After all, communication is fundamental to their ability to do their job.

The fact is, some people have accents that are so thick you literally can’t understand them.

Personally, I’ve always been very good with accents, but in high school I had a couple teachers whose accents were so thick it was very difficult to understand what they were saying. One of them was a math teacher, god I hated going to that class. More than a few people dropped it out of frustration, and I had to pay for a private tutor just so I could understand the instructions. It was really ridiculous.

But because of non-discrimination policies, nothing could be done about the guy. And I know more than a few people/parents complained. I mean, if he had wanted to, he could have taken a course in language assimilation to help drop the extremely thick accent, but he clearly had no interest. He knew he could not get fired, so fuck everybody else.

For the record, I’m also against non-discrimination policies forcing people to be hired for jobs that they are clearly not suited for. Like a 4’3 75lbs girl working on the Front Lines of the Police Force. What a joke. How about we hire a quadriplegic to coach swimming?
 
Hey I fucking blame Janet Napolitano for all this mess, I think there should be a law where if some person is elected for political office, they can't just call it quits when something better comes along.



I wish a law such as that would pass.
 
Although I do think it's a bit extreme to ban them from teaching, having an accent can affect small children who are learning the language. I've worked at a school where the pre-school and kindergarten teachers had accents and the students were mispronouncing many words such as "yellow" would come out "jello". As long as the teacher speaks well enough for the word t be properly pronounced I don't see a problem. It's sad these teachers are being singled out as this problem can occur anywhere, anyone who learns a second language never speaks it as well as someone who had that language as a first language.
If a child can say yellow before kindergarten then they have more problems than a hispanic teacher.
 
This law is based on the No Child Left Behind Act.

A Ted Kennedy creation, that stated English teachers needed to be "fluent" in English.

Think about it, would you want to take Spanish lessons from someone who wasn't "fluent" in Spanish?
 
Yeah like anybody in Arizona speaks THE proper English....


Besides, wasn't the land originally belonging to Mexico, and stolen from them????

So please racist bigots, GTFO

What's proper English thousands of miles from England's nearest shore?

If your asking, do most people in Arizona speak a dialect of English easily understood to most people they encounter, the answer is YES.

You're one to talk about bigotry..I guess you think as long as it's telling white Americans what scumbags they are, it's not bigotry.Maybe you never heard the story of the blessed union of the pot and the kettle..

One more thing.While I'm a history buff,I'm no history scholar.I'm sure the smart kids on JUB will correct me if I'm wrong about this. NO LAND was ''stolen'' from Mexico.After the Mexican- American War ended,General Santa Anna, in exchange for his life and safe passage,SURRENDERED the disputed lands of Texas,California,New Mexico,Arizona and I think,Colorado to the United States after his forces got their asses kicked..

In any case, nothing was stolen from anybody.There was a war.Both sides did what they could to win it,and Mexico lost.The leader of their military forces SURRENDERED the land.Choose your words a little more carefully next time.
 
Ahem

In 1829, due to the large influx of American immigrants, the Americans outnumbered Mexicans in the Texas territory. The Mexican government decided to bring back the property tax, increase tariffs on US shipped goods, and the prohibition of slavery. Many, if not all, settlers refused to obey, which led to Mexico closing Texas to additional immigration from the Americas. However, citizens from the southern states continued to flow into the Texas territory.

...enforce the Mexican laws in Texas, which led Stephen Austin calling Texas to arms and American immigrants in Texas declaring independence from Mexico in 1836...

The Mexican government had long warned the United States that annexation would mean war. Because the Mexican congress had refused to recognize Texan independence, Mexico saw Texas as a rebellious territory that would be retaken.

Southern Democrats, animated by a popular belief in Manifest Destiny, supported it in hopes of adding territory to the South and avoiding being outnumbered by the faster-growing North.

John O'Sullivan, the editor of the "Democratic Review", coined this phrase in its context, stating that it must be "Our manifest destiny to overspread the continent alloted by Providence for the free development of our yearly multiplying millions.

Joshua Giddings led a group of dissenters in Washington D.C. He called the war with Mexico "an aggressive, unholy, and unjust war," and voted against supplying soldiers and weapons.

Fellow Whig Abraham Lincoln contested the causes for the war and demanded to know exactly where Thornton had been attacked and American blood shed. "Show me the spot," he demanded.

Former President John Quincy Adams also expressed his belief that the war was primarily an effort to expand slavery in a speech he gave before the House on May 25, 1846.

President Ulysses S. Grant, who as a young army lieutenant had served in Mexico under General Taylor, recalled in his Memoirs, published in 1885, that:
“ For myself, I was bitterly opposed to the measure, and to this day regard the war, which resulted, as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory.

described the war as "Feculent, reeking Corruption" and "one of the darkest scenes in our history - a war forced upon our and the Mexican people by the high-handed usurpations of Pres't Polk in pursuit of territorial aggrandizement of the slave oligarchy."[

Get your fucking facts straight
 
So DiamondSkin - you're telling me that I as a teacher should be able to teach Spanish when I don't know Spanish?

If you took the time to read what the original article said, you would know that they, the Arizona Department of Education, wants their teachers who teach English to be able to speak it -- nothing more, nothing less.

Crazy nuts coming out of the woodwork.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575213883276427528.html
 
So DiamondSkin - you're telling me that I as a teacher should be able to teach Spanish when I don't know Spanish?

If you took the time to read what the original article said, you would know that they, the Arizona Department of Education, wants their teachers who teach English to be able to speak it -- nothing more, nothing less.

Crazy nuts coming out of the woodwork.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575213883276427528.html

No, he's telling you that if you grew up in Argentina, emigrated to the USA, got your degree, and then went to teach Spanish you should be allowed, heavy Argentinian accent and all.

Even in this country the English language is subjective; try and get somebody with a thick Southern drawl together with a Bostonite and see if they can understand a damn word each other says. If somebody doesn't have the proper language skills then they never would have gotten their Masters-PhD in the subject anyway.
 
I don't think this would have as big of a deal if it weren't for the fact of all the other bullshit they're doing as well. Even though they're trying to make this sound 'positive' as it could possibly be put, I don't trust any of it. To me there is nothing but tons of discrimination going on.

All that other bullshit is being misunderstood just like this. Too many people don't read the facts for themselves and rely on the "interpretation" of those that can't comprehend what they read.

Everybody is making a big deal out of these issues, but what they're crying about is all in their heads.
 
This law is based on the No Child Left Behind Act.

A Ted Kennedy creation, that stated English teachers needed to be "fluent" in English.

There is no question that English teachers should be fluent in English.

The issue is that "accented" is a subjective matter, and does not reflect fluency.
 
Stephen Fry, and Hugh Laurie making nonsense of the English language.

I should imagine that both actors would be denied employment in Arizona as teachers of the English language.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHQ2756cyD8[/ame]
 
Hugh Laurie and American ghetto slang:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYmrg3owTRE&feature=related[/ame]
 
Apparently the majority of English speaking jubbers were taught to read and write by those who didn't have a proper understanding of the written word. That would definitely explain the lack of reading comprehension.

On the topic of lack of reading comprehension, no one in this thread has advocated English being taught by those without a proper understanding of it.

Please review again, to see if you can improve your comprehension of the written word. Thank you.
 
^ Dear Lord, just read the article on Huffington...as someone who has heard Caucasians from the Southwest speak...they aren't exactly "grammatically correct" in language either.

And that is why most international countries don’t want to hire America English teachers. I know a lady who taught English internationally for most of her adult life. She just recently returned to Canada after living in Japan for 10 years. The #1 desired English teachers are British, followed by Canadian.

One of her friends was born and raised in Canada, and has several highly regarded teaching degrees. By all accounts the model of a desired international teacher. However, she married an American and moved to the US, including gaining citizenship. Because her passport says “America” she has been turned down for many international jobs.

According to people in various countries she has lived in, American accents sound aggressive and ugly. ;)

Personally, I enjoy several American accents, like the Southern drawls -- especially on a hunky bottom or butch top – but that’s just me.
 
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